gaara and sasuke vs madara

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this is alive madara
location; a beach
restrictions: PS, and kyubi
distance: 100m
intel: full
 

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well, we haven't seen his EMS abilities besides susanoo
and with no Kyuubi, PS, rinnegan, mokuton..... team 1 wins.

depending on his EMS abilities he probably could still win this, but since we don't know them...
 

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Gaara = non factor
Madara wins this.
 

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V3 susanoo of Madara is enough to beat these.
 

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If this is EMS Madara and PS is restricted along with Kyuubi, then Sasuke solos. Madara isn't beating him w/ a V3 Susanoo when Sasuke's Susanoo is superior in weaponry, offense and defense due to being 2 levels above a V3 Susanoo.

Adding Gaara makes it a rape. Sasuke's vastly superior Susanoo can and will hold down Madara's Susanoo so Gaara can pull him out and Sasuke can smash him into the ground or light him up with Enton Magatama. Gaara is never pulling that off by himself though, cause his sand isn't catching Madara.

lol @ the people who said Madara wins this.
 
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EMS Madara gets dragged out of Susano'o thanks to the sand being under madara's feet at the start of the fight.

Gaara drags him out then enton arrow = GG
 

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If this is EMS Madara and PS is restricted along with Kyuubi, then Sasuke solos. Madara isn't beating him w/ a V3 Susanoo when Sasuke's Susanoo is superior in weaponry, offense and defense due to being 2 levels above a V3 Susanoo.

Adding Gaara makes it a rape. Sasuke's vastly superior Susanoo can and will hold down Madara's Susanoo so Gaara can pull him out and Sasuke can smash him into the ground or light him up with Enton Magatama. Gaara is never pulling that off by himself though, cause his sand isn't catching Madara.

lol @ the people who said Madara wins this.

you realize madara's susanoo is actually stronger than sasuke's right?,and has legs?. how is sasuke breaking it?. if madara stays in his susanoo then catching him isnt a problem.

Gaara = non factor
Madara wins this.
what makes you say that?
 

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Lol Sasuke Final susanoo is superior to Madara's L3 susanoo. LMAO KidGamer65.

1-Defense, Madara ribage susanoo tanked a direct hit from Naruto's giant rasengan, where Sasuke L3 couldn't even tank a wind jutsu from Danzo.

2-Attacks, Madara L3 has legs so it has speed and its attacks were enough to pierce through Gaara's sand defense that tanked Deidara biggest bomb besides C0.

L3 is even bigger than Sasuke's.

Madara wins this easily.
 

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EMS or Rinnengan Madara? Anyways both stomp. Madara with Rinnengan and Mokuton destroys.
 

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you realize madara's susanoo is actually stronger than sasuke's right?,and has legs?. how is sasuke breaking it?. if madara stays in his susanoo then catching him isnt a problem.

If you think a Level 3 Susanoo is going to be stronger than a level 4 Susanoo regardless of who uses it then I'm not even going to bother taking you seriously.

Lol Sasuke Final susanoo is superior to Madara's L3 susanoo. LMAO KidGamer65.

1-Defense, Madara ribage susanoo tanked a direct hit from Naruto's giant rasengan, where Sasuke L3 couldn't even tank a wind jutsu from Danzo.

2-Attacks, Madara L3 has legs so it has speed and its attacks were enough to pierce through Gaara's sand defense that tanked Deidara biggest bomb besides C0.

L3 is even bigger than Sasuke's.

Madara wins this easily.

level 4>Level 3. Basic math.
 

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Kid, Madara's V3 is bijuu sized.

Sasuke's isn't even boss summon sized.
 

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After reading the restrictions I changed my mind. Sasuke and Gaara wins this. Madara's V3 Susanoo won't save him from them.
 

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Kid, Madara's V3 is bijuu sized.

Sasuke's isn't even boss summon sized.

Size=/= Durability. Size only makes Madara's Susanoo superior to the counterparts of the same exact level. Susanoo's physical attributes get stronger and more armor is added as the levels increase.

Sasuke's V4 has two more layers of armor on it than Madara's level 3. Its two because Final Susanoo gains another layer from EMS, as seen in the change between Susanoo and one. Madara's Susanoo being bigger isn't going to mean that it has more armor.

Level 3 will always be inferior to level 4.
 

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I wouldn't underestimate Madara.

His (battle/history) intelligence, battle analogy, knowledge of a variety of jutsu's, general skill and raw power is just the best. We've only seen his 1st EMS doujutsu which is the Susano'o. He was then capable of advancing it to a Perfect Susano'o. We have not seen his 2nd, nor 3rd EMS doujutsu ability. He has a deep understanding of the Uchiha Clan, and thus will not hesitate to use it against Sasuke.
 
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Size=/= Durability.

Yet you always say the size of an explosion shows how strong it is, when there are concentrated blasts.

Also, if someone is to destroy Sasuke's durability he'd have to destroy a smaller amount of ''chakra'' than Madara's, since Madara's is bigger and he's sitting at its base.
 

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Yet you always say the size of an explosion shows how strong it is, when there are concentrated blasts.

Also, if someone is to destroy Sasuke's durability he'd have to destroy a smaller amount of ''chakra'' than Madara's, since Madara's is bigger and he's sitting at its base.

Except this is durability, completely different from the bold so whatever point you are trying to make is moot.

Yeah, he'd only need to destroy a smaller amount but it won't change the fact that he'd need a much stronger attack to destroy it than he'd need to destroy Madara's.

I wouldn't underestimate Madara.

His (battle/history) intelligence, battle analogy, knowledge of a variety of jutsu's, general skill and raw power is just the best. We've only seen his 1st EMS doujutsu which is the Susano'o. He was then capable of advancing it to a Perfect Susano'o. We have not seen his 2nd, nor 3rd EMS doujutsu ability. He has a deep understanding of the Uchiha Clan, and thus will not hesitate to use it against Sasuke. Also, you have not restricted Mokuton. That alone is all Madara needs to defeat both teams.

This is alive Madara. Mokuton is only usuable by Edo Madara.
 
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