Gaara vs EMS Sasuke

[Fanta]

I say Sasuke mid-high diff

Gaara's sand can't really do anything on Susanoo.. but getting to Gaara is going to be hard since he would be protected alot with the sand from the desert

 

[genii96]

^ You should halt in your mental musings and try and read the manga carefully. Your lack of grasp is astounding. Madara's Chakra is more sinister than Kurama's, and Sasuke's Chakra is even more powerful than Madara's:

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Second is your persistence at sticking to your own self-made, pointlessness, which is becoming quite tedious now. What you are saying is mere assumption. Is there ANY scan to put weight on your argumentation in regards to Sussano defense? There isn't, so stop making stuff up. You are reducing your own points to a completely worthless state by belching this tripe. There isn't anything to support your logic, so lay off, for the love of God.

- No, you should. He said 'around here' NOT 'around you Gaara'. It's simple English, nothing else. Gaara pulled him out only after getting his sand lightened by Onoki.

- Since you have no point for your Gaara and are just cornered in now, hence the reason for these repeated baseless claims. The scans prove you wrong, you have been making stuff up right from the start, and there are no scans to prove your own logic other than 'should bes could bes' assertions on your part as a repeatedly hammered and rather weak argument.

- Who am I fooling? Other that how and why, where is your proof? Garra loses, get over yourself.

u should try to read?,you need glasses.
Kurama said'eyes with such power and chakra even more siniter than my own,unlike a certain madara uchiha',if you actually read,kurama simply said that sasuke's chakra was more sinister than his own,just like madara's chakra is,nothing about power. Madara's fireball needed several water walls to extinguish,it is more powerful than sasuke's own by far,sasuke has never been stated to posses powerful chakra,just dark and cold chakra as karin noted,while madara was noted to posses chakra powerful even amongst the uchiha clan. So your point is useless.

since you apparently are full of fail logics,why dont you answer these for a change

1) did onoki make gaara's sand heavy again or not?where is the manga page showing that he made it heavy again?

2) is there any magic that stops gaara from using the sand that sasuke is stepping on to attack him?.yes or no?

3) is there anything stopping gaara from doing this right under sasuke?

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using the sand under him,and how wil sasuke survive that?

4) is there anything that stops gaara from forming this right under sasuke?

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how would sasuke counter that?

If you cant answer these questions with reasnable answers,then there is no point going on. Why dont you get over youself,i see you still cant counter the scans,how ridiculous.

 

[shelke]

^ Uchihas clan are known to have powerful chakra and Sasuke has high chakra reserves since childhood:

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- Now what on earth would a sinister chakra even imply for a Biju other than 'powerful' chakra? You are just desperately grasping at straws and it's hilarious. That fire Jutsu point means little to nothing as Sasuke has his own arsenal of Lightening techniques that include A and S rank variants. Does Madara have that? It's all a matter of proficiency in areas. Get it through your head.

- Nice reverse logic. Onoki lightened the sand, and that's that. Keep throwing more ill-conceived nonsense in my face. I'll just laugh it off. He didn't pull him out without Onoki's help. Stop arguing and just accept it. That scan pretty much refutes all your best-attempted argumentation on Sussano.

- The rest of your points can just be ignored.

 

[shelke]

Forgot to add that the Jutsu Onoki used to lighten his sand is called: Doton Keijungan No Jutsu and it lightens the earth/sand. It's EVEN mentioned in the link I posted, but here it's again:

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I guess a pair of nice glasses are in order.

 

[genii96]

^ Uchihas clan are known to have powerful chakra and Sasuke has high chakra reserves since childhood:

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- Now what on earth would a sinister chakra even imply for a Biju other than 'powerful' chakra? You are just desperately grasping at straws and it's hilarious. That fire Jutsu point means little to nothing as Sasuke has his own arsenal of Lightening techniques that include A and S rank variants. Does Madara have that? It's all a matter of proficiency in areas. Get it through your head.

- Nice reverse logic. Onoki lightened the sand, and that's that. Keep throwing more ill-conceived nonsense in my face. I'll just laugh it off. He didn't pull him out without Onoki's help. Stop arguing and just accept it. That scan pretty much refutes all your best-attempted argumentation on Sussano.

- The rest of your points can just be ignored.

1)yes,all uchihas have powerful chalkar,but madara's own was powerful even among the uchihas.siinister means eveil you dumbass,his chakra had more evil than kurama,not power,to think that sasulke has more powerful chakra than kurama..my goodness. Madara dosent use raiton,so using chidori is a foolish point,you want to compare thwir chakra power?then use what they both have,both are uchihas,both have fire release,both can do the fireball,madara's version makes sasuke's own look like child's play. Madara's chakta was made clear to be above others,where does it even hint abt sasuke?. Sinister means evil,not powerful,so stop trying to full yourself and drop it.

2)i said show me a scan of onoki making his sand heavy again?,since you beleive only lightened sand can get through,show me where onoki made itheavy again,otherwise he still has the sand,if you cant show me,dont bother trying.

Answer the damn questions,avoiding them would do you no good,is there anu magic stopping gaara from doing those scans under sasuke?,is there any magic that stops gaara from using the scan under sasuke's feet?
You can stop making up rather foolish arguments,no single point is going for you,and the fact that you ignore the scans show it. Answer the damn questions or dont bother trying.

 

[kajiko]

1)yes,all uchihas have powerful chalkar,but madara's own was powerful even among the uchihas.siinister means eveil you dumbass,his chakra had more evil than kurama,not power,to think that sasulke has more powerful chakra than kurama..my goodness. Madara dosent use raiton,so using chidori is a foolish point,you want to compare thwir chakra power?then use what they both have,both are uchihas,both have fire release,both can do the fireball,madara's version makes sasuke's own look like child's play. Madara's chakta was made clear to be above others,where does it even hint abt sasuke?. Sinister means evil,not powerful,so stop trying to full yourself and drop it.

2)i said show me a scan of onoki making his sand heavy again?,since you beleive only lightened sand can get through,show me where onoki made itheavy again,otherwise he still has the sand,if you cant show me,dont bother trying.

Answer the damn questions,avoiding them would do you no good,is there anu magic stopping gaara from doing those scans under sasuke?,is there any magic that stops gaara from using the scan under sasuke's feet?
You can stop making up rather foolish arguments,no single point is going for you,and the fact that you ignore the scans show it. Answer the damn questions or dont bother trying.

you really like to argue Don' t you?

 

[genii96]

you really like to argue Don' t you?

it's called a debatexd.

He says sasuke's chakra is more powerful than kurama and madara,you agree?

 

[shelke]

^ I have entertained this long enough. This is just asinine behaviour now.

Just for the record, I'm going to leave this here:

Forgot to add that the Jutsu Onoki used to lighten his sand is called: Doton Keijungan No Jutsu and it lightens the earth/sand. It's EVEN mentioned in the link I posted, but here it's again:

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I guess a pair of nice glasses are in order.

 

[genii96]

^ I have entertained this long enough. This is just asinine behaviour now.

Just for the record, I'm going to leave this here:

pathetic,you can show where onoki lightens his sand,but can't sjow where he makes it heavy again,which means gaara now has lightened sand to his arsenal.

I guess you cant answer if he can do the scans underneath susanoo cuz there is no way to deny it. Nice try though.

 

[ninjabot]

Sasuke. Gaara's sand is particularly slow and the more he tries to move at once, the more buildup (and rest) it requires. Sasuke stays on the move on the ground, or takes flight on a Hawk if Gaara goes on high. And if he closes in on Gaara he simply plows right through his sand shield with a giant ethereal bone fist.

Yes Gaara can block enton, but he can't block an enton-coated Susanoo weapon. If Sasuke shreds through the sand to clobber Gaara and misses, the flames from his enton could still ignite his clothing. Not to mention Sasuke's focused Enton burns hotter than stray flames. If anything, anything at all gets on his clothing while Sasuke has him in his sights he'll just flash-fry him.

But the sure kill? The thing guaranteed to work? Genjutsu. Deidara proved that there's practically no range that you can be that will allow you to avoid visual Genjutsu. Even worse, Gaara's fight against Niidaime Mizukage proved he hasn't the skill to break visual Genjutsu (didn't try even once). One blitz that gets Sasuke close enough to him while eyes set for a paralysis Genjutsu and Gaara's done. Though... he may be able to manipulate sand while paralyzed. Inwhich case Sasuke just puts him to sleep... and then puts him to perpetual sleep.

 

[shelke]

^ Mangahelpers ninjabot? Just asking.

pathetic,you can show where onoki lightens his sand,but can't sjow where he makes it heavy again,which means gaara now has lightened sand to his arsenal.

I guess you cant answer if he can do the scans underneath susanoo cuz there is no way to deny it. Nice try though.

Spoiler

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[genii96]

Sasuke. Gaara's sand is particularly slow and the more he tries to move at once, the more buildup (and rest) it requires. Sasuke stays on the move on the ground, or takes flight on a Hawk if Gaara goes on high. And if he closes in on Gaara he simply plows right through his sand shield with a giant ethereal bone fist.

Yes Gaara can block enton, but he can't block an enton-coated Susanoo weapon. If Sasuke shreds through the sand to clobber Gaara and misses, the flames from his enton could still ignite his clothing. Not to mention Sasuke's focused Enton burns hotter than stray flames. If anything, anything at all gets on his clothing while Sasuke has him in his sights he'll just flash-fry him.

But the sure kill? The thing guaranteed to work? Genjutsu. Deidara proved that there's practically no range that you can be that will allow you to avoid visual Genjutsu. Even worse, Gaara's fight against Niidaime Mizukage proved he hasn't the skill to break visual Genjutsu (didn't try even once). One blitz that gets Sasuke close enough to him while eyes set for a paralysis Genjutsu and Gaara's done. Though... he may be able to manipulate sand while paralyzed. Inwhich case Sasuke just puts him to sleep... and then puts him to perpetual sleep.

gaara's sand is slow?:|
okay,lemme show ya something

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all in one panel,now sasuke is on the desert floor,what will sasuke do,to that jutsu,where all that sand went from the foor,to the air above him in one panel,and sasuke is on the floor?.please answer that.

Why cant he block an enton sword if he can block enton?xd,whats the difference?. Gaara blocked 5 susanoo swords,so a fist isnt gonna do much good.

Genjutsu?,requires eye contact,gaara faced 5 susanoos with 10 sharingans without getting caught,2 isnt gona be a problem

the mizukage didnt use visual genjutsu,he used mist genjutsu,there is no way to dispel it without getting the clam and there is no way to sense the clam aside from gaara's sand sensing and other like it,sasuke himself would be hopelessly trapped in there too.gaara managed to control the sand around the clam while he couldnt see it too.

 

[ninjabot]

@shelke: Yup. Arena thread is pretty... dead nowadays. Figured I'd share my knowledge here instead.

he raises his arms(you can see he is several kilometres in the air)

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all in one panel,now sasuke is on the desert floor,what will sasuke do,to that jutsu,where all that sand went from the foor,to the air above him in one panel,and sasuke is on the floor?.please answer that.

Gladly. Notice that throughout the time period of that panel Deidara is molding bakuton clay in his hands over an undetermined amount of time? That's the true way of knowing how long it took the sand to reach it's full mass. Not how many panels it took. Take also into consideration the fact that he is doing nothing more than lifting the sand. He's not making any accurate grabbing/tracking motions with it. He literally did nothing but lift it. Take ALSO into consideration the fact that Gaara has access to no sand other than his own until he's actually mixed his own with the surrounding sand. He isn't capable of picking up an entire desert's worth from the beginning of the fight. Meaning Sasuke clearly has time to blitz him before that point.

Why cant he block an enton sword if he can block enton?

Seriously? Because Enton has little to no solid mass. It's a gaseous ball of flame. The sword however has mass... weight... and holds concussive force alot better. Enton doesn't "push" through objects, it burns through them. Sasuke's sword however, slices through things. In other words, we've seen Sasuke slice through concrete/stone pillars with his Susanoo weapons. This was before they were powered up via enton. If he can punch through stone walls and pillars Gaara's sand domes won't do anything to prevent him from getting to Gaara at all. Not unless he compacts an entire desert into a tiny shell (which is impossible, mind you).

whats the difference?. Gaara blocked 5 susanoo swords,so a fist isnt gonna do much good.

No he didn't.

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He blocked one, attempted to block more, and was put down because of it. This is still against a Madara who is toying with him mind you, so any thing of note in the Kage's favor is likely made moot by that anyway.

Also, let's not forget the rule behind clones: one's chakra is split evenly amongst them. Those Susanoo wielding clones were potentially only accessing 1/25th of the strength they could have access to. Even on top of all of THAT, they're only in full-form. Not perfect form. Last but not least, they aren't coating their weapons in enton. So yeah... alot of reasons he can't do the same against Sasuke.

Genjutsu?,requires eye contact,gaara faced 5 susanoos with 10 sharingans without getting caught,2 isnt gona be a problem

Can you prove with any certainty whatsoever that any of them attempted Genjutsu against him? Nope. No, you certainly can't.

the mizukage didnt use visual genjutsu,he used mist genjutsu,there is no way to dispel it without getting the clam and there is no way to sense the clam aside from gaara's sand sensing and other like it,sasuke himself would be hopelessly trapped in there too.gaara managed to control the sand around the clam while he couldnt see it too.

No, I meant a Genjutsu designed to alter your sight alone. The Genjutsu, regardless of how it was cast, alters your sight just like a Sharingan Genjutsu can. And regardless of how it was cast on Gaara the simple fact that he didn't use "Kai" to release it is (while not proof), reasonable doubt as to how he can deal with Genjutsu. Which is to say "Not at all."

 

[genii96]

@shelke: Yup. Arena thread is pretty... dead nowadays. Figured I'd share my knowledge here instead.



Gladly. Notice that throughout the time period of that panel Deidara is molding bakuton clay in his hands over an undetermined amount of time? That's the true way of knowing how long it took the sand to reach it's full mass. Not how many panels it took. Take also into consideration the fact that he is doing nothing more than lifting the sand. He's not making any accurate grabbing/tracking motions with it. He literally did nothing but lift it. Take ALSO into consideration the fact that Gaara has access to no sand other than his own until he's actually mixed his own with the surrounding sand. He isn't capable of picking up an entire desert's worth from the beginning of the fight. Meaning Sasuke clearly has time to blitz him before that point.


Seriously? Because Enton has little to no solid mass. It's a gaseous ball of flame. The sword however has mass... weight... and holds concussive force alot better. Enton doesn't "push" through objects, it burns through them. Sasuke's sword however, slices through things. In other words, we've seen Sasuke slice through concrete/stone pillars with his Susanoo weapons. This was before they were powered up via enton. If he can punch through stone walls and pillars Gaara's sand domes won't do anything to prevent him from getting to Gaara at all. Not unless he compacts an entire desert into a tiny shell (which is impossible, mind you).

No he didn't.

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He blocked one, attempted to block more, and was put down because of it. This is still against a Madara who is toying with him mind you, so any thing of note in the Kage's favor is likely made moot by that anyway.

Also, let's not forget the rule behind clones: one's chakra is split evenly amongst them. Those Susanoo wielding clones were potentially only accessing 1/25th of the strength they could have access to. Even on top of all of THAT, they're only in full-form. Not perfect form. Last but not least, they aren't coating their weapons in enton. So yeah... alot of reasons he can't do the same against Sasuke.



Can you prove with any certainty whatsoever that any of them attempted Genjutsu against him? Nope. No, you certainly can't.


No, I meant a Genjutsu designed to alter your sight alone. The Genjutsu, regardless of how it was cast, alters your sight just like a Sharingan Genjutsu can. And regardless of how it was cast on Gaara the simple fact that he didn't use "Kai" to release it is (while not proof), reasonable doubt as to how he can deal with Genjutsu. Which is to say "Not at all."

1) gaara dosent need to mix any sand to control ot,where did you get that?,and what happens when he lifts it right underneath sasuke?,what happens when that amount of sand is raised up from sasuke's feet?,you think he wont be reduced to a pulp?.

2)enton sword is not a normal sword,it's just made of flames of amaterasu shaped like a sword. Even if it was,gaara already blocked 5 susano swords with just a small amount of sand when his back was turned.i hope you are not comparing a pillar to gaara's sand?

3)actually,5 attacked him at once,his sand blocked it,you can clearly see that the sand was next to gaara,right on his back,not a distance from him,the force of the swords being repelled sent him flying,and he got back up without any injury,had that shield been made a distance from him,he would be fine,oh and that was with a little amount of sand,not a desert worth,and he wasnt even looking. Madara was an edo,his chakra is limitless,and only shadow clones follow that rule. Madara didnt use his full strength,thats far from toying,seeing as he sent meteors,used forests,and even his perfect susanoo.

4)the fact that one of them grabbed A just to put him in a genjutsu?,and why wont they attempt it?,so gaara looked them in the eye through out?.he was up against sharingans,obviously he wouldnt risk looking at their eyes

5)what are you talking about?,the mist is what caused the visions,it was a field genjutsu.not just on gaara,the only way to stop the genjutsu is by destroying the source,the clam. The genjutsu affects your senses. Sensors couldnt even find anything in the mist. Kai isnt going to stop the clam genjutsu:|.

 

[ninjabot]

1: I forgot they were already in the desert. That said, Gaara controlling sand beneath Sasuke simply results in Sasuke using Shunshin to get away, or Susanoo to endure any sand attack from below. Or even jump and summon a hawk to avoid said sand.

2: That's my point: it's not a normal sword. It's far stronger than that (a Susanoo sword, made stronger thanks to shape manipulated Amaterasu flames coating it). And I already proved you wrong about blocking 5 Susanoo swords. That NEVER happened. He blocked ONE. Then, 3 or 4 more Susanoo swords swung and crushed through his sand, sending him flying. Look at the scan I posted, it's from this very site.

3: No, no, and no. Large amounts of sand can be condensed into smaller, tougher shapes. Likewise, once again he blocked one, and the others shattered his defense, sending him flying. Because he was knocked back by the force of his defense being utterly destroyed, he was saved from being chopped to pieces. He's not blocking an Amaterasu coated Susanoo sword. Not like that. As for playing with them, he used the meteor before deciding to play with the kages, and didn't use Perfect Susanoo until they started thinking they had him. And again it is never stated, anywhere, not even implied that only shadow clones split your chakra.

4: What!? A=/=Gaara. What is this even implying? I said prove it was attempted against Gaara, not A. And I'm sure Gaara would TRY not to look at Sasuke's eyes, but looking him in the eye would be as simple as blitzing him and looking him in the eye during his surprise. Or capturing him the way Madara caught A. Gaara is not fast by ANY stretch of the word.

5: You're wrong. Kabuto cast a mass Genjutsu back during part one that connected against everyone at the Chuunin exams. Everyone who was skilled at escaping Genjutsu escaped themselves, but those who weren't were put to sleep by the illusion (Naruto). Sakura broke herself out, as did Kakashi and Gai. And Sakura later used "Kai" to release Naruto from the Genjutsu. Mizukage's worked the same way, but instead of seeing feathers that cast the Genjutsu on everyone it was a mist. Kai would stop the Genjutsu if the ninja wielding it was profiecient in chakra control or escaping Genjutsu.

 

[UchihaInza]

it wouldnt be fair EMS Sasuke

 

[genii96]

1: I forgot they were already in the desert. That said, Gaara controlling sand beneath Sasuke simply results in Sasuke using Shunshin to get away, or Susanoo to endure any sand attack from below. Or even jump and summon a hawk to avoid said sand.

2: That's my point: it's not a normal sword. It's far stronger than that (a Susanoo sword, made stronger thanks to shape manipulated Amaterasu flames coating it). And I already proved you wrong about blocking 5 Susanoo swords. That NEVER happened. He blocked ONE. Then, 3 or 4 more Susanoo swords swung and crushed through his sand, sending him flying. Look at the scan I posted, it's from this very site.

3: No, no, and no. Large amounts of sand can be condensed into smaller, tougher shapes. Likewise, once again he blocked one, and the others shattered his defense, sending him flying. Because he was knocked back by the force of his defense being utterly destroyed, he was saved from being chopped to pieces. He's not blocking an Amaterasu coated Susanoo sword. Not like that. As for playing with them, he used the meteor before deciding to play with the kages, and didn't use Perfect Susanoo until they started thinking they had him. And again it is never stated, anywhere, not even implied that only shadow clones split your chakra.

4: What!? A=/=Gaara. What is this even implying? I said prove it was attempted against Gaara, not A. And I'm sure Gaara would TRY not to look at Sasuke's eyes, but looking him in the eye would be as simple as blitzing him and looking him in the eye during his surprise. Or capturing him the way Madara caught A. Gaara is not fast by ANY stretch of the word.

5: You're wrong. Kabuto cast a mass Genjutsu back during part one that connected against everyone at the Chuunin exams. Everyone who was skilled at escaping Genjutsu escaped themselves, but those who weren't were put to sleep by the illusion (Naruto). Sakura broke herself out, as did Kakashi and Gai. And Sakura later used "Kai" to release Naruto from the Genjutsu. Mizukage's worked the same way, but instead of seeing feathers that cast the Genjutsu on everyone it was a mist. Kai would stop the Genjutsu if the ninja wielding it was profiecient in chakra control or escaping Genjutsu.

1) the sand would have already caught his feet,shushin wont do any good,because he is still in a desert,susanoo has an underside,which means he is left open from underneath,if gaara does this

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rught under sasuke,there is no escape,you cant deny that.unles sasuke can jump several kilometres into the air in an instant

2)it is still a susanoo sword,gaara can block it,and his sand blocks enton,so it's not going to do any good,especoally in the dessert.

3) his sword blocked 5 susanoo swords,if the swords broke through he would have been dead,it was his sand that blocked the swords,and he walked out of it,if thosw swords broke the defence,they would have at least made contact with him.enton covered susanoo sword would do nothing to a dessert of sand. Dude only shadow clones split your chakra evenly.dont knbow what you call toying,but a meteor, several forests,25 susanoo clones,perfect susanoo seems like a bit of trying.

4)if gaara didnt look in the eyes of 10 sharingans,he would have no problem with 2,simple as that,gaara blocked sasuke's enton from short range like it was child's play,so sasuke blitzing him in a desert is not gong to happen,gaara isnt fast,his sand is.

5)mizukage's genjutsu is not like kabuto's,the clam is creating the mist,you cant kai out of it,you can only stop it by destroying the clam,read the fight between them,every shinobi includong sensors were caught in it,the only way was to destroy the clam,the mizukage himself said it,so why are you still arguing?.

 

[Unorthodox]

sasuke stomps

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Everyone who was skilled at escaping Genjutsu escaped themselves, but those who weren't were put to sleep by the illusion (Naruto). Sakura broke herself out, as did Kakashi and Gai. And Sakura later used "Kai" to release Naruto from the Genjutsu. Mizukage's worked the same way, but instead of seeing feathers that cast the Genjutsu on everyone it was a mist.

kai only works for basic genjutsu. mizukage cast it on the battlefield and even kages were trapped in it

I forgot they were already in the desert. That said, Gaara controlling sand beneath Sasuke simply results in Sasuke using Shunshin to get away,

straight into more sand. they are in A DESERT

Sasuke. Gaara's sand is particularly slow and the more he tries to move at once, the more buildup (and rest) it requires.

no actually gaaras sand blocked A's kick, kept up with 5 susano madara clones with shared vision all at once and reacted to madaras yasaka magatama attack

And if he closes in on Gaara he simply plows right through his sand shield with a giant ethereal bone fist.

which is why 5 giant ethereal swords did nothing to his sand right?

the flames from his enton could still ignite his clothing

gaara is always covered in sand. he can just remove it and put more on

But the sure kill? The thing guaranteed to work? Genjutsu. Deidara proved that there's practically no range that you can be that will allow you to avoid visual Genjutsu.

gaaras a sensor. he need not look at sasuke at all

Even worse, Gaara's fight against Niidaime Mizukage proved he hasn't the skill to break visual Genjutsu (didn't try even once

because mizukage said he couldnt. he has to destroy the clam and stop the mist.

Gaara's sand can't really do anything on Susanoo..

they are in a DESERT. he can just drop thousands of tons of sand on sasuke and walk away

i dont know where you got the idea that sasuke's susanoo was the same in defence as madara's susanoo. Madara had the most powerful chakra,the susanoo is the manifestation of the users chakra,therefore,the more powerful the chakra,the more powerful the susanoo

susano depends on how advanced it is. PS is the highest level possible. and no susano gets more advanced the more hatred an uchiha has

saske's chakra is dark and cold,hence the demonic representation of his susanoo

itachis susano is demonic too you know

Sasuke's much faster than Gaara, and we all know this.

gaaras defence works regardless of gaaras reaction time anyway

- If Sasuke gets close to Gaara, his Kirin-infused sword and Susanoo ribcage can hold off sand while he demolishes Gaara.

theya re in a desert. likely there will be an entire sky full of sand tsunamis from every direction

Genjutsu - If Sasuke makes eye contact, he can paralyze Gaara

...which is why this has never worked for him?

Amaterasu, Susanoo, Katons, Kirin all either counter or completely annihilate Gaara's sand.

amat failed already as did katon. katon would need to be lava level in hotness to turn sand into glass. kirin has crap prep. and susanos been countered by gaara already

, all Sasuke has to do is jump to avoid that, or swipe with his Amaterasu sword. Gaara's slow; we all know that

gaaras one of the fastest in the series. hes stationary but his sand? not slow. he has blocked extremely fast and powerful attacks while being nowhere near them like vs mizukage and madara. if sasuke jumps he will be near more sand and get crushed

A well timed Amaterasu finishes Gaara

not really as itd just hit his sand armour. which he can remove

Gaara only pulled Madara out by lightening his sand; a feat done with the help of Onoki.

sand being faster doesnt mean it cant get under susano without being fast. gaara never said he NEEDED it to be fast

Even without that, Amaterasu should suffice.

thats the one tactic thats doomed to not work

That, and Gaara cant breach Sasuke's Susanoo, what with Enton Magatamas hitting any sand that comes close.

yeah good luck hitting an entire desert

Show me proof that Gaara can pull Sasuke out of Sussano. I mean, your logic is literally insane. Why didn't he pull him out from underneath Sussano like you say he can in the above scans?

he fought him once and very briefly. but just from that he deduced susano cant defend you from below. therefore he need not have faster sand to get it under susano

picture what sasuke did to gaara in the chuunin exams, except this time he does it with a chidori enhanced sword of kusanagi. Low. Diff.

picture what gaara did to mizukage except sasuke has no oil to break out. they are in a desert. sasukes not lancing through an entire ocean

Kagatsuchi. Just accpet it, Gaara couldn't even scratch Sasuke along with four other jouins

in a small space. in a desert gaara can literally drop thousands of tons of sand on sasuke and drown him

Sasuke's incomplete Sussano was a much better defense than Gaara

yeah? well gaara just creates a sandpit beneath sasukes feet. his defence sinks.

Also if Gaara can reach Madara from under sussano, why the hell did he pull him out of it with Onoki's help?

nothing says he needed onoki

Gaara couldn't scratch him along with 4 other jounins in his incomplete sussano.

if they are in a desert gaara can sink him. no physical contact needed

sussanoo it's weightless

not true. its so heavy itachi even appeared slow/motionless

Do you even read the manga? The arrow was not aimed at the pillar, but DSM Kabuto, and it went clean through.

the wall stil stopped it. so will sand

. If that was so, then why didn't gaara pull Madara out of Sussano himself? Wait, he can't otherwise he would've done so or harmed him as you suggest

because he did? and when he tried it again madara used the legged version which means no more weak spot

Chidori pierces which is what it did to Gaara sand

4 years ago. now 5 susano swords and madaras yasakas couldnt put a dent in it

and the manga has already shown it to ripped through Gaara with ease.

actually not with ease. gaara was stationary, trying to go into shukaku mode and sasuke had to run down a huge wall to get enough momentum

Magatama already seen goin through Gaara sand wall

no it wasnt. it was blocked with the help of onokis golem. and that was a small amount of sand

that alone is enough plus sasukes susanoo defence makes gaaras look weak as shi

whats sasuke blocked that surpasses jouki boi, C3 and susano swords?

The arrows are faster than Gaara defense you proved nothing

and if they are? they are in a desert so it will have to get through a ton of sand to hit gaara

Kakashi who is also faster than Gaara says he would've been killed if not for Kamui cause the Arrows were too fast. Gaara can't dodge them and he surely can't attack Sasuke while tryin to defend himself

kakashi doesnt control a battlefield with thousands of tons of sand

Nothing will happen under Sasuke Susano'o since Gaara can't get in without Onoki's help'

im sure if a susano walks onto sand that that sand will be under it. its not suddenly impossible to get under it when sasuke is always standing on sand every minute hes in this battle

Sasuke wounded Gaara with a regular chidori in part 1

gaara was stationary, trying to go bijuu mode and sasuke had to run down a huge wall to build up enough speed and power. if gaara cared about beating sasuke hed just dump a thousand tons of sand on him especially in a desert

Now with his giant chidori blades that he uses to shoot people out of the sky(see Deidara fight), he will obliterate Gaara no matter how much defense he uses.

how? when the sand is so strong it stops V2 A's raiton kick theres no way a chidori spear wont get diverted.

Gaara best attack sand Tsunami, gets countered by Sasuke hawk any sand arm attack and be dodge

how? the entire battlefield is gaaras playground. a hawk is not fast enough if deidara wasnt

Gaara sand couldn't even stop Chidori

4 years ago when he was evil and weak. lee said SRA gaara was far stronger and more skilled than evil gaara

Gaara sand couldn't block kimi he already plowed through it easy

wrong. gaara's sand broke kimimaros strongest bone

knocked Gaara down he could've killed him then, but plot saved him

gaara not going shukaku saved kimimaro you mean

Every fight we've seen Gaara in he's been owned or got killed

defeated lee, defeated sasuke (in the forest), drew with naruto, had to protect the village from deidara, overpowered 4th kazekage and 2nd mizukage. only outright loss was madara

Gaara had the advantage with sand all around and stil couldn't beat Deidara, he got killed like the weakling he is

i see so gaaras identical 6 months ago to gaara now? even though commander gaara can sleep now that shukakus not in him and has much more advanced sand techs?

. Gaara closes one eye to use the sand eye, he gets put into a Genjutsu, and he gets obliterated by Kirin.

how will sasuke know where the sand eye is?

He never tried to blitz Gaara, we seen his sand did nothing to him

it broke his strongest attack. the **** do you mean nothing?

Gaara ultimate defense stop his arm drill, Gaara didn't have that protectin his back Kimimaro could've easily attack his back and kilked him.

gaara was out of chakra so no he couldnt have saved himself. the fact remains gaara's main defence beat kimimaros best attack

Gaara was just weak he couldn't even catch Deidara, in the desert he got killed

no he got captured and deidara only did that because hes a bad matchup for gaara and snuck bombs within the sand. who else can do that? also deidara started out in the air so he had prep time. gaara did not. and yes he caught deidara considering deidara left the fight armless

If Gaara was so good in the desert he should've beat Deidara easy, but he was killed like the loser he is.

deidara was just too badass and a bad matchup, he mixed bombs within the sand and made gaara divert the sand to protect the village instead of himself. also that wasnt current gaara. he was weaker then. i like how you think losing to deidara somehow puts a mark on gaaras fighting ability when hes goddamn deidara. hes strong as fuk

it's canon Chidori > Gaara

its canon CE gaara < SRA gaara < kazekage gaara. chidori wont work anymore

Sasuke, Lee, Kimimaro, Deidara, & 2nd Mizukage, Madara had no problem gettin past Gaara sand. I

2nd mizukage lost, deidara got his arm crushed and madara was immortal so crushing him was never going to do anything anyway. madara was covered in sand multiple times. sasuke lee and kimimaro did not fight war arc gaara

Lightning has the upper hand in the fight against gaaras infinity

gaaras element is wind. and no lightning doesnt have any advantage vs gaaras sand

Sasuke has proven to penetrate gaara's so called ultimate defense with his chidori

chidori pierces everything. theres no proof CE gaara was weak to any type of lightning nor would CE era sasuke be able ot pierce the defence of commander general gaara

chidori, we also seen 5 attacks come all at the same time to sasukes susanno one of them being garras attack

we also saw 5 susano swords do nothing to gaaras defence

not even 3rd raikage could break through it and hurt sasuke

yes he did. sasuke was about to die

Gaara still lost to Deidara , Sasuke>Deidara>Gaara

horrible logic. commander general gaara > beginning of part 2 gaara. moreover sasuke barely had any advantage over deidara except his lightning and sharingan. none of hebi sasukes attacks could have stopped kazekage gaara

I can name a gang of people who could get pass Gaara defense. Madara, Obito, Onoki, Mu, Sasuke, Guy, A, 3rd Raikage & many more.

A already tried to kick gaaras sand and it did nothing

Sasuke raiton already got through Gaara fake absolute defense easy, Kirin will obliterate him.

4 years ago. are you saying gaara didnt get the least bit stronger in putting chakra into it? also sasuke wont be running down a huge wall this time

After getting Sussano Sasuke stated that his defense was even stronger than Garra's

he wasnt fighting desert gaara and doesnt know gaaras full capabilities in war arc

Not just that but I don't know how Garra would deal with Genjitsu or Amaterasu, let alone have the sand catch Sasuke

he controls a battlefield's worth. how will he lack sand?

- Sasuke can summon a hawk to avoid ground altogether.

hawk is slower than deidaras bird which wasnt fast enough to save his arm

Chidori can be use to break through Gaara's defense.

gaara from many years ago and only because he was stationary and sasuke was running down a wall for momentum

- Amatersu is extremely effective to render his dense sand useless.

no actually it wouldnt do a damn thing