Gaara & Lee vs Kimimaro & Orochimaru

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Kimimaro could solo both of them. As could Oro. No different now then it was then.
 

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Kimimaro died against Gaara when Gaara was 12. Orochimaru considered Kimimaru a suitable body for him to take.

I think Orochimaru will need Kimimaro. Gaara by himself(now) will put both through some hard times, add Lee, and I reckon it's a fair fight.

kimmimaro didn't lose against gaara, he was just about to kill him when he died from his illness, same with itachi, sasuke didnt beat him, he died from a disease.

Orochimaru and Kimmimaro win this,
And also we dont know if lee can use all of the eight gates just up to like 5
 

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Kimimaro died against Gaara when Gaara was 12. Orochimaru considered Kimimaru a suitable body for him to take.

I think Orochimaru will need Kimimaro. Gaara by himself(now) will put both through some hard times, add Lee, and I reckon it's a fair fight.

true, but remember, Kimimaro was sick when they fought. Gaara even stated that they got lucky and should have died had it not been for Kimimaro's sickness catching up to him at the exact moment. Gaara and Lee have gotten incredibly strong but I don't think they're a match for a full powered Orochimaru, much less a healthy Kimimaro to back him up.
 

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true, but remember, Kimimaro was sick when they fought. Gaara even stated that they got lucky and should have died had it not been for Kimimaro's sickness catching up to him at the exact moment. Gaara and Lee have gotten incredibly strong but I don't think they're a match for a full powered Orochimaru, much less a healthy Kimimaro to back him up.

Re Kimimaro: Gaara was winning in most senses of the term but I do obv agree that Kimimaro had him and was able to outlast & win against Gaara had he been healthy. Kimimaro only landed one hit on Gaara in the exchange, which is why I think the Gaara we have now would pown him.

Orochimaru was considered very strong and was obv a Sannin and would have been elected Kage had he not been crazy. I still think though that it's about the match up, Gaara would be an unorthodox opponent for Orochimaru.
There isn't much about Orochimaru that makes me think Gaara couldn't put up a very good fight apart from his immortality thing.

I just think it would be a great fight, one that would cause both sides to bring all the aces to the table.
 

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Orochimaru goes Hydra mode and Kimimaro can handle lee, so Orochimaru and Kimimaro wins
 

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Orochimaru and kimmi because lee would ruch in all fists blazing (literelly) and thne oro would take him out with one of his many justsus or eat him i dunno...and then they would own gaara cause hes only sand they alot of justus and bones haah
 

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in there first fight garaa and lee would have died had kimimaru not died of his illness, that being said you said lee and gaara war arc here gaara doesn't have shukaku anymore. Kimimaru KKG negates pretty much all lee and gaara's tech, since both are only pyshical attacks. Then you add in oro thats just over kill at its worse, especially if he's at full health.
 

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Orochimaru goes Hydra mode and Kimimaro can handle lee, so Orochimaru and Kimimaro wins

Gaara makes th Hydra sink 200 meters underground and closes with Imperial Funeral.....Orochimaru's Fudged.

You can't just say a move will work and kill em both, Gaara would surely find a way around it.

Also: WTF is Orochimaru gonna do if Gaara & Lee fly up to 600+meters? Pretty sure Gaara can still fight at this distance easily.
 

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Gaara makes th Hydra sink 200 meters underground and closes with Imperial Funeral.....Orochimaru's Fudged.

You can't just say a move will work and kill em both, Gaara would surely find a way around it.

Also: WTF is Orochimaru gonna do if Gaara & Lee fly up to 600+meters? Pretty sure Gaara can still fight at this distance easily.

Now your saying the same thing: one move is not gonna solve it, i know gaara is skilled but he can't defeat Orochimaru.... How can Gaara handle Orochimaru's techniques, summons, manda, Edo Tensei and Hydra mode and his high intelligence....

We all know that taijutsu doesn't really work on Orochimaru and Lee is kind of useless in this fight in my opinion, its between oro and gaara and Oro will be the victor.

Lee can't win against Kimimaro and we all saw that Gaara and Lee had problems with Kimimaro, while he was sick, so Kimimaro together with Orochimaru

Orochimaru and Kimimaro wins
 

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Now your saying the same thing: one move is not gonna solve it, i know gaara is skilled but he can't defeat Orochimaru.... How can Gaara handle Orochimaru's techniques, summons, manda, Edo Tensei and Hydra mode and his high intelligence....

We all know that taijutsu doesn't really work on Orochimaru and Lee is kind of useless in this fight in my opinion, its between oro and gaara and Oro will be the victor.

Lee can't win against Kimimaro and we all saw that Gaara and Lee had problems with Kimimaro, while he was sick, so Kimimaro together with Orochimaru

Orochimaru and Kimimaro wins

I was giving a posible defence to Oro'c Hydra.

But I agree that Oro & Kimimaro have this....

Holy Crap the latest manga was so good, too good.
 
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yes.. Kimimaro > lee, why ? he is nothing even in drunken mode if kimimaro is in cursed seal stage 2 mode... :/

orochimaru > gaara.... why? gaara said no taijutsu can beat his absolute sand, oro has so many techs, he can fight gaara as well even if he is in shukaku mode, oro can fight naruto in 4 tails even though hes no match for naruto, but gaara has only 1 tail, and orochimaru can summon manda for fighting the shukaku, and he can also summon the 3 rashumons for great defense... now is this convo end? :)
 

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For them having no information about each other pretty much contradicts the manga, but well.

Orochimaru and Kimimaro will take this with medium difficulty.
Taijutsu is practically useless against both of them, so Lee won't pose that much of a threat. Even with his inner gates activated I can't really see him killing either one of them. If so, it would more likely be Orochimaru, who can use his rebirth technique and is pretty robust, though. Gaara will have some trouble fighting Orochimaru's huge snakes, Kimimaro can't be wounded by him at all - at least not if he has no sealing tags. In a thick forest Gaara can't use his sand without restrictions anyway. Like always I'm excluding Edo Tensei.

However, restricting Edo Tensei due to supposed preparation time is just ridiculous. In that case we could restrict any kind of Kuchiyose no Jutsu, since the contract that needs to be signed could also be considered as preparation time. Binding a soul to a body is just like signing a contract with an animal.
 

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Kimmimaro and oro
 

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if orochimaru was able to kill the 4th kazekage so effortlessly, and gaara had to struggle...i'd give it to oro. you say gaara and lee can be airborne, but then lee would be useless. if gaara goes airborne, then oro would probably go hydra mode. (fyi it also emits an invisible poison gas). also, that one attack isn't exactly a full counter to hydra mode, because it's composed of hundreds of tiny snakes that can easily escape.

i'd put it like this leaf's hokages/candidates>>>>sand's hokages. i don't even think he'd have to use edo tensei
 

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Kimimaro died against Gaara when Gaara was 12
it was more died of sickness while he happened to be fighting lee and gaara

Lee was having issues beating a sick Kimimaro who was practically toying with him
lee was drunk and had just gotten out of hospital.

Kimimaro is not needed. Oro has this.
how?

Have you forgotten edo tensei?
oros edos are sealed already and cant ever come back

gaara & Lee couldn't even beat kimi.
...yes they did. and that was 4 years ago, manga time. they get stronger, kimi cant

Gaara might be a kage but thats because the sand is the weakest village
i thought databook said iwa was

The fight with the 4th kazekage was an emotional bs. Nothing really happened
except gaara stomping him

Oro was considered Hokage over the sannin and minato (if he wasnt crazy), that means a lot more than Garra getting the title from a villiage of nobodies lol
its only "nobodies" because konohas the main character's village

Tobirama water release can make gaara's sand useless
since when?

in his fight against the strongest kage ever
oro fought hashirama?

kimmimaro is stronger than lee.We have not seen anything indicating that lee is now stronger than the guy who, pretty much, defeated gaara and lee together.
you forget lee was nerfed in that fight due to only just getting out of surgery, and gaara often had to protect lee rather than go for the kill

and you can't put down a sanin.
what did pain, sasuke and kabuto do then?

Oro took on a 4 tails kyubbi naruto without forming any hand seals
what did he do to summon rashomon then?

kimmimaro didn't lose against gaara, he was just about to kill him when he died from his illness, same with itachi, sasuke didnt beat him, he died from a disease.
kimimaro was trying desperately to kill gaara and couldnt. thats a victory as gaara outlasted him without resorting to shukaku

Gaara even stated that they got lucky and should have died had it not been for Kimimaro's sickness catching up to him at the exact moment
gaara had no idea kimmimaro was sick at all

gaara had to struggle
where did he struggle? and how do you know oro killed him effortlessly?

gaara said no taijutsu can beat his absolute sand
where?

Lee can't win against Kimimaro and we all saw that Gaara and Lee had problems with Kimimaro, while he was sick, so Kimimaro together with Orochimaru
gaara didnt use his bijuu and lee didnt use 5 gates
 
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Why bump the thread man? I don't think anyone will read what you posted because they have forgotten about this thread.
 
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