Full power Nagato still a mystery

Bogard

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Reaction score
2,378
We have never seen Nagato fight on his own besides his little skirmich against Hanzo when he was younger. The fact he lost his legs also forced him to fight through other bodies and since Obito was restricted in the use of paths when controlling jinchurikis according to Kakashi, its possible it was the case of Nagato as well eventhough they were normal dead humans especially when you know he could only use some techniques(Chibaku tensei for example) dependant on the distance between him and his puppets.

And connsidering the fact it has been stated that Madara as an Edo tensei had a fake Rinnengan not allowing him to use the full potential of the eyes like summoning the Gedo Mazo or using the Ringo hengoku for example, I think its safe to assume that Edo Naga to had a fake Rinnengan as well(the real one hid by Obi to) and thus was heavily restricted in his Rinnengan moves just like Madara was.

Jiraya even stated he could use any ninjutsu he wanted at the age of 10 like he managed to master every techniques Jiraya showed him

So in the end the full power of Naga to remains unknown by us and maybe was capable to use other Rinnengan techniques(like Rinbo hengoku and so on) than what we have seen. Too bad we never got the chance to see him fighting on his own and at full strength let alone with mobility
 

Peace Maker

Banned
Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2011
Messages
2,724
Reaction score
166
Thats his full power. As you see. On the leaf invasion he was having a hard tike breathing and he was lack of chakra after he tried to make the chibaku tensei.
 

Raekwon26

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
May 15, 2013
Messages
5,263
Reaction score
422
Hmmmm, I never thought about it like that.

Could be true.
 

The Sach

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
17,360
Reaction score
1,197
Actually you are correct, and I somewhat agree, but I doubt if Nagato had fake rinnegan, because Madara himself said that he passed down his rinnegan to someone else, and need a sharingan eye(when he had talk with kid Obito in that hideout of his).
Nagato probably didn't know about Rinbo Hengoku, as nobody except Madara is shown to know about it(including Obito).
 

Bogard

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Reaction score
2,378
Actually you are correct, and I somewhat agree, but I doubt if Nagato had fake rinnegan, because Madara himself said that he passed down his rinnegan to someone else, and need a sharingan eye(when he had talk with kid Obito in that hideout of his).
Nagato probably didn't know about Rinbo Hengoku, as nobody except Madara is shown to know about it(including Obito).
The eyes were passed down to Naga to, then were passed down to Obi to like black Zetsu mentioned himself 2chapters ago. There can't be 2pairs of Rinnengan. Obi to has the real so obviously Nagatos were fake
 

Waltz

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Messages
9,979
Reaction score
1,256
Hmmm...

What the Biju said about Madara's Rin'negan as an Edo Tensei isn't actually credible as they were only speculating on the situation, when in truth it may just have been that Madara would have had no reason to summon the Mazou as an Edo Tensei due to the fact that he cannot host the Juubi as a moving corpse. To say Madara's Rin'negan was "restricted" in any sense is also fallacious as his aim was not a "Showing of Jutsu"----he was solely focused on resuscitating and hosting the Shinju. In Edo-Nagato's case,Kabuto lacked sufficient knowledge on the Rin'negan to utilize his jutsu as efficient as possible.

You must be registered for see images

Though I am not sure why you say Nagato's "Full Power" is a mystery when we have already seen the apex of his power; that is, The Samsara's potential in terms of the Six realms of existence. It may just be the case that Nagato's and Obito's use of the Rin'negan may have been limited to their knowledge on Rikudo Jutsu as what they know individually is limited to what ever Information Madara would have relayed to Obito.

You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:

Anonn

Banned
Veteran
Joined
Jan 16, 2013
Messages
4,265
Reaction score
676
The eyes were passed down to Naga to, then were passed down to Obi to like black Zetsu mentioned himself 2chapters ago. There can't be 2pairs of Rinnengan. Obi to has the real so obviously Nagatos were fake

No.. The rinnegan Obito took were from Nagato: Obito vs Konan > Find nagato's body for rinnegan.
 

KingHashirama

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jun 30, 2012
Messages
27,280
Reaction score
1,690
I. Can literally claim this for even fodder shinobi...
 

The Sach

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
17,360
Reaction score
1,197
The eyes were passed down to Naga to, then were passed down to Obi to like black Zetsu mentioned himself 2chapters ago. There can't be 2pairs of Rinnengan. Obi to has the real so obviously Nagatos were fake
Nah you aren't getting my point there, Madara first passed down the real rinnegan eyes to Nagato.
When Nagato died Obito took the eyes and then implanted them in him.
So Edo Nagato had fake pair and not alive Nagato.
Therefore before 2 chapters Zetsu said so, as at that moment Obito had them.:yeah:
 

NOemotions

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Aug 18, 2011
Messages
3,742
Reaction score
201
There are reasons kishi made him lost hes mobility in early age + made him so traumatized (every person dont react to peoples death's like nagato did ) clearminded + working mobility nagato would be too much to ppl to handle in 1v1 or even multiply opponents.
 

Pirate King

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 9, 2013
Messages
5,422
Reaction score
579
Nagato was a freaking beast yo

He was kicking naruto and bees ass like it was nothing

Healthy Nagato is OP

That's why Kishi nerfed his ass :(
 

KingHashirama

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jun 30, 2012
Messages
27,280
Reaction score
1,690
Madara never got the chance to summon the gedo......as an edo....obito was defeated when madara got restrained.
 

Xāvî1

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Apr 13, 2011
Messages
23,665
Reaction score
1,415
Nagato is really a badass the only person capable of going head on with uchiha madara or senju hashirma
 

Bogard

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Reaction score
2,378
Hmmm...

What the Biju said about Madara's Rin'negan as an Edo Tensei isn't actually credible as they were only speculating on the situation, when in truth it may just have been that Madara would have had no reason to summon the Mazou as an Edo Tensei due to the fact that he cannot host the Juubi as a moving corpse. To say Madara's Rin'negan was "restricted" in any sense is also fallacious as his aim was not a "Showing of Jutsu"----he was solely focused on resuscitating and hosting the Shinju. In Edo-Nagato's case,Kabuto lacked sufficient knowledge on the Rin'negan to utilize his jutsu as efficient as possible.

You must be registered for see images

Though I am not sure why you say Nagato's "Full Power" is a mystery when we have already seen the apex of his power; that is, The Samsara's potential in terms of the Six realms of existence. It may just be the case that Nagato's and Obito's use of the Rin'negan may have been limited to their knowledge on Rikudo Jutsu as what they know individually is limited to what ever Information Madara would have relayed to Obito.

You must be registered for see images
Pretty sure the statement can from Kishimotos perspective as a message for us readers. No need to overcomplicate statements
 

Touken

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 3, 2013
Messages
4,499
Reaction score
245
I'd say Nagato's full power would have been him in his healthy state using Chibaku Tensei.

Hanzo crippled his legs and the Mazo sucked the life force out of him so he had less chakra than his prime, so he could have made an even bigger Chibaku Tensei than the one Naruto broke out of.

A healthy Nagato (who isn't controlled by Kabuto) would be scary tbh.
 

Waltz

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Messages
9,979
Reaction score
1,256
It wasn't a statement, Bogard.

You must be registered for see images
 

Bogard

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Reaction score
2,378
It wasn't a statement, Bogard.

You must be registered for see images
The debate around Edo tensei fake rinnengan capabilities is for us to understand its restricted to certain moves like the inability to summon gedo maz
 

Waltz

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Messages
9,979
Reaction score
1,256
It was never stated that he he cannot summon the Mazou as an Edo tensei or that The Rin'negan is restricted in the case of Edo-Tensei. There is a vast difference between "question" and "statement".
 

VongolaX

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jul 28, 2012
Messages
17,132
Reaction score
630
Nagato used the full extent of his ability...

Nagato didn't posses uchiha power, but he did the eyes, so he can only use the rikudou Justus shown.

Obito was taught how to use the rikudou technique without the rinnegan only (uchiha and senju), but via black rod/staff (MS Obito).

So his six path Justus are the same as Nagato, but with the full power of the rinnegan, you need senju and uchiha blood with the ocular prowess (Madara/Rinnegan Obito).
 
Top