Ftg=Speed!!

[shelke]

^ I am counting Body-Flicker. I am not saying he isn't fast - he's one of the fastest on-foot characters - but he doesn't beat these. Bee even reacted to V2 Ae's Lariat in Base Form. His reaction rates are off the charts. Itachi was engaged in CQC with two Jins without getting a scratch. Sasuke evaded a massive explosion in a heart-beat.

Madara in base and Obito also need no validation. Madara in Base left SM Naruto in dust and Obito was keeping up with KCM and BM Naruto just fine. While he is fast, he isn't faster than these.

 

[Penguin]

^ I am counting Body-Flicker. I am not saying he isn't fast - he's one of the fastest on-foot characters - but he doesn't beat these. Bee even reacted to V2 Ae's Lariat in Base Form. His reaction rates are off the charts. Itachi was engaged in CQC with two Jins without getting a scratch. Sasuke evaded a massive explosion in a heart-beat.

Madara in base and Obito also need no validation. Madara in Base left SM Naruto in dust and Obito was keeping up with KCM and BM Naruto just fine. While he is fast, he isn't faster than these.

Minato's shunshin >= KCM Naruto's shunshin bro.

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Minato's shunshin is pretty damn fast. Itachi is not anywhere close to Minato's shunshin speed.

 

[shelke]

^ A legless Kisame? Come on! His feat in regards to Rakage was never repeated. He was getting smacked around by the Jins against Obito and Obito himself as well. Mind you, Sasuke on foot kept up with this guy and reacted on twice occasions faster than KCM Minato.

I'm afraid, I don't agree.

 

[Valhorus]

^ A legless Kisame? Come on! His feat in regards to Rakage was never repeated. He was getting smacked around by the Jins against Obito and Obito himself as well. Mind you, Sasuke on foot kept up with this guy and reacted on twice occasions faster than KCM Minato.

I'm afraid, I don't agree.

Really ? Comparing Itachi and Sasuke's to Minato's Shunshin ? Even you must admit they are not even close to Minato .

 

[shelke]

^ Can I see feats that put him well above them? I can post others or point out towards them.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

^ Can I see feats that put him well above them? I can post others or point out towards them.

When itachi crosses the distance of the entire leaf village plus the outskirts before kurama can fire an already charged tbb. I'll believe you.

 

[shelke]

^ Tell me when he does so on panel. He's shown in his house - you have no idea where he resided. Then Obito is shown summoning, Kurama wrecked havoc a bit, and then Minato appears.

In fact, there is a building right on top of the Carved out faces -

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. So, all speculation.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

^ Tell me when he does so on panel. He's shown in his house - you have no idea where he resided. Then Obito is shown summoning, Kurama wrecked havoc a bit, and then Minato appears.

In fact, there is a building right on top of the Carved out faces -

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. So, all speculation.

The stone faces are in the village, to be more precise the edge of the village.

Hiruzen and co forced kurama out of the village.

When minato returned to the village(on top of stone faces )Kurama charged a tbb. Minato body flickers to kurama then summons gamabunta to restrain kurama.

No speculation.

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[shelke]

^ You have no idea when he summoned Bunta. You have no idea whether he used FTG or not, given that his Kunais are littered at the outskirts of the village. It is speculation.

 

[Valhorus]

^ I even posted a scan for the building. Again, speculation. Won't repeat myself.

He is talking about the distance between the face and Kurama ..........

 

[Rainbow Dash]

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[BenjerminGaye]

^ You have no idea when he summoned Bunta. You have no idea whether he used FTG or not, given that his Kunais are littered at the outskirts of the village. It is speculation.

At bold: it says summoning technique in the scan.
The rest: U wanna prove that he used ftg? Show me a kunai in that scan.

 

[shelke]

^ Do you have any idea whether it wasn't FTG or not, given the Kunais placement at the outskirts of the village? Can you state so with utmost certainty? No you cannot. Anyhow, I don't agree, so this is my final reply on this matter.

P.s: It's also impossible that no one saw the Guy summon. When regardless of FTG or Body-Flicker, Summoning requires blood from the user and slapping the hand on the ground - Sasuke did so in air as well - to summon the creature to the exact same spot. People saw Bunta appear but not Hokage before it, also proves to me that the summoning couldn't have happened on that location -

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As I said, regardless of how he got there - FTG or Body-Flicker - he couldn't have summoned anything without a lull in fast-motion. The fact that no one saw the guy until Bunta appears is a dent in this logic that he Body-flickered and then summoned Bunta there without ever appearing before several people.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

^ Do you have any idea whether it wasn't FTG or not, given the Kunais placement at the outskirts of the village? Can you state so with utmost certainty? No you cannot. Anyhow, I don't agree, so this is my final reply on this matter.

Yes.
The only technique he used was summoning for gamabunta, as shown in the scan.
You claim he used ftg but you can't prove it. All you have is useless conjecture. So you try to push burden of proof on me via "absence of evidence=/= evidence of absence" but I already proved all he used was summoning.

 

[Valhorus]

^ Do you have any idea whether it wasn't FTG or not, given the Kunais placement at the outskirts of the village? Can you state so with utmost certainty? No you cannot. Anyhow, I don't agree, so this is my final reply on this matter.

P.s: It's also impossible that no one saw the Guy summon. When regardless of FTG or Body-Flicker, Summoning requires blood from the user and slapping the hand on the ground - Sasuke did so in air as well - to summon the creature to the exact same spot. People saw Bunta appear but not Hokage before it, also proves to me that the summoning couldn't have happened on that location -

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As I said, regardless of how he got there - FTG or Body-Flicker - he couldn't have summoned anything without a lull in fast-motion. The fact that no one saw the guy until Bunta appears is a dent in this logic that he Body-flickered and then summoned Bunta there without ever appearing before several people.

Full speculations ? Summoning req an ground contact ? How did Naruto summoned bunta for the first time ? Excuse the shinobis that didnt saw Minato coming from the sky . You are the one who need to prove . On the scan it says Summoning tech which means he summoned at that time . You just lost this discussion and went away.

 

[shelke]

Summoning requires blood from the user and slapping the hand on the ground - Sasuke did so in air as well .

 

[BenjerminGaye]

P.s: It's also impossible that no one saw the Guy summon.

no one claimed that but you. You can't even prove that claim.

When regardless of FTG or Body-Flicker, Summoning requires blood from the user and slapping the hand on the ground - Sasuke did so in air as well - to summon the creature to the exact same spot.

How can you claim what's bolded but then go on to say sasuke is an exception. Naruto did it too if I may add but it's clear that's just you fanboying to the point of contradicting yourself. Nothing new.

People saw Bunta appear but not Hokage before it, also proves to me that the summoning couldn't have happened on that location

actually ppl acknowledged the fourth not bunta.

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As I said, regardless of how he got there - FTG or Body-Flicker - he couldn't have summoned anything without a lull in fast-motion. The fact that no one saw the guy until Bunta appears is a dent in this logic that he Body-flickered and then summoned Bunta there without ever appearing before several people.

you're just repeating all the crap you said before.

So much for final replies.