[VS] Gaara vs. Jiraiya

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if jiraiya is able to go into SM, Gaara won't be able to deal with goemon
 

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Bro you're correct. Trollkage's oil mix had that particular effect on Garra's sand because of the mixture with water. However, while regular oil wouldn't hinder it completely useless, it will make it thick and chunky. Thus, making it slower and harder to move. Therefore, still giving Jman a slight edge.
 

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there is no mention of oil water in the viz, not to mention oil and water do not mix

nevertheless jiraiya's oil can be just as fluid as water [ ]
 

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I feel like people are forgetting Gaara is still a jinchuriki at this point and can transform into Shukaku which imo makes it high diff for J-man via Gamabunta and SM.
 

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I feel like people are forgetting Gaara is still a jinchuriki at this point and can transform into Shukaku which imo makes it high diff for J-man via Gamabunta and SM.

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Indeed he was.

Your theory was debunked and you stopped replying to me most likely because you had no counter. You forfeited that debate when you didn't reply to me. Mad or nah?
 

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Your theory was debunked and you stopped replying to me most likely because you had no counter. You forfeited that debate when you didn't reply to me. Mad or nah?

...Debate? Lol. If it makes you feel any better, I posted a 'counter' to your pitiful argument. Can't even be called a debate.
 

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I feel like people are forgetting Gaara is still a jinchuriki at this point and can transform into Shukaku which imo makes it high diff for J-man via Gamabunta and SM.

The mindset is IC, meaning Gaara wont go let Shukaku out. Bunta has already fought Shukaku.
 

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The mindset is IC, meaning Gaara wont go let Shukaku out. Bunta has already fought Shukaku.

Lol what the hell are you guys talking about?
Wasn't Shukaku sealed by Madara? ( )
 

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Lol what the hell are you guys talking about?
Wasn't Shukaku sealed by Madara? ( )

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Location: Gaara vs. Kimimaro
Restrictions: Ma and Pa Genjutsu, Ma can't summon all of Mount Myobokou
Intel: None
Starting distance: 50 m
Mindset: In Character

I'd say Jiraiya high diff. What do you think?

Gaara when he fought Deidara had Shukaku in him.
 

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Gaara when he fought Deidara had Shukaku in him.

This is the second time in a week that i don't read everything in the op and then look like a fool :shy:
Sorry for bothering.

OT: Gaara would never use Shukaku at that point. He had absolutely no control over him and that could work against him instead of helping (not being able to come up with strategies, counters or ways to defend himself better).
The only reason why he released it in Konoha was because it was part of the plan to bring it down.
Jiraiya still wins this. Bunta faired quite well by himself and part 1 Naruto pre-rasengan already defeated him. That says a lot if not everything.
SM isn't required nor does it bring anything to the table that Jiraiya needs to win this match.
 

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Bro you're correct. Trollkage's oil mix had that particular effect on Garra's sand because of the mixture with water. However, while regular oil wouldn't hinder it completely useless, it will make it thick and chunky. Thus, making it slower and harder to move. Therefore, still giving Jman a slight edge.
that slight edge isnt enough to hand j-man a good advantage,cuz gaara has controlled his sand with gold dust which made it 7x heavier,that barely slowed him down,not to mention the fact that gaara can produce landscape changing sand on a whim,and make more when needed. Joki boy's body was also comosed of oil too,yet that didnt affect the sand.


there is no mention of oil water in the viz, not to mention oil and water do not mix

nevertheless jiraiya's oil can be just as fluid as water [ ]

the viz called it slime i think,which is still dofferent from jiraiya's oil and still a product of oil and water. Well apparently oil and water mix in the mizukage's body.

Gaemon is oil propelled by wind ignited by fire,its more of a furnance than being similar to the mizukage's substance, when fire meets oil,the oil gets ignited. The oil of the mizukage wasnt flammable unlike j-man's oil.
And whats geomon to a sand tsunami used by kid gaara?,let alone part 2 gaara
 
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