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In the recent movie, BoG, Bills states that Goku wouldn't be able to beat Freeza in his base form. I thought that Goku was the strongest Saiyan in base, meaning no Saiyan could beat Freeza in base.

That's ridiculous IMO, and there's a lot of things that contradict, and support this statement, but what's your thoughts?
 

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In the last movies Freezer got crushed by a normal form Gohan with a single hit.
I am not quite sure if he meant the base form at all.. I believe that goku hid his power..
just like he did on Namek to get that surprise effect
 

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thats not what i meant.
Then what the **** did you mean?

Which Base Goku do we speak of? Cell Arc.Base Goku, Boo Arc. Base Goku annihilates Freezer.
Bills was probably speaking of Base Goku in Freezer Arc.?
No, Bills said:

''In your current form, you wouldn't stand a chance even against Freeza''. He was in base.

And he was talking about current, BoG base Goku.
 

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Base goku was so weak compared to frezia 50%

Remember goku used kio Ken x20 20 times his normal power to equal frezia 50%

If bills couldn't sense a surpessed power level how can he call himself a god.
At that

In official power level sheet Frezia Max power was 150,000,000
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Base goku was so weak compared to frezia 50%

Remember goku used kio Ken x20 20 times his normal power to equal frezia 50%

If bills couldn't sense a surpessed power level how can he call himself a god.
At that

In official power level sheet Frezia Max power was 150,000,000
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Wtf guys, that's fake. According to Daizenshuu (official) he was only 120 million, whereas Goku was 150. Wake the **** up.
 

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Ya, for legit powerlevels and debates, check /Vegito1089 on youtube. He's owned many. Goku in base by cell games, due to immense training, should be at least on the level of SSJ Goku in Frieza Saga, it's just logical. Not to mention Kuririn trains with C18 all of the time? They're far over krillin. **** BoG, GT is ten times better and canonizing that instead of BoG would've been a much better choice.
 

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Ya, for legit powerlevels and debates, check /Vegito1089 on youtube. He's owned many. Goku in base by cell games, due to immense training, should be at least on the level of SSJ Goku in Frieza Saga, it's just logical. Not to mention Kuririn trains with C18 all of the time? They're far over krillin. **** BoG, GT is ten times better and canonizing that instead of BoG would've been a much better choice.
lol, cut by glass and struggled with building. GT is shit.
 

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lol, cut by glass and struggled with building. GT is shit.
Goku held katchin yet couldn't handle ten tons [lebronjames]
Roshi destroyed the moon yet King Piccolo exerted city busters at most [lebronjames]
Vegetas galick gun was overpowered by the kamehameha and the galick gun would have destroyed the earth, yet punches proceed to hurt characters [lebronjames]

Those aren't even half dem contradictions in dat DBZ
 

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Goku held katchin yet couldn't handle ten tons [lebronjames]
Roshi destroyed the moon yet King Piccolo exerted city busters at most [lebronjames]
Vegetas galick gun was overpowered by the kamehameha and the galick gun would have destroyed the earth, yet punches proceed to hurt characters [lebronjames]

Those aren't even half dem contradictions in dat DBZ
Katchin was never stated to be dense and extremely heavy though.
Wasn't his full power, lol.
Punches > Galick Gun?

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