[VS] Gaara vs. Hebi Sasuke

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Hebi Sasuke takes this. Summoning isn't restricted, so Hawk is summoned right off the bat to avoid sand grasps. If Deidara can evade it, then Hawk - given the bird's connotations - and the fact that it easily evaded a close ranged Futon attack from Danzo is proof enough of its speed. Gaara is not one to avoid any genjutsu, as it's not his fighting style, so it's a game changer here as well.

Sasuke didn't have Hawk in Hebi Form. He didn't even have the whole 'Taka' persona back then. A starting distance of 1000 meters is ridiculous as well. It gives Gaara an immense amount of time to convert the ground into minerals.
 

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Sasuke high diff. I will thoroughly debate this tomorrow.
 

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Sasuke didn't have Hawk in Hebi Form. He didn't even have the whole 'Taka' persona back then. A starting distance of 1000 meters is ridiculous as well. It gives Gaara an immense amount of time to convert the ground into minerals.

What are you basing this on? Obito, who gathered intel on Sasuke's every move once he left Orochimaru's hideout, didn't know anything about Hawk summon. When Karin did. It's pretty damn obvious that he had it before he left the hideout.

Unless you have a counter argument for this. 1000 meters should be nothing for a hawk.
 

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Gaara wins. Manda will get killed.
 

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I was kinda hoping for more argument from the gaara fans
 

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Hebi Sasuke will take this with around the same amount of difficulty he had against Deidara, i'll make an argument tonight if I can, otherwise tomorrow :l.

Would just like to point this out to people that Say Gaara wins that this is early Shippuden Gaara so he hasn't shown the intelligence feats he's shown in the war, or techs such as that sealing pyramid. While he has Shukaku he's likely not to use its power, similar to how he kept it suppressed when fighting Kimimaro and Deidara.
 
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First off i'm going to assume intel wise - they only know what they saw each other do at the chuunin exams.

Gaara is going to know that chidori can overpower his sand, even if he makes a sand dome, so he'll try to take flight to make Sasuke a non factor, Deidara tried to do the same and guess what? It didn't work so well.

Sasuke has begun trying to blitz Gaara, while Gaara is beginning to take flight and sending sand attacks at Sasuke.

At this point Sasuke is likely to try and hit him with Chidori true spear like he tried to do to Deidara, I would assume that it's going to miss but it may hit, let's just say Gaara floats high enough to avoid it. Gaara will now know the range of chidori true spear, so he'll try to stay right outside of it.

Sasuke can simply pull out CM2, fly upwards and go in for a chidori hit. BUT WAIT! Gaara has just grabbed his limbs with sand, what shall Sasuke do now? Chidori stream takes care of the sand, Gaara is then killed and Sasuke goes home with a bounty on his head from the sand village :l.

Let's say Sasuke approaches Gaara's flight differently. He gets trapped by the sand, Gaara sand burials him. But Sasuke sneak attacks Gaara with a chidori the same way he did it to Deidara because Sasuke has Gaara put in a sharingan genjutsu to trick him, and since Deidara supposedly has a better trained eye, getting Gaara is even easier.

Let's say Sasuke exhausts all of his options, there is only one left which is Kirin.

Sasuke will pretend to shoot fire dragon at Gaara, when he's actually trying to hit the atmosphere. Leading to Kirin which Gaara has 0 defense against the best lightning ninjutsu in the Narutoverse. If regular chidori broke Gaara's defense, Kirin is doing the same.

I tend to think Sasuke wins this due to the Sasuke vs Deidara fight, Sasuke handled someone who's a better long range specialist than Gaara.
 
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First off i'm going to assume intel wise - they only know what they saw each other do at the chuunin exams.

Gaara is going to know that chidori can overpower his sand, even if he makes a sand dome, so he'll try to take flight to make Sasuke a non factor, Deidara tried to do the same and guess what? It didn't work so well.

Sasuke has begun trying to blitz Gaara, while Gaara is beginning to take flight and sending sand attacks at Sasuke.

At this point Sasuke is likely to try and hit him with Chidori true spear like he tried to do to Deidara, I would assume that it's going to miss but it may hit, let's just say Gaara floats high enough to avoid it. Gaara will now know the range of chidori true spear, so he'll try to stay right outside of it.

Sasuke can simply pull out CM2, fly upwards and go in for a chidori hit. BUT WAIT! Gaara has just grabbed his limbs with sand, what shall Sasuke do now? Chidori stream takes care of the sand, Gaara is then killed and Sasuke goes home with a bounty on his head from the sand village :l.

Let's say Sasuke approaches Gaara's flight differently. He gets trapped by the sand, Gaara sand burials him. But Sasuke sneak attacks Gaara with a chidori the same way he did it to Deidara because Sasuke has Gaara put in a sharingan genjutsu to trick him, and since Deidara supposedly has a better trained eye, getting Gaara is even easier.

Let's say Sasuke exhausts all of his options, there is only one left which is Kirin.

Sasuke will pretend to shoot fire dragon at Gaara, when he's actually trying to hit the atmosphere. Leading to Kirin which Gaara has 0 defense against the best lightning ninjutsu in the Narutoverse. If regular chidori broke Gaara's defense, Kirin is doing the same.

I tend to think Sasuke wins this due to the Sasuke vs Deidara fight, Sasuke handled someone who's a better long range specialist than Gaara.

...how does Chidori Stream transmit through sand, which even blocked Enton?
 

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^ Sand has been shown to be weak against Raiton based attacks. Should be obvious.
 

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...how does Chidori Stream transmit through sand, which even blocked Enton?

gaara's sand is obviously weak to raiton

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notice sasuke needed raiton to get his hand out.

then theres hot butter

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Weak to Raiton or not, a Chidori Stream isn't traveling the length of a colum of sand before Sasuke is crushed. Not to mention that Chidori is a piercing attack.
 

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Weak to Raiton or not, a Chidori Stream isn't traveling the length of a colum of sand before Sasuke is crushed. Not to mention that Chidori is a piercing attack.

it would make the sand around sasuke disipate

like yamato's wood

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it would make the sand around sasuke disipate

like yamato's wood

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Not when Gaara's sand has tanked full impact blows from Ay in V2 and Enton, as well as Madara's Susano'o blade. Science disagrees as well.
 

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Hebi sasuke beat deidara

Deudara beat Gaara

So with completeky reasonable and consistent A<B<C Logic

Sasuke stomps


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your logic would be correct if Sasuke was a long ranged fighter
 

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gaara's sand is obviously weak to raiton

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notice sasuke needed raiton to get his hand out.

then theres hot butter

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raiton from ay didnt do much now did it..
 
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