Frequency, Auditory, Vibrations, Oscillation, all that Jazz
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In the break down of it, sound is the waves generated by vibrations and oscillations that travel through some sort of medium (typically the air). The vibrations create frequencies that act as auditory stimulus that allow for them to be heard. You totally loved how I used every word from the thread title except for Jazz...which I just did BOOM.
Anyway the speed at which the sound waves travel is dependent on the individual medium used. Sound that travels through air travels at a different speed than it would in water. In the Narutoverse, the way sound has been demonstrated, for the most part, is that the waves generated are infused with one's chakra. The sound waves act as the medium for the techniques used and are often amplified in affects thanks to the chakra. Dosu's techniques with his mechanical arm physically rattled his opponent's body. When used against Lee, he caused great pain in his ear and body. The vibrations and waves can be used on a physical level to cause tactile or physical damage. In terms of genjutsu, the sound waves carry the chakra of the user to their opponent. Sound is received through the opponent's hears which is how the chakra disrupts your opponent's flow. As Demonstrated in the series, if one blocked sound from entering their ears they could block the genjutsu. I, however, believe there are alternative ways in which you can cast sound genjutsu even if your opponent can't hear it. As Dosu pointed out in his chuunin exam fight against Choji, the mediums for sound don't just have to be through the air. He managed to use his technique on Choji, using the water in his body as a medium. How this translates to sound based genjutsu? I would say, if the chakra enters your body a different way OR if you physically manifest the wave as if it were a ninjutsu, when it hits your opponent, it can rattle their body and cause their chakra flow to become disturbed and induce the genjutsu. That's my view on it to some degree.
Though primarily an auditory received and affecting set of techniques, Sound can affect people on the physical tactile level and cause physical damage in other ways to a respectable degree.
Anyway the speed at which the sound waves travel is dependent on the individual medium used. Sound that travels through air travels at a different speed than it would in water. In the Narutoverse, the way sound has been demonstrated, for the most part, is that the waves generated are infused with one's chakra. The sound waves act as the medium for the techniques used and are often amplified in affects thanks to the chakra. Dosu's techniques with his mechanical arm physically rattled his opponent's body. When used against Lee, he caused great pain in his ear and body. The vibrations and waves can be used on a physical level to cause tactile or physical damage. In terms of genjutsu, the sound waves carry the chakra of the user to their opponent. Sound is received through the opponent's hears which is how the chakra disrupts your opponent's flow. As Demonstrated in the series, if one blocked sound from entering their ears they could block the genjutsu. I, however, believe there are alternative ways in which you can cast sound genjutsu even if your opponent can't hear it. As Dosu pointed out in his chuunin exam fight against Choji, the mediums for sound don't just have to be through the air. He managed to use his technique on Choji, using the water in his body as a medium. How this translates to sound based genjutsu? I would say, if the chakra enters your body a different way OR if you physically manifest the wave as if it were a ninjutsu, when it hits your opponent, it can rattle their body and cause their chakra flow to become disturbed and induce the genjutsu. That's my view on it to some degree.
Though primarily an auditory received and affecting set of techniques, Sound can affect people on the physical tactile level and cause physical damage in other ways to a respectable degree.
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Sounds like you're already pretty efficient with Sounds. Let me tell my thoughts on how Sound Genjutsu works, and how it can be countered.
Before we get into the task you asked me to do, let me tell you my thought on genjutsu (Because Biology I understand better than Physics xD). There's tree things that would stop a sound Genjutsu, and those are based on the process of getting a wave of sound (which carries your chakra) into your brain.
Firstly, blocking the wave, preventing it from reaching your years. This comes from the inherit characteristics of sound waves, so it's more of your area than mine. But basically, if you isolate your ears from the sound wave, it can't produce it's effects. Stopping the chakra itself, maybe through fuuin or some sort of barrier should work fine. In a very basic manner, this would be the method one employs when covering one's ears. But can be added further with Sound's natural weakness to Wind
Secondly, destroying the sound receptors in the ear. Without them, the wave can't be captured/sensed, and the info or the chakra isn't transported to the brain. I don't think just having waves hit the body work, because soung genjutsus are not about the physic properties of sound and how it reacts to matter as a whole, just the sensors in the ear. This is the method one employs when one tries to pierce one's hears with a needle of something similar.
Thirdly, mess with the brain itself. There's a syndrome called Agnosia, and a branch for sound reception. Basically there's two types of deafness, physical deafness, where you're unable to retrieve sound from the world (Second method, basically), and mental deafness, where you can retrieve sound from the exterior, but the area of your brain that translates it doesn't work, so the information can't be processed. People with sound agnosia can't be affected by sound genjutsu (or sound-based illusions). Someone proficient enough with genjutsu might be able to recreate agnosia. I even have a few jutsus that do just that xD
Note, this is about actual genjutsu, not symptoms like making your opponent's ears bleed.
Before we get into the task you asked me to do, let me tell you my thought on genjutsu (Because Biology I understand better than Physics xD). There's tree things that would stop a sound Genjutsu, and those are based on the process of getting a wave of sound (which carries your chakra) into your brain.
Firstly, blocking the wave, preventing it from reaching your years. This comes from the inherit characteristics of sound waves, so it's more of your area than mine. But basically, if you isolate your ears from the sound wave, it can't produce it's effects. Stopping the chakra itself, maybe through fuuin or some sort of barrier should work fine. In a very basic manner, this would be the method one employs when covering one's ears. But can be added further with Sound's natural weakness to Wind
Secondly, destroying the sound receptors in the ear. Without them, the wave can't be captured/sensed, and the info or the chakra isn't transported to the brain. I don't think just having waves hit the body work, because soung genjutsus are not about the physic properties of sound and how it reacts to matter as a whole, just the sensors in the ear. This is the method one employs when one tries to pierce one's hears with a needle of something similar.
Thirdly, mess with the brain itself. There's a syndrome called Agnosia, and a branch for sound reception. Basically there's two types of deafness, physical deafness, where you're unable to retrieve sound from the world (Second method, basically), and mental deafness, where you can retrieve sound from the exterior, but the area of your brain that translates it doesn't work, so the information can't be processed. People with sound agnosia can't be affected by sound genjutsu (or sound-based illusions). Someone proficient enough with genjutsu might be able to recreate agnosia. I even have a few jutsus that do just that xD
Note, this is about actual genjutsu, not symptoms like making your opponent's ears bleed.
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Yes yes, I know all about Agnosia you told me about it that time I tried to create a genjutsu based off of it. I also know you copied this post from your training with Wes 
Anyway, your methods of blocking/combatting sound based genjutsu all focus around the generally understood concept of how Sound Gen is cast, through reception of the waves through the ears. However, what is your stance on my other means of casting genjutsu with sound? The idea behind physically disturbing the chakra from outside the body through the use of increasing the frequency enough to have the body rattled and thereby create a physical disturbance from the outside of the body?
It's one of those areas with genjutsu I wanted to play around with. In essence it focuses on the tactile sense over one's auditory as a means of inducting genjutsu and it would get rid of the unnecessary requirement of having your opponent's ears available for the technique?
Anyway, your methods of blocking/combatting sound based genjutsu all focus around the generally understood concept of how Sound Gen is cast, through reception of the waves through the ears. However, what is your stance on my other means of casting genjutsu with sound? The idea behind physically disturbing the chakra from outside the body through the use of increasing the frequency enough to have the body rattled and thereby create a physical disturbance from the outside of the body?
It's one of those areas with genjutsu I wanted to play around with. In essence it focuses on the tactile sense over one's auditory as a means of inducting genjutsu and it would get rid of the unnecessary requirement of having your opponent's ears available for the technique?
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You can produce physical effects with vibrations alone, such as weakening muscles, shattering bones, piercing small membranes etc. Genjutsu itself can only be performed if the chakra is guided to the brain, and that can only be done if there are sound receptors present. If a wave is made to touch the body and travel through the water, it will bypass someone covering or plugging their ears, but won't do anything to someone who actually pierced them.Yes yes, I know all about Agnosia you told me about it that time I tried to create a genjutsu based off of it. I also know you copied this post from your training with Wes
Anyway, your methods of blocking/combatting sound based genjutsu all focus around the generally understood concept of how Sound Gen is cast, through reception of the waves through the ears. However, what is your stance on my other means of casting genjutsu with sound? The idea behind physically disturbing the chakra from outside the body through the use of increasing the frequency enough to have the body rattled and thereby create a physical disturbance from the outside of the body?
It's one of those areas with genjutsu I wanted to play around with. In essence it focuses on the tactile sense over one's auditory as a means of inducting genjutsu and it would get rid of the unnecessary requirement of having your opponent's ears available for the technique?
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Well if we were to look at other examples of how physical contact can be used to induce genjutsu, lazy fist, that basic concept can be transferred to this theory of mine. With Lazy Fist, genjutsu is established through physical contact, that means through physical stimuli, one guides the chakra through the sense of touch into their opponent.
With Sound, the general conception about it is that it deals with only the ears. Kin's bells, Tayuya's flute, Dosu's mechanical device. However in the case of Dosu even and his other partner, and as we've already established, sound techniques can have an affect on the physical level to affect people to rattle and break bones and weaken muscles. These affects are felt and they are felt and interoperated through the brain because of the stimulus of the vibrations on a physical level. If physical contact can be used as a tactile medium for genjutsu in taijutsu, theoretically techniques that can cause equally as stimulate activity on the tactile level can do the same.
However, this is probably too far a tangent from the actual training. I digress, what else do you have to tell me sensei?
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I believe you'd need to make a custom technique to do it, as it is beyond the canon Sound element and Sound-based Genjutsu.
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Well, let's start with the techniques:
(Ototon: Himei Zetsubou no Jutsu) - Sound Release: Scream of Despair Skill
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/a
Description: The user concentrating chakra into their vocal cords enhancing throat chakra lets out a scream that travels extremely fast in which can be used to deflect projectiles and send opponents flying.
Note: Travels at 315 speed
This acts the same as a Wind jutsu, though faster. It can cause a ringing in the ear and a loss of balance (to go along with the actual pushing effect), but it does no damage. According to my Sound Sensei, it's not how sound should work, but, it my opinion, it's within the limits.
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(Ototon: Himei Zetsubou no Jutsu) - Sound Release: Scream of Despair Skill
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/a
Description: The user concentrating chakra into their vocal cords enhancing throat chakra lets out a scream that travels extremely fast in which can be used to deflect projectiles and send opponents flying.
Note: Travels at 315 speed
This acts the same as a Wind jutsu, though faster. It can cause a ringing in the ear and a loss of balance (to go along with the actual pushing effect), but it does no damage. According to my Sound Sensei, it's not how sound should work, but, it my opinion, it's within the limits.
Questions?
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If one were in the process of focusing chakra for a technique this would typically be a skill used to intercept? Not necessarily metagaming but; in a fight where you know your opponent is going to do something you just don't let them do it. lol.
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Technically, yes. But any jutsu is able to interrupt your opponent. Some do it with a sonic blast, others with death >_>
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Well, check again thensomething you just can't seem to pull off with Kirabi right now right
(Ototon: Naiteki Ne no Jutsu) - Sound Release: Inner Sonar Skill
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user enhancing their hearing by utilizing chakra and enfusing their sound waves from their mouth. With their breathing sound waves emerge and bounce off of objects having them know wherever everything is around them.
Okay, with this one, until it's stated otherwise, you activate it once at the beginning of your turn, and then it's activated passively until you release it or until you drop it. With this, you can periodically get a reading of everything around your, by the sound waves bouncing off of objects and returning back to you. Problem is, if the object is able to absorb the sound waves, you'll get a distorted reading, or no reading at all. Likewise, since this only reaches mid-range, anything long range will appear to you as no info regained. If you're relying on this jutsu purely, then it's the same as being "blind" higher than mid-range. With that being said, it works marvelously in a mist, or even in a dust screen. It works underground, above ground to sense underground, in forests, inside a room, etc etc. It would give you the accuracy necessary to hear handseals being made and sense them, and even discern elements by their shape, sound, and by the way they react to the sound waves.
Lastly, beware of the enhanced sound, as you'd be extra susceptible to loud noises. Similar to how Kiba was extra susceptible to farts.
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I did check...Samehada has some pretty useful abilities wouldn't you say jajaja, though it looks like you're trying so that's all that matters lol.
This doesn't cancel out any of your other senses does it? Also, if one were to get a distorted signal from an entity that appears to absorb sound wave, wouldn't that distortion act as a sort of beacon to let you know something is wrong? I mean, I understand you're blind if you get no signal but a distorted signal is just as good an indicator that something is wrong in a specific direction as a clear signal in terms of alerting.
This doesn't cancel out any of your other senses does it? Also, if one were to get a distorted signal from an entity that appears to absorb sound wave, wouldn't that distortion act as a sort of beacon to let you know something is wrong? I mean, I understand you're blind if you get no signal but a distorted signal is just as good an indicator that something is wrong in a specific direction as a clear signal in terms of alerting.
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Not it doesn't affect other senses, it just heightens the hearing and periodically releases a sonar wave.
And of course, sometimes, no info is just as informative as info. lol