Gaara vs EMS Sasuke

[the dark king]

I think its not fair since we havent seen much of ems sasuke we dont know his full potential

 

[genii96]

Ignore him. He can't accept his favorite character can loose.

good advice,he is really annoying

I think its not fair since we havent seen much of ems sasuke we dont know his full potential

ems=ms+no blindness and a few increase in power.

Sasuke's ems allows him to use his ms for an extended period of time without any eye problems and less chakra drain,there is nothing more it adds to him. Dont know why everyone keeps hoping for anything new

 

[Champ]

he shoots it not at the sky,he shoots it into the atmosphere to make the water vapour in the atmosphere rise as it is heated and then it goes upwards,and then cools and forms clouds,in a dessert,there is no water vapour,therefore no thuder clouds,there fore no lightening,therefore no kirin. Dont know why it is so hard for you to grasp,even the ones for sasuke know this. When did deidara dodge sasuke?,arent you supposed to be a sasuke fan?,yet you dont watch his fights?,go read the fight between them and see for youself. Kimimaro got stopped by sand armour,that part is obvious. The golem was cracked,which means if there was no sand,then the golem would be destroyed,it was a combo move,deal with it. Onoki lightening one meteor,the second was not lightened,deal with it.

You still sate things without proof. I actually took the time to do some research and not only did it say rainfalls in the desert their has also been a thunderstorm,

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. You have no proof Deidara dodged Sasuke, keep makin stuff up. Kimimaro didn't get stopped he would've killed Gaara if it wasn't for his illness. Yes meaning the magamata got through Gaara sand easy. Kirin obliterates Gaara, deal with it.

 

[genii96]

You still sate things without proof. I actually took the time to do some research and not only did it say rainfalls in the desert their has also been a thunderstorm,

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. You have no proof Deidara dodged Sasuke, keep makin stuff up. Kimimaro didn't get stopped he would've killed Gaara if it wasn't for his illness. Yes meaning the magamata got through Gaara sand easy. Kirin obliterates Gaara, deal with it.

:sigh:,thunder cloud s are formed when the water vapour in the air rises and cools in the atmosphere,a dessert has very little water vapour if any,the amount needed for a jutsu like kirin is massive as evidenced by the rainfall that happened. The water vapour in a dessert will not allow any jutsu such as kirin to take place,plus the place is already heated up.rainfalls happen once in a while in a dessert,and some dont even get any,the amount of lightening needed to accumulate fo form kirin is a lot,the amount of thunder clouds that form?,not enough,infact,NOWHERE meanr enough. This is the last time i am saying this,everyone knows kirin wont work,even sasuke supporters and fanboys know it.

If sasuke faces gaara in a dessert,he gets wiped out by the scans i posted which you obviously have no argment or answer to,and gaara can form those way faster than kirin can be formed in a dessert. Gaara bends sasuke over in a dessert,deal with it,kirin couldnt kill a guy inside incomplete susanoo,gaara blocked a nuke,putting all your hopes on a jutsu that wont work and a jutsu that even if it worked will be stopped by air sand protective wall is hopless. I'll take princess' advice,gaara clearly wins this

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

*didn't read whole thread just first post*

I could see Gaara winning if his sand can pull sasuke out of sussanoo like it did with madara (but that was assisted by Oonoki)

but if not then I think between the spam of Sus and Amaterasu and possibly Genjutsu (if gaara doesn't hide behind sand and use 3rd eye to keep track of him) he would win out after a long fight

 

[Champ]

:sigh:,thunder cloud s are formed when the water vapour in the air rises and cools in the atmosphere,a dessert has very little water vapour if any,the amount needed for a jutsu like kirin is massive as evidenced by the rainfall that happened. The water vapour in a dessert will not allow any jutsu such as kirin to take place,plus the place is already heated up.rainfalls happen once in a while in a dessert,and some dont even get any,the amount of lightening needed to accumulate fo form kirin is a lot,the amount of thunder clouds that form?,not enough,infact,NOWHERE meanr enough. This is the last time i am saying this,everyone knows kirin wont work,even sasuke supporters and fanboys know it.

If sasuke faces gaara in a dessert,he gets wiped out by the scans i posted which you obviously have no argment or answer to,and gaara can form those way faster than kirin can be formed in a dessert. Gaara bends sasuke over in a dessert,deal with it,kirin couldnt kill a guy inside incomplete susanoo,gaara blocked a nuke,putting all your hopes on a jutsu that wont work and a jutsu that even if it worked will be stopped by air sand protective wall is hopless. I'll take princess' advice,gaara clearly wins this

I already proved it does rain in the desert and their has also been a lightning storm before, learn to read. Kirin > Gaara. When you post manga scans then I'll counter, but you never post any manga scans. In the desert Gaara could be killed Arrows, Kirin, or sliced in half by Chidori shape spear. Gaara best attack sand Tsunami, gets countered by Sasuke hawk any sand arm attack and be dodge. Gaara sand couldn't even stop Chidori he gets obliterated by Kirin deal with it.

 

[shelke]

1) it is chakra solidified,it interacts with the physical environment,it can hit and can be hit. A tbb is chakra too and nothing else,but it has weight,susanoo is the same,and it also makes a bigger target to attack,tell me how sasuke would escape the sand dome.

2)that lgithenng isnt gaara's weakness,and chidori or it's variants are useless.

3)whether i am right or wrong,sand sphere renders amaterasu useless,and sasuke wont have time to focus on hitting gaara when gaara drops pyramids on his head

4)actually it is,he fired at kabuto,it hit a pillar and stopped,gaara would simply make a wall of sand which is much stronger than a pillar,an arrow is not going to bother gaara in a dessert.

Let me ask you something,do you beleive kirin(lightening) can be formed in a dessert?

1: I said give me proof, NOT assumptions. Where in the manga is it said that it weighs tons? Going by your logic, any chakra based attack should weigh tons as it causes physical damage.

2: Why are they useless?

3: Another assumption, so you're obviously making more stuff up.

4: Prove it that it won't go through a wall of sand, when Arrows have gone clean through every single target Sasuke has used them on?

 

[GiantShuriken]

Sasuke wounded Gaara with a regular chidori in part 1. Now with his giant chidori blades that he uses to shoot people out of the sky(see Deidara fight), he will obliterate Gaara no matter how much defense he uses.

 

[genii96]

I already proved it does rain in the desert and their has also been a lightning storm before, learn to read. Kirin > Gaara. When you post manga scans then I'll counter, but you never post any manga scans. In the desert Gaara could be killed Arrows, Kirin, or sliced in half by Chidori shape spear. Gaara best attack sand Tsunami, gets countered by Sasuke hawk any sand arm attack and be dodge. Gaara sand couldn't even stop Chidori he gets obliterated by Kirin deal with it.

your little research proved nothing,lightening comes from culminous clouds formed from updrafts of heated moisture in the air,in the dessert,the amount of a moisture is far too small for a jutsu of kirin,even if sasuke miraculously makes kirin,it would be almost a joke version of the one used against itachi.that is assuming he actually makes it,which would even take far more time to form that in a normal environment due to the dryness and heat already present.

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deidara dodged sasuke,completely.

I'd so love to see sasuke dodge this

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1: I said give me proof, NOT assumptions. Where in the manga is it said that it weighs tons? Going by your logic, any chakra based attack should weigh tons as it causes physical damage.

2: Why are they useless?

3: Another assumption, so you're obviously making more stuff up.

4: Prove it that it won't go through a wall of sand, when Arrows have gone clean through every single target Sasuke has used them on?

1) i did,susanoo is pure chakra,so is a tbb,but it has weight,which is why naruto can't use the full sized one without being in full bijuu mode,susanoo reduces mobility of the user,because of it's weight,r u trying to say that a massive etheral being made by the users have no weight?,whatever has mass and is subject to gravity has weight,susanoo obviously has mass since it can punch stuff,and is subject to gravity,therfore it has weight.i didnt say it weight tons,i said it had weight due to it's size.

2)because gaara has a dessert of sand compared to the raiton techs sasuke can use?

3)flames already cudnt burn through his sand,sand sphere means that sand covering him 360 degrees on all sides,sand armour means if gaara is somehow hit,he just sheds his sand armour off and replaces it,hence ama is useless

4) i'd like to see an arrow go through 2-3 walls of above steel sand at once and still have the piercing momentum to piercs sand sphere,it got stuck in a pillar,it wont get past 2 sand walls.

Sasuke wounded Gaara with a regular chidori in part 1. Now with his giant chidori blades that he uses to shoot people out of the sky(see Deidara fight), he will obliterate Gaara no matter how much defense he uses.

chidori spear?sand arm hits sasuke first,chidori spear has a 5m limit,sasuke is in a dessert,sand arms can come from anywhere he wants. Gaara let sasuke hit him,cuz he was too prideful in his defence,gaara would drop 6 pyramids on his head before letting him come 5m close

 

[Amaterasuice]

It's basically who can hit the other first.

I wonder, susanoo arrow or sand coffin? Eh. I'll just say Sasuke...probably

 

[Champ]

your little research proved nothing,lightening comes from culminous clouds formed from updrafts of heated moisture in the air,in the dessert,the amount of a moisture is far too small for a jutsu of kirin,even if sasuke miraculously makes kirin,it would be almost a joke version of the one used against itachi.that is assuming he actually makes it,which would even take far more time to form that in a normal environment due to the dryness and heat already present.

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deidara dodged sasuke,completely.

I'd so love to see sasuke dodge this

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First you said it never rains in the desert, you were proven wrong from yo fav source of info wiki, then I provide sources from people who have actually been to the desert and studied these thing and they have witness a thunder storm in the desert before. So yo opinion on that matter means nothin. Im proud of you for finally using manga scans for the first time on this site, but you are wrong Sasuke attacked Obito first which gave Deidara time to get out the way. Sasuke never wanted to kill Deidara he wanted info on Itachi which the scans you provided confirms this.

Good Bye Gaara

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[Bogard]

If they fight in the desert under those circumstances, i'm incline to say that Gaara would win with low difficulty

 

[Lightbringer]

Sasuke wins easily

 

[genii96]

First you said it never rains in the desert, you were proven wrong from yo fav source of info wiki, then I provide sources from people who have actually been to the desert and studied these thing and they have witness a thunder storm in the desert before. So yo opinion on that matter means nothin. Im proud of you for finally using manga scans for the first time on this site, but you are wrong Sasuke attacked Obito first which gave Deidara time to get out the way. Sasuke never wanted to kill Deidara he wanted info on Itachi which the scans you provided confirms this.

Good Bye Gaara

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wiki isnt my favt source,i use narutopedia,it is quite different from the wikipedia on the naruto characters,this is the naruto wikia,where any wrong info is deleted

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this is the naruto wikipedia,which you use as proof,and can easily be changed

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wikipedia is the one you used for your little research right?,

I never said rain didnt fall in all deserts,some deserts recieve rain once in a while,while others do not receive at all,there is very little moisture in the desert

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you can clearly see that in a desert,the rain is only a bit,and it happens yearly,and it takes years before any serious rainfall can happen,sasuke dosent have years,and unlike your wikipedia,which can be changed easily without any problems,mine is not from wikipedia.
If you read here,you can clearly see the reason for drastic temperature changes are bcos of the gact that the air is so dry

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read here and scroll down to "ecological notes",if you read, you will see that there are very few clouds in the desert due to the dry air of the desert

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When sasuke attacked them you can clearly see the sword pattern,it would have hit deidara who was infront of tobi IIRC if he didnt jump out,so he dodged it.

Here is manga proof on how fast gaara raises his sand,he raises his arms

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and then instantly this happens

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doing that under sasuke's susanoo means dead sasuke.

And this is how fast giant sand arms can formhttp://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/248/13

look at the size and there are 2 of them

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look here,you can clearly see that gaara went into his sand sphere,now it took one panel for gaara to do a sand prison,behind deidara without even knowing,infact by the time he noticed,he was halfway through

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here,you can clearly see gaara's gourd sand,catching deidara the first time it attacks easilyhttp://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/248/18,and deidara was flying,that shows just how fast it is.

Little moisture in the air,little rainfall,little clouds,yup,kirin is useless. Sasuke can't counter anything above

 

[Champ]

wiki isnt my favt source,i use narutopedia,it is quite different from the wikipedia on the naruto characters,this is the naruto wikia,where any wrong info is deleted

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this is the naruto wikipedia,which you use as proof,and can easily be changed

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wikipedia is the one you used for your little research right?,

I never said rain didnt fall in all deserts,some deserts recieve rain once in a while,while others do not receive at all,there is very little moisture in the desert

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you can clearly see that in a desert,the rain is only a bit,and it happens yearly,and it takes years before any serious rainfall can happen,sasuke dosent have years,and unlike your wikipedia,which can be changed easily without any problems,mine is not from wikipedia.
If you read here,you can clearly see the reason for drastic temperature changes are bcos of the gact that the air is so dry

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read here and scroll down to "ecological notes",if you read, you will see that there are very few clouds in the desert due to the dry air of the desert

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When sasuke attacked them you can clearly see the sword pattern,it would have hit deidara who was infront of tobi IIRC if he didnt jump out,so he dodged it.

Here is manga proof on how fast gaara raises his sand,he raises his arms

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and then instantly this happens

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doing that under sasuke's susanoo means dead sasuke.

And this is how fast giant sand arms can formhttp://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/248/13

look at the size and there are 2 of them

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look here,you can clearly see that gaara went into his sand sphere,now it took one panel for gaara to do a sand prison,behind deidara without even knowing,infact by the time he noticed,he was halfway through

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here,you can clearly see gaara's gourd sand,catching deidara the first time it attacks easilyhttp://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/248/18,and deidara was flying,that shows just how fast it is.

Little moisture in the air,little rainfall,little clouds,yup,kirin is useless. Sasuke can't counter anything above

I haven't quoted anything from Narutopedia that's all you use instead of relying on the manga. Yo source actually helped me out it says ''there can be sudden, heavy rains that cause flooding. '' haha which is more than enough for Kirin if there's a flood. Thank you for addin to the fact Gaara gets obliterated by Kirin. Sasuke attacked Obito first, cause he wanted info on Itachi from Deidara if he wanted to kill him he wanted attacked him first. Nothing will happen under Sasuke Susano'o since Gaara can't get in without Onoki's help. The link you post shows Deidara & Gaara in the sky, op never said Gaara would start in the air. I can say Sasuke starts on his Hawk with Kirin ready. Though Deidera didn't try to kill Gaara, he had no jutsu that could pierce through Gaara sand, Sasukes does. If they start out and Sasuke sees him it will be the same as when he reunited with Kakashi.

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Kakashi who is also faster than Gaara says he would've been killed if not for Kamui cause the Arrows were too fast. Gaara can't dodge them and he surely can't attack Sasuke while tryin to defend himself. With EMS draining minimum chakra from Sasuke he'll spam multiple Arrows which will kill Gaara.

 

[Tendou00]

Gaara mid dif.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Gaara * mid dif.

* high diff

 

[genii96]

I haven't quoted anything from Narutopedia that's all you use instead of relying on the manga. Yo source actually helped me out it says ''there can be sudden, heavy rains that cause flooding. '' haha which is more than enough for Kirin if there's a flood. Thank you for addin to the fact Gaara gets obliterated by Kirin. Sasuke attacked Obito first, cause he wanted info on Itachi from Deidara if he wanted to kill him he wanted attacked him first. Nothing will happen under Sasuke Susano'o since Gaara can't get in without Onoki's help. The link you post shows Deidara & Gaara in the sky, op never said Gaara would start in the air. I can say Sasuke starts on his Hawk with Kirin ready. Though Deidera didn't try to kill Gaara, he had no jutsu that could pierce through Gaara sand, Sasukes does. If they start out and Sasuke sees him it will be the same as when he reunited with Kakashi.

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Kakashi who is also faster than Gaara says he would've been killed if not for Kamui cause the Arrows were too fast. Gaara can't dodge them and he surely can't attack Sasuke while tryin to defend himself. With EMS draining minimum chakra from Sasuke he'll spam multiple Arrows which will kill Gaara.

if you actually read the whole thing,instead of picking out the phrase like a smartass,you'l see that the heavy rainfall happens after years of no rainfall,unless you think sasuke has years or that heavy rainfall will happen,and i have shown you that the clouds in a desert are very small,the scans also clearly states that normal rainfall happens yearly,so sudden heavy rainfalls that cause floods would take even more time than that. You keep putting all your hopes on kirin,lets see how long it takes to hit,
this is where sasuke fired his flames

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this is where the kirin hit

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nearly a full chapter for kirin to be activated,and this is outside a dessert.that last one shows that kirin is not a penetrative type,but an explosive type,
this is how when deidara's bomb was abt to explosde,you can clearl see no sand shield

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this is where it explodes

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and then,

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took one panel to form that shield,kirin took nearly a full chapter,outside a desert LOL. Kirin is truly useless.





All the scans i showed took one or two panels to setup,

All the scans i showed and your only rebutal is that gaara was flying?pathetic,he can do that flying or on the ground,even a 2 year old can see that.if gaara reacted to a rising forest,and instant explosions,he can react to a damn arrow,sasuke has no answer to any of those scans i posted at all.you aske for manga scans,i showed you them,and you tell me gaara was in the air so it dosent count?LOL,if you dont have any answer,then thats fine. Kakashi faster than gaara's sand?,thats a laugh. Arrows are no problem,sasuke with his susanoo gets one paneled. Gaara raised hundreds of tons of sand from the floor to himself several kilometres in the air in one panel LOL.

 

[the dark king]

gaara high diff

 

[genii96]

* high diff

mid diff at most.
What happens if gaara does this underneath sasuke?

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