Funny how Naruto

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If Sasuke had two rinnegan he'd **** up Naruto easy mode, easy, even with full Kurama.
 

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This is why you've always run away from our debates? Like the last one, or the one before that :) You took the Op's intent out of context, a character potential is his drive, resources and resolve. Naruto's is greater than sasuke's as a character. Now its was You who decided this meant taking away powers. The OP meant ( I will space this out for you)

Kurama did not give naruto drive or did he cause him to be more than what he is, as such is greater than sasuke.

EVEN with kurama Naruto succeeded and kept up with him. Once you decided this was a powers thing... OP and I tried to put things in perspective if you take away things you take away from the other side of the equation... just like algebra. It was you who did not understand the scope of the argument. Did you really think this was a uneven debate, is this what fueled you?

It was cute of you to insult everyone, I feel bad for you, you sad boy.

Thank you, you're literally the only one who got the point of this thread. And you also forgot to add ambition to the list :)
 

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Drive means nothing without talent and power. Naruto cannot will himself stronger. If that were true, Lee would be the strongest character in the manga right now.

You and the OP are setting the guidelines, then getting rustled when I follow them. Make up your mind. Give me some valid criteria.

Drive means nothing without talent and power? Funny how you say that but in part 1 Lee owned Sasuke neg diff. And Naruto beat Neji in part one as well.
 

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Drive means nothing without talent and power? Funny how you say that but in part 1 Lee owned Sasuke neg diff. And Naruto beat Neji in part one as well.

1. Because sasuke was a rookie

2. Because naruto has nine tails pet since chapter 1
 

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1. Because sasuke was a rookie

2. Because naruto has nine tails pet since chapter 1

And? Sasuke still had talent, and was considered elite among the k11. And Lee had no talent, but he had drive and ambition and solo'd him. Same thing with Neji and Naruto. Naruto didn't use the nine tails in his fight against Neji. And on a regular basis Neji would've destroyed him, but after what he did to Hinata, Naruto had a drive he never had before and beat Neji. Same can be said for Kakashi and Gai. Kakashi is only up there now because of Obito. I won't lie though, I give credit when it's due and Kakashi was born with natural talent, he even belittled Gai when they were kids, and we all know for a fact that without sharingan Gai>Kakashi. Like I said before Drive, and potential can be greater than natural talent.

EDIT- SO6P younger son > SO6P older son
 

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And? Sasuke still had talent, and was considered elite among the k11. And Lee had no talent, but he had drive and ambition and solo'd him. Same thing with Neji and Naruto. Naruto didn't use the nine tails in his fight against Neji. And on a regular basis Neji would've destroyed him, but after what he did to Hinata, Naruto had a drive he never had before and beat Neji. Same can be said for Kakashi and Gai. Kakashi is only up there now because of Obito. I won't lie though, I give credit when it's due and Kakashi was born with natural talent, he even belittled Gai when they were kids, and we all know for a fact that without sharingan Gai>Kakashi. Like I said before Drive, and potential can be greater than natural talent.

EDIT- SO6P younger son > SO6P older son

1. Sasky >>>>>>>> lee very easily(no drive needed)

2. Naruto got soloed by neji hard. Nine tails chakra kicked in allowing naruto to solo even naruto was essentially weaker than a chunk of wood

3. Kakashi > guy. Unless guy wanted to go Taliban on kakashi

4. Anyday: Genius >>>> no good

Kishi's taste of the end: Ashura = indra

Kishi's taste of the whole time: indra >>>>>>> ashura
 

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No, they both aren't full potential.

Sasuke's One Sharinnegan

And Naruto's Half Yin Kyuubi
 

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Funny how you say "naruto's" potential but it's actually kurama supplying him with that power hahaha another failed attempt at damage control by another nardo chode rider
 

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It is stated that the rinnegan has the potential to learn all jutsus . you cant beat that



That Rinnegan wasn't nagato's and you were talking about potential right? no need to get on defense

yet a naruto has almost every element and can even use 4 elements at once (TSB) something rinnagan cant do. so naruto can essentially learn every jutsu to
 
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