Fox News Believes Trump at his word.

Kuroh · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
You agreed with a troll....

Please stop insulting me, I am not a troll. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean you have the right to call me names.

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Kuroh said:
Please stop insulting me, I am not a troll. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean you have the right to call me names.

But trolls are part of the problem....

Kuroh · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
But trolls are part of the problem....

Because of you I have not enjoyed my stay here today.

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Kuroh said:
Because of you I have not enjoyed my stay here today.

You should leave then.

Kuroh · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
You should leave then.

No, you should apologize.

Genocide · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
No, I'm mad that Hillary beat Bernie.

I'm disappointed that Trump became president.

And I'm sad at how dumb his supporters are, especially the current ones such as yourself. Trump lost most of his base already and the only people still rooting for him are those that are missing light bulbs in their heads.

bernie was a communist

LoZelda101 · May 21, 2017

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Callypigia · May 21, 2017

Genocide said:
bernie was a communist

His fans know that, that's what they want. They are either too young to understand the real world, too lazy to work, too uneducated to grasp history and finance, or lack the common sense to accept historical facts about the evils of communism and the failures of socialism across the world. They'll get it eventually when they grow up and begin contributing to society. Back in the late 1960's the New Left had the same ideologies; most of them grew up.

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Callypigia said:
His fans know that, that's what they want. They are either too young to understand the real world, too lazy to work, too uneducated to grasp history and finance, or lack the common sense to accept historical affects about the evils of communism and the failures of socialism across the world. They'll get it eventually when they grow up and begin contributing to society. Back in the late 1960's the New Left had the same ideologies; most of them grew up.

So what you're saying is that social security is evil, amirite?

Genocide · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
So what you're saying is that social security is evil, amirite?

the marxist socialism doesnt work,

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Genocide said:
the marxist socialism doesnt work,

So Social Security doesn't work and is evil, correct?

Genocide · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
So Social Security doesn't work and is evil, correct?

i believe in socialism not just marxist version

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Genocide said:
i believe in socialism not just marxist version

Really? I mean, you just liked a comment that shat on socialism.

Give me specifics.

Genocide · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
Really? I mean, you just liked a comment that shat on socialism.

Give me specifics.

Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif]Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain."[/FONT]

plus capatalism is still a large part of the system imo

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Genocide said:
Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif]Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain."[/FONT]

plus capatalism is still a large part of the system imo

Few questions starting with this one.

Is a government made up of one policy or many?

Uzumaki Macho · May 21, 2017

Callypigia said:
His fans know that, that's what they want. They are either too young to understand the real world, too lazy to work, too uneducated to grasp history and finance, or lack the common sense to accept historical facts about the evils of communism and the failures of socialism across the world. They'll get it eventually when they grow up and begin contributing to society. Back in the late 1960's the New Left had the same ideologies; most of them grew up.

Saying that Bernie is a communist is like saying that Trump is a Neo-Nazi.

Callypigia · May 21, 2017

Lightbringer said:
So what you're saying is that social security is evil, amirite?

I said socialism is a failure, and communism is evil. Social security is a long-term failure, especially as life expectancy increases, people pay less into the system, and the government constantly misuses/mismanages it (ie., using it for purposes other than investments that roll back into the social security account). People should have the right to do with their money as they please.

Don't confuse social welfare (SSI) with social security benefits (OASDI) either; they come from different funds, though it may seem confusing at first. SSI comes from US Treasury fund and OASDI comes from SS trust fund. People who have not paid into it receive social welfare, which is a form of government assistance based on minimal wage - each state has their own guidelines on who is eligible and what the benefits include. Social security benefits are for people who have paid into the federal system. Those are pensions, disability insurances (based on taxes paid prior to disability), and survivor benefits. An indication of its downward spiral is that they have to keep pushing back the age to collect. Baby Boomers, Gen Xers, and maybe early Millennials should be fine. Later born Millennials and younger will most likely be receiving smaller pensions than they were forced to pay into. Further generations...we don't know yet. Another example: In the military right now they are discussing removing social security pensions from veterans even though they also pay into federal social security.

My point is, SS taxes are only taken from those who pay into the system, and only go back to those who pay into the system. It has nothing to do with the poor and disabled. Even if it is only 6% of our monthly earnings, people who work should be allowed to do with their money as they see fit. It's basically forcefully borrowing from people, and then giving them back less than was borrowed.

Uzumaki Macho said:
Saying that Bernie is a communist is like saying that Trump is a Neo-Nazi.

No because the Nazi party is anti-Semitic and socialist and Trump is an ardent capitalist and supporter of Israel. Bernie Sanders however is a member of the socialist party, and espouses ideas that coincide with communism. While he pretends to like the idea of democratic control, he seems mostly interested in a single party rule. He and his supporters are very similar to Bolsheviks who started as the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. I imagine you know how that turned out.

Lightbringer · May 21, 2017

Callypigia said:
I said socialism is a failure, and communism is evil. Social security is a long-term failure, especially as life expectancy increases, people pay less into the system, and the government constantly misuses/mismanages it (ie., using it for purposes other than investments that roll back into the social security account). People should have the right to do with their money as they please.

Don't confuse social welfare (SSI) with social security benefits (OASDI) either; they come from different funds, though it may seem confusing at first. SSI comes from US Treasury fund and OASDI comes from SS trust fund. People who have not paid into it receive social welfare, which is a form of government assistance based on minimal wage - each state has their own guidelines on who is eligible and what the benefits include. Social security benefits are for people who have paid into the federal system. Those are pensions, disability insurances (based on taxes paid prior to disability), and survivor benefits. An indication of its downward spiral is that they have to keep pushing back the age to collect. Baby Boomers, Gen Xers, and maybe early Millennials should be fine. Later born Millennials and younger will most likely be receiving smaller pensions than they were forced to pay into. Further generations...we don't know yet. Another example: In the military right now they are discussing removing social security pensions from veterans even though they also pay into federal social security.

My point is, SS taxes are only taken from those who pay into the system, and only go back to those who pay into the system. It has nothing to do with the poor and disabled. Even if it is only 6% of our monthly earnings, people who work should be allowed to do with their money as they see fit. It's basically forcefully borrowing from people, and then giving them back less than was borrowed.

Social Security is the most popular program in the history of the U.S. So much of what you said does not reflect the opinion of more than 85% of the people in the U.S.