Gaara vs EMS Sasuke

[shelke]

yea,some things go against physics,however,a giant etheral warrior can't be weightless,what makes you so sure it is weightless?,and i beeive the other points contered yours very well

Manga proof for this statement? I keep asking and yet there is none. No, you didn't counter anything that can't be further disproved.

 

[genii96]

Manga proof for this statement? I keep asking and yet there is none. No, you didn't counter anything that can't be further disproved.

rasengan has weight,ybb has weight,both are pure chakra,susanoo is pure chakra,it has weight. Where does it say it is weightless,infact which thing in naruto is weightless?.solid objects have weight,susaboo is a solid chakra entity,it has mass and is subject to gravity,w=mg

where does it say it is weightless?

Actually,i countered your raiton argument,proved that ento and ama utilize the same flames,albeit for different purposes,sasuke's arrows.

 

[shelke]

^ Nice reverse logic. Until there isn't a scan with you, I am not buying anything. Also, The Hawk can be encased within Sussano with Sasuke riding it as he did with Itachi.

You proved nothing, actually as both flames have different uses and properties. Arrow point was also not a proof as in all cases, Sasuke's arrows have always gone clean through their targets.

 

[genii96]

^ Nice reverse logic. Until there isn't a scan with you, I am not buying anything. Also, The Hawk can be encased within Sussano with Sasuke riding it as he did with Itachi.

You proved nothing, actually as both flames have different uses and properties. Arrow point was also not a proof as in all cases, Sasuke's arrows have always gone clean through their targets.

you talk about scans where does it say it is weightless?,nothing in naruto is weightless,why should you assume susanoo is any different?,ive told you that rasengan,pure chakra has weight,then why should susanoo, a jutsu also of pure chakra weightless?.

That hawk is featless,and susanoo still has the hole underneath,and sasuke on susanoo on a hawk makes for an easy target for a sand prison and then a giant sand burial. Show me feats of the hawk to say it can dodge gaara's sand.

Enton manipulates the flames of amaterasu,only difference is the shape manipulation as shown by the manga,so both flames are the same,just with different intents.

An arrow got stuck in one pillar,gaara makes a sand wall,it gets stuck,simple as that.

 

[shelke]

^ This is reverse logic. It doesn't say this, so I am right. You aren't, pal. Until the manga explicitly states it, I am not buying any of it. Did you see any dents in the ground with Madara's PS, since that must weight about 20,000 tons considering its huge size? I didn't. This reserve logic is a poor take on the debate and not convincing at all.

Sasuke can take to air and he can't, there is no compulsion on either cases. If that was so, then why didn't gaara pull Madara out of Sussano himself? Wait, he can't otherwise he would've done so or harmed him as you suggest.

No. Amatersu works best when the eye is focused. Hachibi's plight and helplessness is one clear example. Sure, amatersu won't completely go through due to the volume of sand, but it's surely keep eating through it with an alarming rate as the eye would be focused. It'll only be a matter of time before Gaara's chakra in the sand is lost and he won't be able to control all of it.

Do you even read the manga? The arrow was not aimed at the pillar, but DSM Kabuto, and it went clean through.

 

[genii96]

^ This is reverse logic. It doesn't say this, so I am right. You aren't, pal. Until the manga explicitly states it, I am not buying any of it. Did you see any dents in the ground with Madara's PS, since that must weight about 20,000 tons considering its huge size? I didn't. This reserve logic is a poor take on the debate and not convincing at all.

Sasuke can take to air and he can't, there is no compulsion on either cases. If that was so, then why didn't gaara pull Madara out of Sussano himself? Wait, he can't otherwise he would've done so or harmed him as you suggest.

No. Amatersu works best when the eye is focused. Hachibi's plight and helplessness is one clear example. Sure, amatersu won't completely go through due to the volume of sand, but it's surely keep eating through it with an alarming rate as the eye would be focused. It'll only be a matter of time before Gaara's chakra in the sand is lost and he won't be able to control all of it.

Do you even read the manga? The arrow was not aimed at the pillar, but DSM Kabuto, and it went clean through.

madara's susaoo can walk,how can it do that if it is weightless?,the manga never said susanoo is weightless. You are the one using reverse logic.

Sasuke's hawk has or feats or showings,madara' susanoo had legs,unlike sasuke which has an underside,and why compare sasuke to madara?.

So sasuke is gonna focus on burning a wall of sand ad ignore the fact that gaara could bury him,attack him from below or trap him in a sand dome from behind,you think he would have time to focus or burn through heaps of sand,he maybe able to burn through normal sand,not gaara's chakra infused sand,and gaara could easily use to ama sand to attack sasuke,it's not like he cant move the burning sand is it?

He fired at kabuto,he dodged it hit a pillar,and stopped,a wall of sand is gonna stop an arrow,or 2 at most,unlss you think his arrow can go through 2 walls of sand without loosing momentum.

 

[shelke]

- ^ Man, it's like banging your head against a brick wall; it actually hurts. I ask a question and you create another pointless answer. Did you or did you not, see dents under PS's feet? Just answer the damn question.

- Why make stuff up?

- Read the post again.

- And Sasuke is just going to fire a single arrow and stand there like a jackass?

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

^ This is reverse logic. It doesn't say this, so I am right. You aren't, pal. Until the manga explicitly states it, I am not buying any of it. Did you see any dents in the ground with Madara's PS, since that must weight about 20,000 tons considering its huge size? I didn't. This reserve logic is a poor take on the debate and not convincing at all.

Sasuke can take to air and he can't, there is no compulsion on either cases. If that was so, then why didn't gaara pull Madara out of Sussano himself? Wait, he can't otherwise he would've done so or harmed him as you suggest.

No. Amatersu works best when the eye is focused. Hachibi's plight and helplessness is one clear example. Sure, amatersu won't completely go through due to the volume of sand, but it's surely keep eating through it with an alarming rate as the eye would be focused. It'll only be a matter of time before Gaara's chakra in the sand is lost and he won't be able to control all of it.

Do you even read the manga? The arrow was not aimed at the pillar, but DSM Kabuto, and it went clean through.

Susano has weight, that is why kabuto said that itachi became slow because he brought out susanoo and tried to save sasuke from the cave-attack, if susano is weightless then can you explain why the users such as sasuke and itachi can't use speed when susano is activated.

 

[kajiko]

mass x gravity equates weight,not just mass,thats what i am trying to say,obvioulsy you think you know better than the formular itself. Where does it say it is weightless?,rasengan is made of pure chakra it isnt weightless,tbb as well isnt weightless,susanoo isnt weightless as well. It slows down mobility of the perdon inside,that also points towards it's weight.

It also even makes a much bigger target to hit,sasuke isnt escaping this

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you completely skipped my point numbnutts. sussanoo it's weightless because it is the magical world of masashi kishimoto, therefore wether it defys physics or not.

 

[genii96]

- ^ Man, it's like banging your head against a brick wall; it actually hurts. I ask a question and you create another pointless answer. Did you or did you not, see dents under PS's feet? Just answer the damn question.

- Why make stuff up?

- Read the post again.

- And Sasuke is just going to fire a single arrow and stand there like a jackass?

so,you think that if perfect susanoo stands on a hawk,the hawk would not feel any weight from the susanoo?,you talk abt giving pointless answers,where does it say it is weightless?,if rasengan,also a pure chakra move has weight,why wont susanoo?,unless there is some mange statement saying it is weighless,then like all other things in naruto,it has weight.

-what feats does the hawk have?,
-i did,sasuke isnt gonna focus his eye on one pile of sand when he has an entire dessert to worry about,and gaara can control sand without needong to put his chakra in it

- gaara attacks and defends at the same time,sasuke shoots an arrow,a wall of samd blocks it and a sand prison comes behind him,what can he do?

you completely skipped my point numbnutts. sussanoo it's weightless because it is the magical world of masashi kishimoto, therefore wether it defys physics or not.

where does it say it is weightless?,why do susanoo users seem slow when in their susanoo?

 

[kajiko]

so,you think that if perfect susanoo stands on a hawk,the hawk would not feel any weight from the susanoo?,you talk abt giving pointless answers,where does it say it is weightless?,if rasengan,also a pure chakra move has weight,why wont susanoo?,unless there is some mange statement saying it is weighless,then like all other things in naruto,it has weight.

-what feats does the hawk have?,
-i did,sasuke isnt gonna focus his eye on one pile of sand when he has an entire dessert to worry about,and gaara can control sand without needong to put his chakra in it

- gaara attacks and defends at the same time,sasuke shoots an arrow,a wall of samd blocks it and a sand prison comes behind him,what can he do?



where does it say it is weightless?,why do susanoo users seem slow when in their susanoo?

Well due just as any good MS spam artist would know it takes an ass load of chakra to use.

 

[shelke]

Susano has weight, that is why kabuto said that itachi became slow because he brought out susanoo and tried to save sasuke from the cave-attack, if susano is weightless then can you explain why the users such as sasuke and itachi can't use speed when susano is activated.

That could be due to chakra control. Sussano uses both eyes and hence requires quite a bit of concentration. For example PS is just a stabilized form of CS. Sussano may have weight, but tons? I seriously doubt that.

so,you think that if perfect susanoo stands on a hawk,the hawk would not feel any weight from the susanoo?,you talk abt giving pointless answers,where does it say it is weightless?,if rasengan,also a pure chakra move has weight,why wont susanoo?,unless there is some mange statement saying it is weighless,then like all other things in naruto,it has weight.

-what feats does the hawk have?,
-i did,sasuke isnt gonna focus his eye on one pile of sand when he has an entire dessert to worry about,and gaara can control sand without needong to put his chakra in it

- gaara attacks and defends at the same time,sasuke shoots an arrow,a wall of samd blocks it and a sand prison comes behind him,what can he do?

Answer my question, or don't quote me.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Sasuke low dif

 

[genii96]

That could be due to chakra control. Sussano uses both eyes and hence requires quite a bit of concentration. For example PS is just a stabilized form of CS. Sussano may have weight, but tons? I seriously doubt that.[/b ]



Answer my question, or don't quote me.

@ bolded,i never said it weight tons,i said it's weight,coupled with sasuke's own woukd make the bird fly slower and thus easier to catch and that susanoo wasnt weightless.

 

[shelke]

^ Why do you think Sasuke even needs to be in CS to counter Gaara's attacks? Gaara couldn't scratch him along with 4 other jounins in his incomplete sussano. Also, Hawk is a pretty big bird, it can be housed INSIDE sussano. Get the point? Like he did with Itachi. Sasuke can stand over the bird and shelter it within sussano.

Even if hypothetically speaking, it doesn't work, now why would he even want to take to air?

 

[genii96]

^ Why do you think Sasuke even needs to be in CS to counter Gaara's attacks? Gaara couldn't scratch him along with 4 other jounins in his incomplete sussano. Also, Hawk is a pretty big bird, it can be housed INSIDE sussano. Get the point? Like he did with Itachi. Sasuke can stand over the bird and shelter it within sussano.

Even if hypothetically speaking, it doesn't work, now why would he even want to take to air?

gaara used sand drizzle,he didnt even use a top attack,and remember he wasnt aiming for the incomplete version,he was aiming for the ribcage,the rincage was their intended target,but incomplete susanoo popped up to tank the attacks. He already proved he could pin down an incomplete susanoo of madara and restrict it's movement.his sand proved strong enough to take 5 CS's at once and protect him while he wasnt looking,so sasuke needs his CS if he wants to last a minute.

Okay,first of all that hawk has no feats to say it can outrun the sand,even if he houses the hawk in his susanoo

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they are not escaping that.

Sasuke needs to get in the air,because his susanoo has a hole underneath and he is stading on a dessert,full of sand,get the point
gaara could easily do this right underneath him at the start of the match

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how do you even see sasuke winning here?

 

[Champ]

Kirin obliterates Gaara

 

[fourth kazekage]

Location,and manga intel means gaara wins this low-mid diff. Sasuke has no chance

 

[Champ]

Genii back on his alt

 

[shelke]

@Genji Sasuke's incomplete Sussano was a much better defense than Gaara's. The team pulled Madara out of an incomplete sussano to expose him to Naruto's sage arts, and Gaara himself said that Naruto's attack would be virtually useless against it. This means, Gaara needs extremely high level attacks to even scratch CS, let alone the one inside Kagatsuchi. Just accpet it, Gaara couldn't even scratch Sasuke along with four other jouins and if I include A and his jounins it makes three more people. He couldn't hurt him then, but now he does?

I really don't understand your relentlessness. Sasuke is tiers above Gaara, and the manga proves it. Also if Gaara can reach Madara from under sussano, why the hell did he pull him out of it with Onoki's help? This doesn't make any sense to me. And Sussano has a hole underneath it? Any proof?