FTG and Formation of the 4 suns (Origins)

KingHashirama

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Probably Senju clan techniques that were passed down?



Since we know FTG was used by Tobirama, and then the formation of the 4 red suns is led by Hashirama. So what do you think their origin is?

Senju clan? or some other clan?
 

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Probably senju clan, it probably originates from hashiramas scroll of sealing.
 

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Probably Yeah.... Senjus were called Clan with Thousand Techs after all.... =D =D
 

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The formation of the 4 suns is an Uzumaki seal IMO.
 

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hashirama didnt do it all alone he needed minato n hiruzen too ...manga hasn't shown any specific technique which can only be used by senju clan whereras evry uchiha can use katon n hence its uchiha's technique ...senju's are said to possess
huge life force thats all ...how to use such life force depends upon user ..lik hashirama's mokuton n tobirama's suiton ...as for four red suns its highly unlikely that its a senju clan technq since hiruzen n minato also provided support to accomplish it
 

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I was under the impression all techniques in the Leaf came from the Senju.
 

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4 Suns is probably Uzumaki, taught to Hashi by his wife
 

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hashirama didnt do it all alone he needed minato n hiruzen too ...manga hasn't shown any specific technique which can only be used by senju clan whereras evry uchiha can use katon n hence its uchiha's technique ...senju's are said to possess
huge life force thats all ...how to use such life force depends upon user ..lik hashirama's mokuton n tobirama's suiton ...as for four red suns its highly unlikely that its a senju clan technq since hiruzen n minato also provided support to accomplish it
Hashirama needed the other Kages because it requires other Kages to do it.. But Hashirama is the one leading it. Senju clan is the clan of thousand skills. Bringer of Darkness = Senju, The gates Orochimaru used against Naruto = Senju, Kage bunshin = Senju, FTG first used by a Senju, Katon is also used by the Sarutobi clan o-o.

Breakdown of the clans :

Uzumaki = Fuinjutsu

Uchiha = Sharingan based

Senju = Fuinjutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu....

Senju was a more "all-around" clan then any other clan. Hence why they ended up being superior. I mean a Senju was known for her genjutsu prowess around the world not a Uchiha during Madara's time.

I was under the impression all techniques in the Leaf came from the Senju.

Orochimaru sure did use the Senju technique of the Gates. =x. He probably knows them. What'd be weird is if the animal summonings were from the Senju also. X_X
 

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FTG most definitely originates from the Uzumaki clan. It's a practical way of utilizing their seals and the reverse summoning technique.

I expect that the Formation of the 4 Suns technique could also originate from the Uzumaki clan, since it would have likely been used in conjunction with their sealing techniques.

It seems like most techniques of a similar function could be traced back to the Uzumaki, who simply passed on their jutsu to the Senju due to their alliance.
 

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FTG most definitely originates from the Uzumaki clan. It's a practical way of utilizing their seals and the reverse summoning technique.

I expect that the Formation of the 4 Suns technique could also originate from the Uzumaki clan, since it would have likely been used in conjunction with their sealing techniques.

A Senju used it first. Uzumaki aren't the only ones who can use seals.. you know. lol. Your acting as if Senju clan can't use them. When its leader had a scroll called the Scroll of Seals.. before they were even friends with the Uzumaki.
 

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This..where else does most seals in naruto come from?

Name 1 barrier that came from the Uzumaki clan.

Name 1 Konoha technique that comes from the Uzumaki clan.

Formation of the 4 red suns is a Konoha technique, hence why its being used by Konoha's fore-fathers.
 
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