Fused Momoshiki vs VOTE2 Naruto and Sasuke

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Starting distance: 40m
Intel: full
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: none

Sasuke already has the bijuus trapped in CT, and can form BPS if need be
Momoshiki has pills and has chakra absorbed till the time he fought PS-Kyuubi from his lava golem
Who wins?
 
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Assuming this is Momoshiki without pre absorbed ninjutsu. With full Intel either one can solo.Momoshiki can't absorb attacks coming from different directions at the same time .by that being said Multiple TTB used by multiple avatar clones from different directions at the same time would kil Momoshiki .As for sasuke ,PS shockwaves can't be absorbed ,therefore successive shockwaves would eliminate him , all they need to do is evading direct contact between their avatars and Momoshiki .actually Naruto and sasuke don't need their vote power ups in order to solo Momoshiki .
This guy is overrated. He is speedster in CQC ,he looked that tough only because of his ability to absorb ninjutsu .with full Intel ,he won't be that tough .
 
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VOTE 2 pretty much rekts Momo, especially if Sasuke has Bijuu Susanoo and/or Naruto has the Kyuubi Avatar.
What good is BPS or ashura avatar gonna do here?
Indras arrow and twin NE RS are just food for him and then Momoshiki retaliates with a much larger super TBB
 

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Naruto and Sasuke win. The only thing separating them and their Adult versions that makes a difference against Momo are their lower physical stats, which won't matter since that taijutsu fight in the movie accomplished nothing and was more so to see that Adult Naruto and Sasuke can keep up with him. They still have way more than the needed firepower to take him down, provided they take care of the Rinnegan first. This is full intel, meaning they won't just fire off their nukes and then get blasted by them tenfold, even though I highly doubt Momoshiki can absorb Indra's Arrow + Dual RS when his best feat is absorbing a standard TBB from B, but whatever. Since they're below their Adult versions in all physical stats, CQC isn't an option either, but 40m is enough for them not to get blitzed with a block or a half-assed reaction. After they gain some distance they simply devise the same strategy as in the movie:

1. Sasuke uses Ameno and gets behind Momoshiki
2. Momoshiki reacts and smacks him
3. The kunai in the air is Naruto's clone who either stabs the Rinnegan or cuts of the arm. Afterward Momoshiki gets raped.

And no, he won't be evading Naruto, since he failed to do so with Boruto, plus this is IC, and honestly - if a kid could do it, there's no way RSM Naruto will fail. If instead of remaining on the ground he starts spamming those creatures made from the terrain, and finally makes a lava golem, he gets one-shotted while the constructs are fodderized, especially since Ashura Avatar and BPS are above the Kurama avatar and PS used in the movie in pretty much everything.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke win. The only thing separating them and their Adult versions that makes a difference against Momo are their lower physical stats, which won't matter since that taijutsu fight in the movie accomplished nothing and was more so to see that Adult Naruto and Sasuke can keep up with him.
Taijutsu was the only option since all their ninjutsu would have been rendered useless as stated by sasuke himself.
They still have way more than the needed firepower to take him down, provided they take care of the Rinnegan first. This is full intel, meaning they won't just fire off their nukes and then get blasted by them tenfold, even though I highly doubt Momoshiki can absorb Indra's Arrow + Dual RS when his best feat is absorbing a standard TBB from B, but whatever. Since they're below their Adult versions in all physical stats, CQC isn't an option either
their adult forms are physically far superior to their VOTE forms. and if momo was matching both of them. then he clobbers both of them here in a taijutsu fight.
having BPS and ashura avatar only increases their firepower which is even worse since momo will return it back at them tenfold
and if constructs like PS and kurama avatar really worked against momo then they would have done that. and not waited to only use them against the lava golem

, but 40m is enough for them not to get blitzed with a block or a half-assed reaction. After they gain some distance they simply devise the same strategy as in the movie:

1. Sasuke uses Ameno and gets behind Momoshiki
2. Momoshiki reacts and smacks him
3. The kunai in the air is Naruto's clone who either stabs the Rinnegan or cuts of the arm. Afterward Momoshiki gets raped.

And no, he won't be evading Naruto, since he failed to do so with Boruto, plus this is IC, and honestly - if a kid could do it, there's no way RSM Naruto will fail.
they could only accomplish such thing because adult sasuke was fast enough to pressure momo such that this strategy could work.
not to mention that momo can just avoid CQC, adn just go for mid/long range combat where he nukes the hell out of them.

then theres also ST that can push them away to stop them from getting the rinnegan

If instead of remaining on the ground he starts spamming those creatures made from the terrain, and finally makes a lava golem, he gets one-shotted while the constructs are fodderized, especially since Ashura Avatar and BPS are above the Kurama avatar and PS used in the movie in pretty much everything.
intel is full, thus he knows that his summons stand no chance.
naruto and sasuke cant hurt momo if he decides to absorb their constructs, and they cant tank his attacks without them,

>ninjutsu is useless as stated in canon unless they want to get obliterrated
>taijutsu results in them getting overwhelmed.
>their physical attacks and non ninjutsu attacks are too weak to have an affect
 

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Taijutsu was the only option since all their ninjutsu would have been rendered useless as stated by sasuke himself.
Again, it did barely anything to Momoshiki besides pressuring him for a bit. Momoshiki was only close to being beaten by the physical slash of Iso Kurama, and was later truly beaten by a ninjutsu offensive move. Taijutsu makes no difference aside from prepping the field for a ninjutsu attack.

ARGUS said:
their adult forms are physically far superior to their VOTE forms. and if momo was matching both of them. then he clobbers both of them here in a taijutsu fight.
Which is why I said direct CQC isn't an option either, aside from the tactic.

ARGUS said:
having BPS and ashura avatar only increases their firepower which is even worse since momo will return it back at them tenfold
Did you even read my post? They'll only be firing those attacks after they're sure Momoshiki can't absorb them, otherwise you're saying they're idiots since your OP states this is full intel.

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and if constructs like PS and kurama avatar really worked against momo then they would have done that.
Which they did. That taijutsu fight was mostly for the show. Can you honestly say what exactly that accomplished in way of defeating Momoshiki? He managed to fend them off and then, while he was perfectly fine, started attacking with ninjutsu. Naruto and Sasuke responded and one-shotted his golem with a non-ninjutsu attack, while Momo was like this after taking an indirect slash:

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That's not a dynamic shot of him, by the way, meaning he was actually floating in the air stunned. It's when Sasuke actually devised a strategy on beating him that taijutsu started mattering, and it was all in order to allow for a ninjutsu finisher.

ARGUS said:
and not waited to only use them against the lava golem
Lol, let me ask you this: what would have made a better show, a nicely made hand-to-hand sequence to capitalize on the fact ninjutsu doesn't work, or if Sasuke just started spamming PS slashes and Naruto swinging his tails at Momo. I mean, both of those options aren't ninjutsu. Naruto and Sasuke only used their avatars to counter all the ninjutsu Momoshiki started dishing out. And then they slashed once, Momo screamed and was at the very least staggered. Afterwards, he was rejuvenated by that one guy's barrage of elemental attacks. So how does he tank multiple slashes and tail swings, exactly?

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they could only accomplish such thing because adult sasuke was fast enough to pressure momo such that this strategy could work.
Uh, no. This is what Sasuke did.

- Jumped in the air far away from Momo and threw his sword
- Momo dodged
- Sasuke warped and was smacked away

Exactly what in that short sequence counts as Sasuke pressuring Momoshiki? You're saying VoTE Sasuke is so below Adult Sasuke that he can't even throw a sword, swap with it and act as a distraction? Sasuke pressured Momoshiki when he and Naruto charged for the CQC fight, and later alone, but after the strategy he didn't even exchange a single blow with him. VoTE Sasuke also evades the chakra rods Momo shot out with relatively the same ease.

ARGUS said:
not to mention that momo can just avoid CQC, adn just go for mid/long range combat where he nukes the hell out of them.
Nukes them with what exactly? Unless you're assuming he has already absorbed some of their attacks, which won't be the case since Naruto and Sasuke know better, nothing he's displayed from the movie can attempt to bust Ashura Avatar or BPS. That, and the fact that Sasuke can warp with BPS across mountain-ranges [ =>[ ], and assuming Ashura Avatar can fly at a respectable speed, renders any of the threat left by ''nukes'' zero.

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then theres also ST that can push them away to stop them from getting the rinnegan
Even though he has never, ever displayed even a single Six Paths ability, unlike every other Rinnegan user, he can use ST now? Okay, he has two Rinnegans... on his palms. Not really accepting this. Also, even if the above weren't true, that still doesn't matter - he never used it in the movie, therefore he won't use it here. IC, remember?

ARGUS said:
intel is full, thus he knows that his summons stand no chance.
Without his summons to distract the Avatars and take the brunt of the blows how will he even handle multiple mountain-cutters coming his way?

ARGUS said:
naruto and sasuke cant hurt momo if he decides to absorb their constructs
Gonna go ahead and use your own quote: ''if absorbing their constructs really worked against Naruto and Sasuke, he would've done that". Instead of make a golem to fight, why not just insta-absorb Iso Kurama and call it a day (the fuсk did he think a punch from that thing would've done, by the way?). I know that in theory it should be possible, even though, again, I don't see how sucking up a standard TBB from B (his best absorbtion feat) is the same as absorbing gigantic avatars made from way more chakra. Point is - he never did it, or even attempted it in the movie, not to mention Momo has to get close to the Avatars to initiate the absorbtion, and good luck with that.

ARGUS said:
and they cant tank his attacks without them
The Avatars aren't going anywhere.

ARGUS said:
>ninjutsu is useless as stated in canon unless they want to get obliterrated
Already said they're gonna use it only after his left arm is neutralized. I'm not even touching up on the fact that absorbing Indra's Arrow + Dual FRS with NE from the planet is far-fetched as hell, but whatever.

ARGUS said:
their physical attacks and non ninjutsu attacks are too weak to have an affect
Even though you yourself said taijutsu was the only option, now you're saying they're too weak? Or did you mean VoTE Naruto and Sasuke's strength isn't enough? Because it wasn't enough for Adult Naruto and Sasuke either, which is what I said in my earlier quotes - that taijitsu battle accomplished and did very little to Momoshiki.

ARGUS said:
taijutsu results in them getting overwhelmed.
Their only CQC encounter that'd matter would be the strategy's execution, one short brawl would be enough for Naruto and Sasuke to know they can't match him in taijutsu, but not enough for them to get killed only by it. Sasuke then makes the same strategy, throws his sword, swaps with it, manages to distract Momoshiki long enough for Naruto to cut/impale the Rinnegan - gg. Boruto's freaking shadow clone did it. RSM Naruto is doing it no matter what. VoTE Sasuke can definitely throw his sword and use Ameno, so he can do it just as easily.

This is honestly only possible because of your conditions. You pretty much made this a perfect match for Naruto and Sasuke:

Distance: 40m - enough to not get blitzed
Intel: Full - meaning they won't get bombarded with their own attacks amplified by ten
Mindset: IC - the most important part. This literally means Momoshiki will only do what he has displayed in the movie, in that exact same way. There won't be any Shinra Tensei. There won't be any Avatar absorbtion. There won't be any ''keeping his distance and throwing nukes", lol. What you're talking about is a non-IC debate where we decide what the character does and how he does it. Unless you show me screens of IC Momoshiki throwing nukes from a distance, using techniques he never displayed or absorbing Avatars, none of that matters.

Remove any of those prerequisites and Naruto and Sasuke lose.
 
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Sasuke being physically stronger and faster than his teen self can be accepted in a way or another but naruto being superior to his teen self in that department cant be let to slide down just like this .noway Adult naruto is faster than his teen self if everything says otherwise .in the gaiden it was shown and proved that naruto's reflexes and reactions has decreased .if his reactions and reflexes has got weaker ,what makes me think that he got faster!? .then we have the undeniable fact that his chakra mode has downgraded .teen RSM Naruto's Chakra cloak is clearly superior to adult RSM naruto's regular kuarma chakra mode .teen naruto's cloak had these Rikudo senjutsu marks on his back which hagromo and jiubi jins had on thier backs .adult naruto's cloak downgrading would certainly result in slower reactions ,reflexes and speed specially that he hasnt displayed any feats disprove that being said .
 
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