full kurama

[UzumakiRyu]

Nagato would have killed Bee and naruto easily without itachi. Pein was half exhausted in the fight due to his battle with jiryia and using his God-push to destroy the village, and still managed to beat 6 tailed naruto. Sasuke has a rinnigan with 6 tomoes. It would not be an issue at all for Sasuke once he masters his rinnigan due to that fact alone, that pein, who just had normal rinnigan, wrecked naruto and he was not even at full power or full health.

Anyone can play the what if game easily like What if Naruto hadn't tripped in 698 and had his attack landed what would of happened to Sasuke? And plenty of points could be said like What if Sasuke's Chidori attack that he did in the beginning of VoTe 2 had actually hit Naruto would would of happened then? It's no use playing that sort of game because it lead's to many possibilities...

Sasuke even with a mastered Rinnegan isn't much having seen Naruto and Sasuke face oppononent's with power beyond that so that isn't saying much at the same time Naruto once he train's more with Kurama and they become a team like Bee and the Hachibe then a Sasuke who has mastered his Rinnegan wouldn't be the one sided match you seem to think it would become...

Naruto destroyed one of the 6 path's of pein just minutes after arriving on the battlefield the same 6th path's that are suppose to have no weakness in term's of blindspots and this is only naruto after finishing his SM training.

Though Sasuke's Rinnegan is new and only in a single eye and once he master's it, it does not detract from the fact Naruto has experience facing Rinnegan user's Master's or Not this is a very good thing for him having faced the Rinnegan in several situations and so has the experience to counter it best then most other's.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Anyone can play the what if game easily like What if Naruto hadn't tripped in 698 and had his attack landed what would of happened to Sasuke? And plenty of points could be said like What if Sasuke's Chidori attack that he did in the beginning of VoTe 2 had actually hit Naruto would would of happened then? It's no use playing that sort of game because it lead's to many possibilities...

Sasuke even with a mastered Rinnegan isn't much having seen Naruto and Sasuke face oppononent's with power beyond that so that isn't saying much at the same time Naruto once he train's more with Kurama and they become a team like Bee and the Hachibe then a Sasuke who has mastered his Rinnegan wouldn't be the one sided match you seem to think it would become...

Naruto destroyed one of the 6 path's of pein just minutes after arriving on the battlefield the same 6th path's that are suppose to have no weakness in term's of blindspots and this is only naruto after finishing his SM training.

Though Sasuke's Rinnegan is new and only in a single eye and once he master's it, it does not detract from the fact Naruto has experience facing Rinnegan user's Master's or Not this is a very good thing for him having faced the Rinnegan in several situations and so has the experience to counter it best then most other's.

See, that's the thing, Nagato had ALL Rinnigan powers, and was going to kill the both of them if Itachi did not step in. Naruto was very thankful and relieved for Itachi's interference.

Anyway, Pein was EXHAUSTED dude, he was weakened by the time he fought naruto. So we cannot use that as something to prove narutos feats here, despite how awesome that fight was.

Kakashi defeated 2 Peins by himself with his chidori, EVERYONE acknowledges that, especially me, because I am a huge Kakashi fan as well as a Madara and Itach fan, so Kakashi weakened Pein further for Naruto to combat. I understand your point of view, but Pein >> Naruto at full power. At half power, Pein >/= Naruto sage mode. Jiryia did the most damage, followed by Peins own attack on the village, which admittedly weakened him as shown, to the point he was coughing up blood and yet was still able to seal 6 tail naruto at half or less, power.

Sasuke was just getting USED to his Rinnigan over the course of about 8 hours or so before facing naruto, and he did VERY WELL for someone whom had just gotten the Rinnigan and was just getting used to using all of its techs. So if Sasule had the time to train and such, he would had WREAKED the battlefield.

 

[sn0wy]

He didn't say every last bit, he just said the last that is available.

People are making a big deal out of something insignificant, Kurama is tired so he is going to sleep to recover, like every other being does.

Also if Kurama is no longer inside of Naruto then Naruto would die. As you can see he was still standing when he got the chakra, so Kurama is still inside of him.

I think this could be something we have never seen before or is never happened. Maybe if the bijug gives his entire chakra away you don't die because his entire chakra is completely yours. Therefore if he owned it all he wouldn't have to die for losing. Iono he prolly is just sleeping but why would he say that when I haven't seen another case of this happening.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Not really the case, Kabuto wanted both alive so he wasn't going to kill them.

Seeing the way Pein moved during his fight with Kurama and the way he moved I wouldn't exactly call it exhaustion, now Nagato is the one who is alway's tired and sick I guess kinda like Itachi in a way even there is no reason to assume that path got destroyed because he was "Exhausted" why? If he was tired how did he pull of a CT so large that envoloped Kurama and was so large?

Kakashi is resourceful and is the Master of using what he has to the utmost limit's.

Not really and it's pretty ignorant to assume that, Juubi Madara everyone put him on a throne and he was no different he got wrecked.

I wouldn't agree with him doing well, he plainly told everyone he had all the abilities of the Rinnegan used he failed to use them and the one's he did use were best suited in other situations like absorbing Naruto's previous attack's before their Indra arrow / 2 RS attack.

Depends on the battlefield and the people he's facing...Like if it's a second match with Naruto and both trained after next week for the 2 year period then that's just opinion's and what if's really.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Not really the case, Kabuto wanted both alive so he wasn't going to kill them.

Seeing the way Pein moved during his fight with Kurama and the way he moved I wouldn't exactly call it exhaustion, now Nagato is the one who is alway's tired and sick I guess kinda like Itachi in a way even there is no reason to assume that path got destroyed because he was "Exhausted" why? If he was tired how did he pull of a CT so large that envoloped Kurama and was so large?

Kakashi is resourceful and is the Master of using what he has to the utmost limit's.

Not really and it's pretty ignorant to assume that, Juubi Madara everyone put him on a throne and he was no different he got wrecked.

I wouldn't agree with him doing well, he plainly told everyone he had all the abilities of the Rinnegan used he failed to use them and the one's he did use were best suited in other situations like absorbing Naruto's previous attack's before their Indra arrow / 2 RS attack.

Depends on the battlefield and the people he's facing...Like if it's a second match with Naruto and both trained after next week for the 2 year period then that's just opinion's and what if's really.

Leave it to you to point everyones epicness in this big post revolved around naruto. Haha ;P

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Leave it to you to point everyones epicness in this big post revolved around naruto. Haha ;P

Everyone need's to use references and example's in these situations so that certain thing's aren't assumed and power and abilities aren't over exaggerated

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Everyone need's to use references and example's in these situations so that certain thing's aren't assumed and power and abilities aren't over exaggerated

Hahaha, yes indeed. Keep rocking it bro xD

 

[Ultimateone]

See, that's the thing, Nagato had ALL Rinnigan powers, and was going to kill the both of them if Itachi did not step in. Naruto was very thankful and relieved for Itachi's interference.

Anyway, Pein was EXHAUSTED dude, he was weakened by the time he fought naruto. So we cannot use that as something to prove narutos feats here, despite how awesome that fight was.

Kakashi defeated 2 Peins by himself with his chidori, EVERYONE acknowledges that, especially me, because I am a huge Kakashi fan as well as a Madara and Itach fan, so Kakashi weakened Pein further for Naruto to combat. I understand your point of view, but Pein >> Naruto at full power. At half power, Pein >/= Naruto sage mode. Jiryia did the most damage, followed by Peins own attack on the village, which admittedly weakened him as shown, to the point he was coughing up blood and yet was still able to seal 6 tail naruto at half or less, power.

Sasuke was just getting USED to his Rinnigan over the course of about 8 hours or so before facing naruto, and he did VERY WELL for someone whom had just gotten the Rinnigan and was just getting used to using all of its techs. So if Sasule had the time to train and such, he would had WREAKED the battlefield.

you realize that when pain attacked the village it had been a while since he had fought jiraiya. sowhat happened in that fight shouldn't even be considered. also, i wouldn't call pain exhausted in his fight against sage naruto. sure he had fought a little in the village, but the only people who actually gave him problems was kakashi and choji's dad. everybody else was getting wrecked. konohamaru got one body, but that was lucky. now pain did use the shinra tensie to destroy the village, but that only set him back a little bit.

when naruto started using kurama in that fight though, pain was outmatched. the only thing that could even do a little something was chibaku tensie, and naruto/kurama was breaking out of that. when nagato was revived you have to look at the circumstances. sure nagato had caught naruto and bee, but naruto didn't really want to fight him. he also was still getting used to his new found power. comparing what he eventually became to that level is not right. considering pain had mastered the rennigan for the most part means he should do that to naruto who had just unlocked that power.

now compare that to naruto who will get full kurama plus the power he already had versus sasuke mastered rennigan. for all we know it's just the same abilities as the other rennigan just with that s/t jutsu he has. let me say this, had both naruto and sasuke been fresh when they had there final battle, this fight probably would have went a different way. with that in mind, give naruto the chance to actually master his abilities and the rennigan doesn't really match up as much. in my opinion anyways.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I doubt they can merge back together.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

I doubt they can merge back together.

Then I guess he will be housing them both lmao.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Then I guess he will be housing them both lmao.

Why would naruto do that? The only reason I can think of naruto wanting to do that is just for more power. But naruto doesnt care about power so its unlikely.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

you realize that when pain attacked the village it had been a while since he had fought jiraiya. sowhat happened in that fight shouldn't even be considered. also, i wouldn't call pain exhausted in his fight against sage naruto. sure he had fought a little in the village, but the only people who actually gave him problems was kakashi and choji's dad. everybody else was getting wrecked. konohamaru got one body, but that was lucky. now pain did use the shinra tensie to destroy the village, but that only set him back a little bit.

WRONG, it was directly after he fought Jiryia. He immediately went onto the attack, and was EXHAUSTED afterwards.




when naruto started using kurama in that fight though, pain was outmatched. the only thing that could even do a little something was chibaku tensie, and naruto/kurama was breaking out of that. when nagato was revived you have to look at the circumstances. sure nagato had caught naruto and bee, but naruto didn't really want to fight him. he also was still getting used to his new found power. comparing what he eventually became to that level is not right. considering pain had mastered the rennigan for the most part means he should do that to naruto who had just unlocked that power.

now compare that to naruto who will get full kurama plus the power he already had versus sasuke mastered rennigan. for all we know it's just the same abilities as the other rennigan just with that s/t jutsu he has. let me say this, had both naruto and sasuke been fresh when they had there final battle, this fight probably would have went a different way. with that in mind, give naruto the chance to actually master his abilities and the rennigan doesn't really match up as much. in my opinion anyways.

Nice theory, but Pein was already weakened... Pein Weaknened > full power Naruto. We do not know Sasuke's full abilities, especially because he is just getting used to the Rinngan within 1-2 days tops of having it, using it, and trying to figure out its power.

Pein easily sealed 6 tails naruto in the manga, he had a mid level difficulty in dealing with him. Sasuke with training and mastering his higher power rinnigan >>> Nagatos. Which means that Sasuke can steal, block, and use any and all of his opponents powers.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Why would naruto do that? The only reason I can think of naruto wanting to do that is just for more power. But naruto doesnt care about power so its unlikely.

if that's your reason for him wanting both then you sir know nothing about Naruto...

 

[Seventh Sama]

if that's your reason for him wanting both then you sir know nothing about Naruto...

So he cares about power then? Didn't know naruto was indra. Lol
He might as well seal all the bijuu in him too.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

So he cares about power then? Didn't know naruto was indra. Lol
He might as well seal all the bijuu in him too.

Huh quote me where I said anything about him caring a thing for power?

To me If Naruto would have them both sealed and formed back together as one is because they pretty much a part of him and S06P Hago tasked Kurama with staying with Naruto and protecting him and this task means both Yin and Yang since Naruto has already toned down the hatred of Yang Kurama and Yin is a gift from his father then it would only be common sense for them to become one again.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Huh quote me where I said anything about him caring a thing for power?

Well, Your threads premise is naruto getting the other half of kurama for nothing but power. Give me a reason why he should have both? One kurama inside him is good enough.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Well, Your threads premise is naruto getting the other half of kurama for nothing but power. Give me a reason why he should have both? One kurama inside him is good enough.

Get your eye's checked I didn't create this thread I'm only defending the thing's I see I should, I already gave you a reason you should read above and then update your post.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Get your eye's checked I didn't create this thread I'm only defending the thing's I see I should, I already gave you a reason you should read above and then update your post.

I didn't see your edit while I posted that :|
But anyways whatever, we'll see in the last movie who's right.

 

[Meowazziel]

Im talking about how evenly they fought when naruto has had only half. but since hes got full kurama, naruto and sasuke would no longer end up on equal balance of power

If Naruto gets more bijou powers and Sasuke loses his bijou Susanoo, than Sasuke could maybe gain more mastery at using his Rinnegan.

Even so, does it matter much if they are not equal in power anymore in the movie?

 

[FreeTanner17]

What I want to know is if Naruto can still fly in the last and if he will be using kurama mode