FTG owns Tsukiyomi

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Minato gets caught in Tsukiyomi becuase he faces Itachi for the first time in his life while not knowing not to look into Itachi's eyes. Now Minato trapped in Tsukiyomi, Itachi comes to cut him with a kunai, Minato Sensei FTG's to another location in the genjutsu.
Um, you do realise that Minato has no control over Itachi once he is under a genjutsu right? Itachi himself said that only those with Uchiha DNA can counter Tsukyomi by themselves (I'm not counting Jinchurikis because you can technically say there are two people, the jinchuriki and the tailed beast):



It's Itachi's genjutsu, so Itachi can create whatever illusion he wants inside it. Minato has no way he can break it and I seriously doubt he can do whatever he wants in there.

As a result, the rest of your post is invalid because you're assuming that Minato can do what he wants in Tsukyomi, which I highly doubt he can. Look at what he did to Kakashi:




Basically the rest of what you wrote sounded like fanfiction tbh.

Also, you just made up Minato's stamina as it's not in the databook. It's true that Itachi has low stamina, but if a sick Itachi can do Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo in a single fight, I'm sure he can do a simple Tsukyomi.
 

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if minato got caught in Tsukunomi Itachi would have his way with him,
the only way minato can do anything in Itachi's Tsukunomi is if Minato casts a genjutsu inside of it
like Sasuke did.
I don't think Minato can do anything because of what Itachi said here:



Thus far, I believe what Itachi says because the only person who has managed to counter Tsuykyomi completely by themselves is Sasuke. Minato is not an Uchiha so I don't think he will be able to do anything.
 

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I don't think Minato can do anything because of what Itachi said here:



Thus far, I believe what Itachi says because the only person who has managed to counter Tsuykyomi completely by themselves is Sasuke. Minato is not an Uchiha so I don't think he will be able to do anything.
then u kinda agree with me then:) but if another genjutsu was strong enough,, i believe it could break Tsukunomi
whether or not it was a sharingan jutsu or not
 

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Minato gets caught in Tsukiyomi becuase he faces Itachi for the first time in his life while not knowing not to look into Itachi's eyes. Now Minato trapped in Tsukiyomi, Itachi comes to cut him with a kunai, Minato Sensei FTG's to another location in the genjutsu. Itachi comes there to, Minato FTG's again to another location. itachi is fuc8ing angry. He turns the genjutsu such that the ground in the feet of Minato rises up and Minato's feet are trapped in the ground. Now Itachi takes a sigh of relief and when he is about to give pain to Minato in the genjutsu, Sensei Minato FTG's again to another location and Itachi is Mind-Fuc*ed. In short any scenario created by Itachi to give pain to Minato or injure him in the Genjutsu, Minato just FTG's himself to different places inside the Genjutsu. As girly Itachi is always low on stamina (i've provided the proof of his low stamina at the end) and cannot use MS/Tsukiyomi for a long period of time, he is forced to give up his genjutsu and cancel it bringing Minato back from the Genjutsu. Now Minato is back and he .... i don't think i need to explain the rape scene that happens next ;) (if you know what i mean ;) )

Proofs :
1. Itachi low stamina
Data book fact
Minato Stamina

Itachi Stamina score = 2.5
Minato Stamina score = 5

2. Itachi cannot use his eyes for long MS/Tsukiyomi

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then u kinda agree with me then:) but if another genjutsu was strong enough,, i believe it could break Tsukunomi
whether or not it was a sharingan jutsu or not
I agree with you saying Itachi will have his way with Minato if he is cast under Tsukyomi, but I don't agree that Minato can cast a genjutsu while cast in Tsukyomi for two reasons:

1. Minato is not an Uchiha.

2. Minato has actually never displayed any form of Genjutsu thus far.
 

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I agree with you saying Itachi will have his way with Minato if he is cast under Tsukyomi, but I don't agree that Minato can cast a genjutsu while cast in Tsukyomi for two reasons:
1. Minato is not an Uchiha.
2. Minato has actually never displayed any form of Genjutsu thus far.
thats my point, but if a genjutsu was strong enough,(sharingan or not) i believe it could break Tsukunomi
 

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thats my point, but if a genjutsu was strong enough,(sharingan or not) i believe it could break Tsukunomi
I disagree, Itachi claims that no one can resist his Tsukyomi:



The only people I've seen who have sucessfully countered it are Jinchirikis or Uchihas.

Itachi can create any kind of world in Tsukyomi, he can make it such that Minato or anyone else can't do anything:



Look at what he did to Kakashi:

 

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I disagree, Itachi claims that no one can resist his Tsukyomi:



The only people I've seen who have sucessfully countered it are Jinchirikis or Uchihas.

Itachi can create any kind of world in Tsukyomi, he can make it such that Minato or anyone else can't do anything:



Look at what he did to Kakashi:

itachi claims that since no one ever had...and because like kabuto said
itachi never told the truth when he was alive:)
 

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i disagree, itachi claims that no one can resist his tsukyomi:



the only people i've seen who have sucessfully countered it are jinchirikis or uchihas.

Itachi can create any kind of world in tsukyomi, he can make it such that minato or anyone else can't do anything:



look at what he did to kakashi:

your 1st point might not be true because in that time period itachi also claimed that even if he and kisame togathere attacked jiraiya they wud still loose and we all know that's not true.
 

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your 1st point might not be true because in that time period itachi also claimed that even if he and kisame togathere attacked jiraiya they wud still loose and we all know that's not true.
itachi claims that since no one ever had...and because like kabuto said
itachi never told the truth when he was alive:)
thats right , Itachi told lies before , why wouldnt he tell more lies:)
It's true Itachi told lies, but I doubt he lied about every single thing. So far, what Itachi said about Tsukyomi is true, I've only seen Sasuke counter it completely by himself.

Naruto knows it's not a wise idea not to fight it alone:



And where did Naruto learn it from? From Lady Chiyo



And that was just from a Normal Sharingan.

Because Kakashi then says that a Mangekyo Sharingan is even worst and it pretty much can't be cancelled.



I really don't see Itachi lying about Tsukyomi tbh.
 

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minato knows not to look at an uchiha's eyes when they can cast genjutsu, proven when he removed tobi's seal from kurama and avterd his gaze. that and teleportation is enough to make tsukuyomi useless. and it's not as instant as people like to think either. that said, no minato cannot teleport out of tsukuyomi, or break it. tank it, it's possible given that the strongest victim of tsukuyomi was part one kakashi who wasn't really that strong next to the big guns, and even he didn't get knocked out immediately.
^^ all spectualtion right here as well as delibratley forgetting that kakshis sharingan gives him a small resistance to tsukuyomi.

unlike minato who will give itachi eye contact and will fall to tsukuyomi by feats.
and if we are still going by feats minato doesn't even have the feats to beat itachis finger sharingan yet.

ouch
 
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