Gaara and Mei vs Itachi

[pateuvasiliu]

The katon was already ending when he used Amaterasu.

 

[Prince Charles]

The katon was already ending when he used Amaterasu.

Doesnt change the fact that the katon was still active while he was activating Amaterasu.

 

[Strict]

That is close range booboo, that genjutsu argument has been over.

Amatersua requires the user to channel their chakra and focus of a special target. In that scan they used Amaaterau recklessly (if you get what i mean) they used it as a defense, not an offense. Offensively he would need to concentrate on a special target.also,

If Gaara can notice Amaterasu's usage through Itachi's eyes, this means he is close enough to look in Itachi's eyes. Preparation time or not, Gaara's sand is not fast enough to react at the speed of Amaterasu, which is cast right at the target. Danzo also reacted to Amaterasu via eye contact [

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] yet he couldn't avoid it as the flame is cast instantly [

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That is it. Manga scans say more than words.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Doesnt change the fact that the katon was still active while he was activating Amaterasu.

What's your point, after all?

Itachi suffers from backlash -AFTER- he uses the MS, not before.

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

Lmao none of this was your initial argument. Glad you're done with that.

Madara=/Otachi and i didn't see the outcome of his sand specially

What's going through his sand to.kill him?!

That simple water isn't enough. He defeated the Mizukage -_-

Huh, and your point is? are saying i can't counter your argument by bring others things in? okay, if you want to go back to our old argument then it's okay with me.

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^Here Itachi using Amaterasu instantly without any preparation for amaterasu...like i said before....Gaara's sand isn't even coming close to reaching to Amaterasu.

The Yasaka Magatama didn't come out of Gaara's Ultimate defense do Onoki's Stone Golem at bottom of the sand to protect the Shinobi alliance....it's common sense...

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[pateuvasiliu]

Couple errors in your judgement:

1. You're giving Itachi Edo Itachi's feats.

Kinda nuff said. You are comparing an Edo, with unlimited chakra and stamina to a sick, dying person. Itachi's Amaterasu takes time to build up and no matter how many scans of Edo Itachi you bring me they are not the same.

2. You are comparing Ma-focking-dara's Susanoo technique with Itachi's.

Don't make me laugh. Madara is the master of Susanoo, his is leagues stronger than a dying Itachi's.

 

[Prince Charles]

What's your point, after all?

Itachi suffers from backlash -AFTER- he uses the MS, not before.

My point is while Itachi is in the middle of doing a jutsu, specifically probably a katon. Gaara wouldn't be expecting him to be able to use Amaterasu half way through.

Chakra control. The MS techs don't have such a devastating backlash on him if he controls the portion and length of how he uses them.

 

[Zexion~]

Over-rater? Is this a thing nowadays?

LoS stands for line of sight. I.e. Gaara puts sand between himself and Itachi to block his sight and as such not burn.

And Amaterasu isn't burning through his sand. It failed to do so already. Not to mention, if Itachi wastes Amaterasu he'll suffer from backlash and be unable to dodge Gaara's attack which will end the fight.

Using amertarasu on his top defense is not wasting it .. and don't know where you got that using amertarasu means you can not dodge if your refering to the Itachi Vs Sasuke fight .. he got impaled in the leg.. pretty sure that hinders your dodgin ability

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[blazekev90]

If Gaara can notice Amaterasu's usage through Itachi's eyes, this means he is close enough to look in Itachi's eyes. Preparation time or not, Gaara's sand is not fast enough to react at the speed of Amaterasu, which is cast right at the target. Danzo also reacted to Amaterasu via eye contact [

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] yet he couldn't avoid it as the flame is cast instantly [

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]. When the preparation time you talk about is done, Itachi uses Amaterasu without further delay [

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That is it. Manga scans say more than words.

Not necessarily, Garra has used greater distance amd prepped for counters before. Noticing a suddenly closed eye that is bleeding isn't hard. Hell uchiha are known for their eye techniques, one would expext this.

Danzo was careless in.that fight, we both know that. However, i get your point, but that was also Sasuke.

The only time I've seen Itachi not prep is when he was Edo or using it to defend an attack quickly. Garra is someone who guards and attacks. So as you mention after the initial use of Ama. he will need no other prep, well after that the fight has started and Garra can keep himself guarded as he has before.


Sand is disposable, so that's not a factor, especially when he can make more effortlessly.

 

[blazekev90]

My point is while Itachi is in the middle of doing a jutsu, specifically probably a katon. Gaara wouldn't be expecting him to be able to use Amaterasu half way through.

Chakra control. The MS techs don't have such a devastating backlash on him if he controls the portion and length of how he uses them.

Since when was Garra a ine dimensional fighter? Garra has his sand attack from all angles. Itachi still has to focus and defend. The Kimimmaro is an example. He had to keep running amd use fast offensive attacks against Garra, he also had the stamina to do all of this.

Most of Itachi's attacks, especially if combining as you say will leave him open.

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

Couple errors in your judgement:

1. You're giving Itachi Edo Itachi's feats.

Kinda nuff said. You are comparing an Edo, with unlimited chakra and stamina to a sick, dying person. Itachi's Amaterasu takes time to build up and no matter how many scans of Edo Itachi you bring me they are not the same.

2. You are comparing Ma-focking-dara's Susanoo technique with Itachi's.

Don't make me laugh. Madara is the master of Susanoo, his is leagues stronger than a dying Itachi's.

Who said alive Itachi can't use Amaterasu instantly....i didn't know Edo tensei can take your old abilities to new heights.

Why do you people say "don't compare this to Madara...don't compare that to Madara"?....Madara Susanoo is stronger than Itachi's Susanoo, but no way is his Yasaka Magatama stronger than Itachi's Yasaka Magatama ...i would love for you to prove me wrong.

 

[DrProof]

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Not even going to address this match-up.

 

[TheEvilOne]

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Not even going to address this match-up.

You should explain why Gaara > Itachi ^

 

[blazekev90]

Huh, and your point is? are saying i can't counter your argument by bring others things in? okay, if you want to go back to our old argument then it's okay with me.

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^Here Itachi using Amaterasu instantly without any preparation for amaterasu...like i said before....Gaara's sand isn't even coming close to reaching to Amaterasu.

The Yasaka Magatama didn't come out of Gaara's Ultimate defense do Onoki's Stone Golem at bottom of the sand to protect the Shinobi alliance....it's common sense...

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Srry didn't mean to overlook your post, i can't see it all on my phone.

As i stated, in that effort Itachi used Ama. as a defense mechanism, we saw the entire place covered. Using it ona specific opponent or target requires more restrain on the eye as he has to focus

That's Madara, fire isn't even sands weakness. If it can withstand Ay's lightening amor in a full attack, sand would defend against that.

 

[DrProof]

You should explain why Gaara > Itachi ^

I think.. I will..

Come at me Itachi debaters.

 

[Zexion~]

I think.. I will..

Come at me Itachi debaters.

Will do .. when there is something to get at?

 

[DrProof]

Will do .. when there is something to get at?

Propose a premise.

 

[Prince Charles]

Since when was Garra a ine dimensional fighter? Garra has his sand attack from all angles. Itachi still has to focus and defend. The Kimimmaro is an example. He had to keep running amd use fast offensive attacks against Garra, he also had the stamina to do all of this.

Most of Itachi's attacks, especially if combining as you say will leave him open.

Never claimed he was line or one dimensional fighter. Evading Gaara's sand isnt really that much of a task as like you said proven by kimimaru. And being able to react and notice it isnt hard either.[

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]. The fact that Itachi has shown greater reaction and speed feats than kimimaru only leads to the conclusion that He hardly have any trouble evading Gaaras sand.

 

[Zexion~]

Propose a premise.

Itachi uses amertarasu, Gaara blocks it using sand , then is sealed by totska immediately after

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Using amertarasu on his top defense is not wasting it .. and don't know where you got that using amertarasu means you can not dodge if your refering to the Itachi Vs Sasuke fight .. he got impaled in the leg.. pretty sure that hinders your dodgin ability

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Using Tsukuyomi ( which is less straining than Amaterasu ) left him unable to dodge two shurikens.

A wall of sand is obviously harder to avoid.