FTG Blitz?

[salamander uchiha]

Tobirama pretty much performing ftg v2:

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Its the same sequence of events:

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Now unless youre saying he managed to mark madara, then its clear as day that hiraishingiri is simply teleporting to the area in the vicinity of his opponent to strike near immediately(with a bladed weapon in tobirama's case), which does not require said opponent to be marked.

I think it would be pretty stupid if they were to transport onto the mark itself. But they do teleport within it's location just as Minato did to the location of his Kunai or as he did behind Bee because his tail was behind him.

That the only requirement to get ftg blitzed is the victim being in the vicinity of a ftg seal. FTG blitz does not require the victim actually being marked.

As long as they're in line with it(the marked object), I see what your saying. Although that doesn't mean they'll get blitzed it allows for the possibility of getting blitzed.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I think it would be pretty stupid if they were to transport onto the mark itself. But they do teleport within it's location just as Minato did to the location of his Kunai or as he did behind Bee because his tail was behind him.

both minato and tobirama have done so numerous times. FTg markers have an area of effect that they can teleport to, and on top of that they get to choose their orientation when teleporting.(e.x. minato being upside down when using ftg v2 on obito, or tobirama being upside down when used ftg on madara)

As long as they're in line with it(the marked object), I see what your saying. Although that doesn't mean they'll get blitzed it allows for the possibility of getting blitzed.

as long as they are near, as explained above.

@ bold the list of ppl that can react to ftg effectively is extremely small. As it stands its only sage mode madara . Everyone else either has to compromise (bee since he couldn't stop himself from getting stabbed and only had mutual damage as an option), or to set stuff up in advance(obito activating chakra arms before tobirama teleports)

 

[salamander uchiha]

both minato and tobirama have done so numerous times. FTg markers have an area of effect that they can teleport to, and on top of that they get to choose their orientation when teleporting.(e.x. minato being upside down when using ftg v2 on obito, or tobirama being upside down when used ftg on madara)

@bold:Imo they do that mid teleportation, I don't think Kishi drew the panels to save time.


as long as they are near, as explained above.

@ bold the list of ppl that can react to ftg effectively is extremely small. As it stands its only sage mode madara . Everyone else either has to compromise (bee since he couldn't stop himself from getting stabbed and only had mutual damage as an option), or to set stuff up in advance(obito activating chakra arms before tobirama teleports)

That's not entirely true, Bee was able to react to it and save Ay who was a considerable distance from him at the time. In theory SM reaction is based on sensory perception. Anybody who can sensory jutsu should theoretically be able to react to it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

@bold:Imo they do that mid teleportation, I don't think Kishi drew the panels to save time.

as long as they are near, as explained above.

teleportation is instant so no its not "mid teleportation"

That's not entirely true, Bee was able to react to it and save Ay who was a considerable distance from him at the time. In theory SM reaction is based on sensory perception. Anybody who can sensory jutsu should theoretically be able to react to it.

bee didnt start moving until

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bee's striking speed in this case is faster than minato. And thats all there is to it.

 

[salamander uchiha]

teleportation is instant so no its not "mid teleportation"

I meant as it happens, I said mid teleportation but I meant pre "blitz" or post teleportation, those are the missing panels Imo.

bee didnt start moving until

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bee's striking speed in this case is faster than minato. And thats all there is to it.

Not just Bee's striking speed, perception speed, processing the events speed and ability to cover the gap.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I meant as it happens, I said mid teleportation but I meant pre "blitz" or post teleportation, those are the missing panels Imo.

if it was post teleportation than they'd change their orientation after teleporting. The orientation is already different. Minato went from a

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Stop being nitpicky about this, if they couldn't control their orientation he'd still face the same and be in the same bodily position after teleporting. But hes not. Its just another level of control ftg affords its user.

Not just Bee's striking speed, perception speed, processing the events speed and ability to cover the gap.

ok.but all of this takes place after the teleport so. . .

 

[salamander uchiha]

if it was post teleportation than they'd change their orientation after teleporting. The orientation is already different. Minato went from a

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Stop being nitpicky about this, if they couldn't control their orientation he'd still face the same and be in the same bodily position after teleporting. But hes not. Its just another level of control ftg affords its user.

There's no not picking what you're suggesting happened is what's confusing since instance doesn't allow room for change of motion. I said that Imo Kishi dropped panels, he considered us able to gauge what happened. They showed the missed out panels in the animated version.

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ok.but all of this takes place after the teleport so. . .

True, however highlighting Bee's prowess was necessary.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

There's no not picking what you're suggesting happened is what's confusing since instance doesn't allow room for change of motion. I said that Imo Kishi dropped panels, he considered us able to gauge what happened. They showed the missed out panels in the animated version.

-_- cmon bro, resorting to anime? really?

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nowhere do we see minato do a 1 handed handstand. He simply teleports to that position.Same goes for him teleporting behind the rock nin after marking him, as said before stop trying to nitpick it. Right now youre assuming what kishi is thinking just to be right.

True, however highlighting Bee's prowess was necessary.

ok

 

[Uverdore9]

Tobirama pretty much performing ftg v2:

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Its the same sequence of events:

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Now unless youre saying he managed to mark madara, then its clear as day that hiraishingiri is simply teleporting to the area in the vicinity of his opponent to strike near immediately(with a bladed weapon in tobirama's case), which does not require said opponent to be marked.




That the only requirement to get ftg blitzed is the victim being in the vicinity of a ftg seal. FTG blitz does not require the victim actually being marked.

Is there proof that Tobi did not mark him off-panel? I mean the Databook shows an image of Minato teleporting over to Obito as proof that he "evolved" the Hiraishin Tobi created.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Is there proof that Tobi did not mark him off-panel? I mean the Databook shows an image of Minato teleporting over to Obito as proof that he "evolved" the Hiraishin Tobi created.

who are we talking about here? izuna? if izuna was marked then tobirama would have killed madara.

 

[Uverdore9]

who are we talking about here? izuna? if izuna was marked then tobirama would have killed madara.

Madara.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara.

if he marked madara why teleport to the kunai and not madara directly

 

[Uverdore9]

if he marked madara why teleport to the kunai and not madara directly

Okay then. What were you implying with the "if izuna was marked then tobirama would have killed madara." earlier?

 

[enditallsin]

Minato wouldn't even need blitz you, he'll make you set yourself up to get marked and if he can't he's always fast enough to take a direct approach .

 

[Tapey]

because he can also throw his kunai around the field and teleport between them, or throw his kunai around his opponent and teleport right next to them

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why?

because madara let his guard down. Tobirama isnt gonna pass that up.