From what holy hell did people get the idea that Tobirama>Minato in reflexes??

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Minato>Tobirama in reflexes, speed and FTG. That much is true. Tobirama showed that he can use FTG, which wasn't that much of a surprise and people are suddenly going around saying he's got better reflexes, FTG, speed and what not. Really, this is getting annoying. Especially the reflexes thing. Tobirama had to get cut in half so he could mark Juubito. Minato escaped his attack with losing only one arm, and from a Juubito with control of his attacks.

Then people are saying he could use FTG he kunai as well, then why the f*#k didn't he use it before he got killed by 20 nin, when Minato was known for taking out platoons in the blink of an eye using his FTG. Either he was a dumbass to not figure out such an obvious usage of his tech, which he is not as we all know, or he simply couldn't. Also, Minato was said to have took on A, one of the fastest shinobi, and B, the 8-tails jin, and not only come out alive, but out-match them, multiple times. A's reflexes were also mentioned to be ALMOST on par with the fourths with his lightning armor, almost being the key-word. How on earth could Tobirama who freaking got fodderised by 20 nin be anywhere on par with this guy's reflexes?

Tobirama refers to FTG as shunshin since he said so not only when they arrived the the battlefield, but also when Minato slashed Obito. That also implies that he admitted his FTG to be inferior to Minato's. So much for better speed and better reflexes.

Tobirama also does not have S/T barrier. Atleast, feats till now suggest that, and most probably, he didn't.

So far, the only thing going for Tobirama against Minato are his unknown suiton hype, which I honestly don't remember. The konoha anbu were simply amazed by his level of suiton, I don't recall seeing a line that states him to be the best ever. Edo Tensei in my opinion will do hardly anything against Minato who's one of the best sealers in the manga.

Minato still > Tobirama, unless he shows us something more.
 

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tl;dr

Summary: OP is butthurt
 

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Don't know about any of that But Sasuke solos.

on second thought the way I see it Tobirama created the s/t jutsu, Minato perfected it. Just like how Minato created the rasengan and how Naruto perfected it.
 

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Tobirama is getting retconned. That kin gin fight means jack****.
 

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He already stated his FTG to be inferior to Minato's FTG. However, this is to be expected.

Isn't devising a jutsu more difficult than improving upon it?
 

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I wouldn't say he is more powerful or more skilled than Minato, but he is pretty inventive with his skills, that's for sure. He was able to make sure that Jubito was hit pretty hard by naruto and sasuke attack. Will it be enough, most likely not!

He already stated his FTG to be inferior to Minato's FTG. However, this is to be expected.

Isn't devising a jutsu more difficult than improving upon it?

Starting from Scratch is always harder than starting from a point and improving on it. Although i do like Tobirama's mark seal, its pretty cool.
 

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He already stated his FTG to be inferior to Minato's FTG. However, this is to be expected.

Isn't devising a jutsu more difficult than improving upon it?
Tobirama died before Minato was born. If FTG was something anyone could learn out of a book, someone other than Minato might have also done that, Orochimaru for example. I think Minato devised the jutsu on his own, simply taking inspiration from second's work.
 

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I agree with your thread the moment i saw the title.
 

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Where all shitty ideas come from... The loo
 

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Well probably some Itachi wankers. Now that the Hiraishin Mawashi was introduced and that tech is ****ing OP they're looking for something to annoy Minato fans..
 

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Thank you for this thread
 
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