Fourth databook stats:

[southern sun]

@minator93. why you given minato 5 in handseals ? minato not show any HANDseals. and naruto need in intelligence 4.5 or 5.0, because even kurama praise naruto smart

 

[Minator93]

Obito higher than in stats than madara and hashirama?? Doubt it
& Prime hiruzen?? Where is your basis for grounds there?
YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PRIME HIRUZEN

Naruto had 26 but beat Kakuzu 32.5 so the stats do not mean battle wining. Its simply a way of showing how "complete" a shinobi is U_U

68-69 yo Hiruzen had 34, 3's in stamina, strength and speed. During his last fight Enma, Oro and Anbu fodders talked about how he pales in comparison to hhis younger self because of strength, speed and stamina. He was the most "complete" shinobi and hence the names Professor, God of all shinobis etc.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Feel Kushina should be at least 30.

By the way. Kankuro's total is only 3.5 you might want to fix that.

I really wanted to give Kushina a 30.5, but I couldn't do it without exaggerating some of her stats.

And lol! XD

disagree with naruto smart, seals and genjutsu

Hm? Why is that?

I don't see any problem with it,
nice thread

Thanks!

I commend you for writing all this rep=d

Thanks for the rep!

Good work!

Thank you!

Dont agree with necessarily everything but pretty accurate. Nice effort

Thanks! I tried to be as accurate as I could!

Complex work you did here some rep.

Thank you!

Minato should have a 5 in stamina, definitely.

Hm, I personally don't think so. He went against Tobi and Kyuubi yes, but he also had a whole village's help vs Kurama. I do however think his chakra reserves are quite high.

Where's Jugo ?

Under sound ninja!

I don't know if we can say Madara is that close to the god of the Narutoverse....

These are base stats. And remember, Orochimaru had a 35 while Itachi had 35.5, and at the time Itachi beat him, it wasn't even close.

And people witht the same stat number doesn't mean they're even close to be even.

I wouldn't be surprised if So6p had all of The senju, uzumaki, uchiha, Hyuuga, and Jubi's abilities. So I honestly think So6p, would be much higher if 5 wasn't the highest it could be.

Commendable

Thanks!

"Anything that changes body form, uses eye techniques, or enhances the body like gates or sage mode counts as transformations." and you given sasuke 35 ? 80% sasuke abbilities=eyes

Well, he already had a 31.5 in base mode about 2 hundred chapters ago. He's improved a lot.

I am going to rep + you for the effort but you should not have included the SO6P. We do not know about his speed or intelligence. I mean for all we know he was never Minato level fast or Shikaku level smart.

This is what I feel about certain characters :

Kakashi Hatake :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 4.5
Genjutsu: 4.5
Intelligence: 5
strength: 3.5
speed: 4.5
Stamina: 3.5
handseals: 5
Total - 35.5


Minato Namikaze :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 3.5
Intelligence: 5
strength: 4
speed: 5
Stamina: 4.5
handseals: 5
Total - 37


Tobirama Senju :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 3.5
Intelligence: 5
strength: 5
speed: 4
Stamina: 5
handseals: 5
Total - 37.5


Hashirama Senju :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 4
Intelligence: 4
strength: 5
speed: 4.5
Stamina: 5
handseals: 5
Total - 37.5


Madara Uchiha :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 5
Intelligence: 4.5
strength: 4.5
speed: 4
Stamina: 5
handseals: 5
Total - 38


Obito Uchiha :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 5
Intelligence: 5
strength: 5
speed: 4.5
Stamina: 5
handseals: 5
Total - 39.5

Prime Hiruzen :

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 5
Intelligence: 5
strength: 5
speed: 5
Stamina: 5
handseals: 5
Total - 40

True about sage. But don't you think Minato, Hiruzen, Obito, and Tobirama are kind of high? And Hashirama's base should be stronger than Maddie's.

so madara and hashi same,then come nagato then minato with tobitama.

In statsm yes. But in actual power:
1. Hashi
2. Maddie
3. Obito
4/5. Nagato/Naruto

Goddamnit, why do people put Minato's stamina under Gai's, Gaara's or Jiraiya's?

Guy took Obito and the 9tails on in the same night.

No, he took a 14-15 year old Obito and the Kurama on with a whole village. And well, Gai is known for great physical abilities, Gaara had a tailed beast inside him, and Jiraiya was known to have high stamina. But thanks for you post!

I agree with what you put as Naruto's intelligence mainly because of Kurama. Kurama analysed and deduced Obito's Kamui technique ( something that Naruto and the others seemingly couldn't do, and plus he was the first to come up with it ) and if they would've stuck with it they would've beaten Obito very easily, and now it's pretty much going to be like that in almost every fight Naruto gets into. Very good prediction, although they may not all be right the numbers should be very close when the next databook actually comes out! Good job plus rep. =D

Thanks man!

Naruto should have a 5 in Speed. And Minato should have 5 in Stamina. I think this because Naruto was able to beat Ay (in speed) so that means he is the fastest living ninja and possibly the fastest ever. Minato should have a 5 in Stamina, since he had to fight in every front, every day during the Third Shinobi World War (or that is presumable) and during the Kyuubi Incident, fight the Kyuubi, seal the Kyuubi and fight Tobi - it may not seem like a lot but both are immense opponents.

This is base stats, so Naruto isn't using any of Kurama's powers.

And Minato did use a lot of chakra, but he was also known to have great chakra control. He mostly used intelligence and speed in that fight.

Obito higher than in stats than madara and hashirama?? Doubt it
& Prime hiruzen?? Where is your basis for grounds there?
YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PRIME HIRUZEN

Haha

Also give Tobirama a 5.

He's a Senju, fck's sake.

So is Tsunade, and she had a 4.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

No, he took a 14-15 year old Obito and the Kurama on with a whole village. And well, Gai is known for great physical abilities, Gaara had a tailed beast inside him, and Jiraiya was known to have high stamina. But thanks for you post!

I'm not going to list the throng of jutsus he used in a single night.

So is Tsunade, and she had a 4.

That was before she survived being cut in two.

 

[Amaterasuice]

@minator93. why you given minato 5 in handseals ? minato not show any HANDseals. and naruto need in intelligence 4.5 or 5.0, because even kurama praise naruto smart

If this is double posting, sorry. But Naruto isn't that smart.....he's been made fun of the whole show for not meing that smart. XD

The most intelligence he's shown is in the pain fight.

 

[Amaterasuice]

I'm not going to list the throng of jutsus he used in a single night.



That was before she survived being cut in two.

He was known for great chakra control, which explains why he used a lot of jutsu there.

You're mistaking Stamina with endurance. Endurance is what Tsunade has, heck, Orochimaru has been cut in half more than anyone. But stamina is actually just chakra reserves. I guess now that Minato has the yin half, he has a 5 in it. But I'm pretty sure he's about to give it to naruto

 

[Minator93]

True about sage. But don't you think Minato, Hiruzen, Obito, and Tobirama are kind of high? And Hashirama's base should be stronger than Maddie's.

The stats doesn't mean much in a fight, its merely a tool to show how much "complete" a shinobi is.

And the shinobis i.e. the Hokages and the Antagonists are in fact more complete than the rest of the shinobis and that's why they are cut above the rest in stats.

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

Nice effort, I can agree with most of them!

Personally, I wouldn't of included the SO6P. His stats should ideally be '???' since we'll never know just how powerful he was. Everyone else's scores would have to be lowered, otherwise. xD

 

[Minator93]

@minator93. why you given minato 5 in handseals ? minato not show any HANDseals.

Given the fact that he insta-teleported a TBB with complex handseals and the way he performed different sealing techs in instant + the RDS he deserves a 5.

 

[southern sun]

If this is double posting, sorry. But Naruto isn't that smart.....he's been made fun of the whole show for not meing that smart. XD

The most intelligence he's shown is in the pain fight.

who called naruto stupid? naruto called stupid only in beginnings of the show and naruto grow in smart in any arc... who show +1.5 point in intelligence except naruto? none. and even kurama praise naruto smart

 

[Amaterasuice]

who called naruto stupid? naruto called stupid only in beginnings of the show and naruto grow in smart in any arc... who show +1.5 point in intelligence except naruto? none. and even kurama praise naruto smart

Choji, Kakashi, Sasuke, and like every other character in the manga.

Someone can call someone else smart, but he didn't say he was a genius. That's why Naruto has a four. And it doesn't matter that he got a 1.5+ in intelligence before. This is now.

Nice effort, I can agree with most of them!

Personally, I wouldn't of included the SO6P. His stats should ideally be '???' since we'll never know just how powerful he was. Everyone else's scores would have to be lowered, otherwise. xD

Hahaha! Thanks!

The stats doesn't mean much in a fight, its merely a tool to show how much "complete" a shinobi is.

And the shinobis i.e. the Hokages and the Antagonists are in fact more complete than the rest of the shinobis and that's why they are cut above the rest in stats.

True! But the more complete a shinobi is, the more possible they're strong. But there are exceptions, like you've said

 

[southern sun]

Choji, Kakashi, Sasuke, and like every other character in the manga.

choji? where? kakashi and sasuke call naruto stupid only in beginnings. and genius not equals smart... i know, you want see naruto stupid,but current naruto one of the smartest man in his age

 

[zamki]

Good job mate

 

[Amaterasuice]

choji? where? kakashi and sasuke call naruto stupid only in beginnings. and genius not equals smart... i know, you want see naruto stupid,but current naruto one of the smartest man in his age

A actual genius is:
1.Exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.
Meaning intelligent, creative, or natural ability.

A 2.5 and 3 is average intelligence. I gave him a 4. Which is smart, but definately not is smart as you think he is.

Good job mate

Thanks man!

 

[Kages]

Why are Hiruzen's stats the same?
That was part 1, and that was old Hiruzen.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Why are Hiruzen's stats the same?
That was part 1, and that was old Hiruzen.

Because the current Hiruzen is still old and edo.

I personally would put him higher than Minato, if it was prime.

Purely speculation, but;

Prime Hiruzen:
Ninjutsu: 5
Tai: 5
Gen: 5
Intel: 5
Strength: 4
Speed: 4
Stamina: 3.5
Hand seals: 5
Total: 36.5

But I felt it would be looked down upon, seeing how a lot of it is speculation.

 

[southern sun]

A actual genius is:
1.Exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.
Meaning intelligent, creative, or natural ability.

wait. naruto create own s-rank jutsu this equals genius? naruto always create great plan. naruto have natural talent jinchuuriki. and naruto might easy have +2 point in smart

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You're mistaking Stamina with endurance. Endurance is what Tsunade has, heck, Orochimaru has been cut in half more than anyone. But stamina is actually just chakra reserves. I guess now that Minato has the yin half, he has a 5 in it. But I'm pretty sure he's about to give it to naruto

Okay fine, let's talk Endurance.

Minato was impaled by the Kyuubi and was still able to seal half of it inside Naruto, despite having used the Reaper Death Seal and having sealed half of the Kyuubi inside him.

No matter what arguments you bring, Minato is a 5 in Stamina, by far.

 

[Amaterasuice]

wait. naruto create own s-rank jutsu this equals genius? naruto always create great plan. naruto have natural talent jinchuuriki. and naruto might easy have +2 point in smart

Okay fine, let's talk Endurance.

Minato was impaled by the Kyuubi and was still able to seal half of it inside Naruto, despite having used the Reaper Death Seal and having sealed half of the Kyuubi inside him.

No matter what arguments you bring, Minato is a 5 in Stamina, by far.

Itachi has a 2.5 in stamina, and Sasuke ad a 3.5+cs2 chakra. Sasuke ran out of chakra first.

Itachi was smarter and had better chakra control. Same thing as Minato.

In the five kage summit arc, Sasuke showed more chakra feats then Minato has period.

Nothing you've stated has proven Minato has a 5 before he got the other half of Kurama's chakra. It doesn't mean he doesn't have it, but it also doesn't mean you're right either.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

God fcking damn it, he sealed the biggest bijuu while impaled by a 10 meter claw.

It's like I'm yelling at walls, Jesus.