(FT) - Minato/Gai VS (DrProof) - Gaara/Shukaku Debate!!

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Gaara, and Shukaku's starting distance would allow them to captivate on the situation; . Once Gaara's opponents sight is completely blocked by the large tsunami of sand Gaara would simultaneously do 3 things:

I.
II.
III.

The Suna Bunshin would then organize into Formation:

W: Primary Offense
X: Primary Defense
Y: Secondary Offense
Z: Secondary Defense

W - X

Y - Z​

The formation protects every angle, as well reinforces a back-up plan if one of the 4 is being blitzed/attacked by both opponents eg; Clone W is being blitzed, W will move to the center, while X counters the blitz attempt, and Y (The Secondary Offense) strikes at the opponents attempting the blitz. Vice-Versa per-say Z is being blitzed, Z will move to the center, and Y will attack the opponents attempting the blitz, while X (The Primary Defense) counters the blitz attempt.

The Secondaries (Clones Y & Z) main priorities are to set up "Insurance" at the start of the Set-Up; Clone Y's job is to set up an while in sync with .

Clone Z's job is to set-up (a technique in which caught Mu an expert in the arts of Camouflage several times), as well to , and lastly to as the clones, as well Gaara are all connected via chakra links they see what Clone Z sees, and Clone Z sees everything.

Once the Secondaries jobs are complete, the Primaries will apply pressure:

The Primaries (Clone W & Gaara (X)) main priorities are what I like to call the "Sword & Board Strategy". The S&B Strategy simply refers to a 2-step fighting sequence eg; Clone W will strike with multiple , and . Clone W will be the Sword.

While Gaara (X) will be the Shield taking on the job of Defense eg; Gaara (X) will cause Minato, and Gai great trouble, due to many separation tactics (getting them apart will overall make this easier) such as to enclose, and/or trap them into an immense , as well causing basic .

Shukaku through all of this, is distances away, firing multiple large scale assaults via at Minato, and Gai's location; Shukaku is changing the landscape, as well causing his opponents to worry about his large-scale techniques, enabling Minato, and Gai to be caught easier by Gaara, and his Clones repeated-assaults..

(x): Opening Post
 
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Forgot to include: The Debaters get a 3 Post Max. FT, and I have agreed on this.
 

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This and the VS section is going to die like Proof's exploit groups. :x
 

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This and the VS section is going to die like Proof's exploit groups. :x

A.K.E was good for awhile. I'm usually solo in everything I do sadly. FT needs to get on this.
 

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It was, I suppose, but you went inactive.

Sasuke/Deidara exploit groups >

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No. I'm his twin sister, AkatsukiMosque.

You can call me... AM-chan. :x
 

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Gaara, and Shukaku's starting distance would allow them to captivate on the situation; . Once Gaara's opponents sight is completely blocked by the large tsunami of sand Gaara would simultaneously do 3 things:

I.
II.
III.

The Suna Bunshin would then organize into Formation:

W: Primary Offense
X: Primary Defense
Y: Secondary Offense
Z: Secondary Defense

W - X

Y - Z​

The formation protects every angle, as well reinforces a back-up plan if one of the 4 is being blitzed/attacked by both opponents eg; Clone W is being blitzed, W will move to the center, while X counters the blitz attempt, and Y (The Secondary Offense) strikes at the opponents attempting the blitz. Vice-Versa per-say Z is being blitzed, Z will move to the center, and Y will attack the opponents attempting the blitz, while X (The Primary Defense) counters the blitz attempt.

The Secondaries (Clones Y & Z) main priorities are to set up "Insurance" at the start of the Set-Up; Clone Y's job is to set up an while in sync with .

Clone Z's job is to set-up (a technique in which caught Mu an expert in the arts of Camouflage several times), as well to , and lastly to as the clones, as well Gaara are all connect via chakra links they see what Clone Z sees, and Clone Z sees everything.

Once the Secondaries jobs are complete, the Primaries will apply pressure:

The Primaries (Clone W & Gaara (X)) main priorities are what I like to call the "Sword & Board Strategy". The S&B Strategy simply refers a 2-step fighting sequence eg; Clone W will strike with multiple , and . Clone W will be the Sword.

While Gaara (X) will be the Shield taking on the job of Defense eg; Gaara (X) will cause Minato, and Gai great trouble, due to many separation tactics (getting them apart will overall make this easier) such as to enclose, and/or trap them into an immense , as well causing basic .

Shukaku through all of this, is distances away, firing multiple large scale assaults via at Minato, and Gai's location; Shukaku is changing the landscape, as well causing his opponents to worry about his large-scale techniques, enabling Minato, and Gai to be caught easier by Gaara, and his Clones repeated-assaults..

(x): Opening Post

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Quite the tactician we got here, Lol. Good stuff. Unfortunately, I am going to have to foil your entire strategy from the rip. I don't believe I have to remind you that my team is composed of some of the fastest shinobi alive. With that being said, there jutsu execution is faster then that of your teams. I can very easily exploit the few seconds it'll take for Gaara to conjure up enough sand for a sand tsunami of that scale in the given location; in which Minato would have a large enough window to immediately shunshin blitz Gaara given the 20-30m starting distance before he could even blink. But what fun would that be?

Anyways, utilizing Gaaras sand tsunami in order to blind his opponents line of sight is a handy trick. However, that isn't necessarily the case in this scenario due to the fact that Minato is a sensor:

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So Minato will be aware of all Gaaras bunshin tactics; while on the contrary Gaara and Shukaku are the ones who are actually blinded by their own sand tsunami tactic. As the sand tsunami arises; Minato will create one kage bunshin, who will imediately tag Gai with a FTG marking, while the real Minato tosses a FTG Kunai as far as he can in the opposite direction (This will be referred to as the 'Safe Spot'; remember it for future reference). Minato then uses on the square formation you deployed Gaara and his clones in (assuming Gaara gets to even set up as fast) which'll undoubtedly destroy one, two, if not all three of Gaara's suna bunshins and/or knock Gaara out of the sky. Also, take note that Minato, the kage bunshin, and Gai will be brought along the Food Cart Destroyer and standing on Gamabunta thanks to FTG.

With your formation broken; Minato's Kage bunshin and Gai then pursue Gaara and whichever Suna bunshin(s) is left; while the Real Minato and Gamabunta pursue the Ichibi.




Gai and Minato Bunshin Verse Gaara and Suna Bunshin(s)

First, allow me to establish that Gaara's attacks aren't faster then Gai and Minato Bunshin. This should be obvious. Gaara admitted that his sand isn't fast enough to contend with Madaras attacks [ ]... while Minato Bunshin has instant teleportion (though admittedly not nearly as fast the original) and Gai is capable of countering Madaras attacks himself even in the lower stages of the Hachimon [ ]. Gaara has no way of actually hurting my team with his slow attacks. Overwhelming them with sand is even out of the question, thanks to the safe spot laying 70+ meters or so away; which can instantly be accessed via FTG in order to avoid Gaaras sand attacks and then teleported back. Furthermore, even if Gaara miraculously catches Minato or Gai with his sand, it isn't stopping the FTG technique. As you can see , Obito clenched Minato's arm with quite the firmest of grips; yet it didn't stop Minato from teleporting away. Second example, Minato once again being clenched, , and shouldn't of been able to escape... yet he did. So sand arms, sand coffins, etc. aren't even effective here.

Now back to it; Gai instantly activates the Sixth Hachimon [ ] where he is capable of jumping like Air Jordan [ ] and reach a quite significant height even with the use of an unstable jumping platform; imagine how much higher he'll get by pushing off the sturdy ground. Let's not forget how easily and elegantly Gai whisked away Gaaras hand of sand [ ]-[ ]... Yes, that was part one Gaara, but that was also Gai in base. Not comparable to Gai in the higher levels of the Hachimon. Also, inb4 gravity should bring Gai right back down now that he had to force his way through the sand; no such thing occured to Rock Lee who had to repeatedly kick Gaara and his heavy sand gourd up in the air [ ] without coming back down. Furthermore, Gai has his summon if necessary. Once reaching Gaaras vicinity, Minato only needs to teleport up with Gai and take this course of action:
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Admittedly, most if not all of these can be blocked or deflected by Gaaras sand, but due note, Minato can appear 5 meters or so away from his kunai..

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This should give him the range to destroy any remaining suna bunshin(s) while Gai simultaenously lights up the sky with . The point of all of this, is to be able to distinguish the real Gaara by getting rid of any remaining bunshins. Also it's worth mentioning that if Minato comes in contact with any of Gaaras sand, he can simply tag it, hide a kunai in it like Deidara did with his bombs, or use chakra transfer [ ]-[ ] and place it in the sand, so he can always teleport right back up to Gaara at any moment.

Once this is accompished, it's practically over for Gaara. He still can't catch Minato Bunshin and Gai with his slow sand attacks, and now Minato can teleport to him directly with Gai. Hirudora shot from short-mid range ends the fight.




Minato and Gamabunta Verse Shukaka

Though not as strong, there is no question that Gamabunta is more agile then the rather stationary Shukaku:

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He can easily dance around Shukaku as shown in the spoiler; and thanks to Minato, Gamabunta doesn't need to worry about getting hit by any air bullets or TBB's thanks to the Minato can use to send the Shukaku's own attacks against him. Gamabunta can immediately give the Shukaku a nice oil bath:

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This sticky oil will cause the Shukaku's sand body to clump up and stick together as it did to Konan; rendering her oragami useless [ ]. The same effective will take place to Shukaku, he will be slowed down, and wouldn't be able to manipulate the sand in his body, and thus no curse marks. The next course of action, will be subduing the Shukaku with Gamabuntas long enough for Minato to seal away the Shukaku with the . Yes, I am aware that Minato had to first seal half the Kyubi's chakra with the RDS, however you can not compare the Kyubi with the Ichibi, or any other Bijuu for that matter. The Ichibi get's sealed and it's mission complete.


 

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Someone neg FT for saying ''Minato''. Didn't your mommy teach you not to say bad words in public?
 

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LMAO, Minato is useless in a desert. Proof can easily win this.

 

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LMAO, Minato is useless in a desert. Proof can easily win this.


Except the location isn't a desert by default. As FT said, Gaara can quite easily be blitzed before he turns the ground into sand.
 

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Except the location isn't a desert by default. As FT said, Gaara can quite easily be blitzed before he turns the ground into sand.



Not if Gaara starts of with Ryūsa Bakuryū. For instant speed Minato is in need of the Kunai's he is throwing
which won't work with a sandwall, before him.. and Ryūsa Bakuryū would also burry every other Kunai Minato
spread around the battlefield, forcing Minato to grab them underground and thus die due to the pressure.

 

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Not if Gaara starts of with Ryūsa Bakuryū. For instant speed Minato is in need of the Kunai's he is throwing
which won't work with a sandwall, before him.. and Ryūsa Bakuryū would also burry every other Kunai Minato
spread around the battlefield, forcing Minato to grab them underground and thus die due to the pressure.


Except he can't start off with it. Converting the ground into sand may not take any effort, but it takes 15-20 seconds at least.
 

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Stop debating you 2 (Akasuna and -Sasuke)

Take it to your profiles and keep this place clean.






Or else i will put an end to this.
 

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Good counter FT I hate you bc I can't respond on Weekends remember -_-
 
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