Fourth Databook stats predictions

[Minator93]

1. Really ? I won't deny most of them were good and logical also backed up with manga. However there were few which was shouting "Trolling" and it could be felt from long distance lol.
2. Name/Post at least one I dare you
3. Good you admit it at least. I countered few your threads, of course never the one with logic.
4. Sure, sure. I got only label of troll about posting fake spoilers which I have no way to know they are fake. Asides this majority call me great prediction writer or good maker of theories, that it.
5. ok

1. Okay I see.

2. Well you know which I'm talking about. Maybe that was made to mock me but you know that specific thread which got deleted.

3. I'm an honest person.

4. Hey I personally enjoy your work. I think I even repped your current thread even if I didn't agree to some parts. I however haven't made anything of this sort so I didn't say anything but Minato's DB score was the thing I did some months ago and that's why I posted it.

5. Cool.

 

[QdonEms]

Only problem I have is naruto base speed. 5?? So base naruto is as fast as kcm,bm,bsm, and rm?

 

[Minator93]

Ok, that looks impressive I won't deny it. Anyway it is still not at Jirayia's level of stamina...

For now I would give Minato 4.5 in stamina.

Only feats on-screen counts, and as far as manga has shown Minato has not top-notch strength. Again I see him getting 4 or 4.5 which is being generous here.

Still it would make him getting 37 or 37.5 which are very impressive stats for No BOOST/UPGRADE Base shinobi.
It is really high score which shows how well rounded shinobi he is.

My guess in real databook is that Minato's score will be >=37 && <=38.5

Indeed for a Base Shinobi he's very well rounded.

Now there's another way to prove Minato's has a 5 in stamina and strength. Yes I won't need to talk about Minato's feats I can compare the DB score of other characters to whom Minato is superior to or has feats indicating superiority. It'll take time so for now I'll just enjoy the thread.

 

[Minator93]

Only problem I have is naruto base speed. 5?? So base naruto is as fast as kcm,bm,bsm, and rm?

Databook doesn't work that way U_U

 

[KCMNaruto]

Only problem I have is naruto base speed. 5?? So base naruto is as fast as kcm,bm,bsm, and rm?

No of course it doesn't mean that lol. I mean Itachi got 5 score in speed category. Kakashi had 4.5 in speed category.

According to Kakashi Naruto's arrival to save Sakura after Sasuke battle against Danzo Naruto's timming is greater/better then kakashi, which put Base Naruto speed at least 4.5 back then...

Now he has fought so many battles since then that it is safe to assume his base speed would rise this 0.5 point... well that my explanation at least.

Feel free to disagree wtih me

Indeed for a Base Shinobi he's very well rounded.

Now there's another way to prove Minato's has a 5 in stamina and strength. Yes I won't need to talk about Minato's feats I can compare the DB score of other characters to whom Minato is superior to or has feats indicating superiority. It'll take time so for now I'll just enjoy the thread.

Great we finally came to agreement. There was not need from me to attack or act hostile towards you about Past threads.
I am glad we could exchange thoughts without argument.

Feel free to enjoy it. Feel free to suggest me any changes or suggest which character I should add.

I will check it and if I see it correct then I will add it , have a fun

Databook doesn't work that way U_U

Exactly

 

[QdonEms]

No of course it doesn't mean that lol. I mean Itachi got 5 score in speed category. Kakashi had 4.5 in speed category.

According to Kakashi Naruto's arrival to save Sakura after Sasuke battle against Danzo Naruto's timming is greater/better then kakashi, which put Base Naruto speed at least 4.5 back then...

Now he has fought so many battles since then that it is safe to assume his base speed would rise this 0.5 point... well that my explanation at least.

Feel free to disagree wtih me

That makes sense when you explain it. Everything looks accurate then.

Great list.

 

[KCMNaruto]

That makes sense when you explain it. Everything looks accurate then.

Great list.

Thank you , that also proves why Databook stats are only used for NO BOOST/UPGRADE Base states of characters. Just take Rinnegan Sasuke or RSM Naruto as prime example:

Rinnegan Sasuke:

Nin: beyond scale(If I have to say it would be 7/8 in 10 score scale)
Tai: 4.5
Gen: beyond scale(at least 6 point)
Int: 4.5
Str: 3.5
Speed: beyond scale(If we include S/T 9/10, else it would say as it was 4.5)
Stamina: beyond scale(Hashirama's cells would put him at 6 or 7)
Handseals: 4.5

RSM Naruto:

Nin: beyond scale(If I have to say it would be 7/8 in 10 score scale)
Tai: 5
Gen: 3.5
Int: 4.5
Str: Beyond scale(RMS cloak gives a lot of strength beyond human comprehension)
Speed: beyond scale( 8 maybe even 9)
Stamina: beyond scale(TBB's chakra + Senjtsu 9 or 10)
Handseals: 2.5


You see know, WHILE they are not beyond scale in ALL categories, then still in at least one of category they would be beyond scale, that why measuring them like that is useless

 

[QdonEms]

Yeah I guess a scale of 5 wouldn't fit them if their not in base. This list is great too very accurate. btw what would kaguya's scale look like?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yeah I guess a scale of 5 wouldn't fit them if their not in base. This list is great too very accurate. btw what would kaguya's scale look like?

Thanks once again, Here I come:

Kaguya:

Nin: beyond scale(debatable because if we take it as power of Ninjutsu then she got "Beyond scale" like 10, else if we go by skills, variety then she would get 4 or maybe even 5.)
Tai: 3 (she was hardly using any lol, I guess 3 would be ok)
Gen: beyond scale due to MT(10 lol)
Int: 3 (she acted like possesed and being hungry of chakra doesn't help her use her mind)
Str: 5/6(beyond scale) (She was pretty tough and was able to block Naruto's punches, well she even endured Sakura's punch)
Speed: beyond scale(10 lol)
Stamina: beyond scale(10, wasting chakra to hop into dimenssion surely is chakra taxing)
Handseals: 2 (She hardly used any I guess 2 but this is very generous from me)

score: 33(by normal standards up to 5 scale)/ 54(beyond scale like up to10 scale)

Anticipating your possible next questions: we can not meassure Hagoromo or Hamura as they lack speed, strength, stamina, taijutsu, Genjtusu and in only Hamura's case rest of them feats. Sadly it makes us incapable of meassuring them by databook standards.

Juubi Jinchurki Madara:

Nin: beyond scale( "Beyond scale" like 10)
Tai: 5
Gen: beyond scale due to MT(10 )
Int: 5
Str: 5/6(beyond scale) (he was pretty tough)
Speed: beyond scale(8 lol)
Stamina: beyond scale(8, fought for quite long time)
Handseals: 5 (She hardly used any I guess 2 but this is very generous from me)

score: 40(by normal standards up to 5 scale)/ 57(beyond scale like up to10 scale)

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato being able to hold 'perfect sage mode' for 10 seconds proves just how little stamina he has..

Your reading capability is pitiful.

In order to use or even handle sage mode, you need "enormous chakra". There's no other way around it, you can't argue against it or try to twist it in your favour. It's manga fact. Jiraya cannot even use sage mode on his own like minato can, but guess what? Jiraya has a 5 in Stamina... even with his inferior senjutsu. It's not about about how good you are or how long you can maintain sage mode. It's about whether not not you can handle natural energy, if you can then it means you have huge stamina and great chakra control. So stop with you bs, toad sage mode was never meant to last long in the first place, nor does the duration signify how much chakra one had.

@KCMNaruto
On topic. I'd make Minatos genjutsu and strength a 4 personally and make everything else a 5.

 

[Zlatán]

No enhancement? How the hell did Naruto even improve? He didn't improve in base he gained SM, BM and KCM and their all enhancement and boosts, Naruto speed 5 my a$$

 

[KCMNaruto]

@KCMNaruto
On topic. I'd make Minatos genjutsu and strength a 4 personally and make everything else a 5.

Hmm... Minato has not genjutsu feats even if he is smart and looks like he would be good in it. We can not assume it sorry.
with strength I completly agree, although it is possible to give 4.5 same with stamina.
Rest is good as it is, unless you bring manga feats which prove me wrong.

I am open for suggestions

No enhancement? How the hell did Naruto even improve? He didn't improve in base he gained SM, BM and KCM and their all enhancement and boosts, Naruto speed 5 my a$$

First, don't act hostile or offensive it won't help it.
Second, Yes he has improved mainly due to Sage mode training which also improved his base State as proved by skirmish against Cloud Shinobi Karui and Darui, then

According to Kakashi Naruto's arrival to save Sakura after Sasuke battle against Danzo Naruto's timming is greater/better then kakashi, which put Base Naruto speed at least 4.5 back then...

This is enough proof to say Base Naruto has at least 4.5 in speed category. If you disagree then fine but bring manga feats stating otherwise because whining about it or just calling me wrong will accomplish nothing

 

[Gold Lightning]

Hmm... Minato has not genjutsu feats even if he is smart and looks like he would be good in it. We can not assume it sorry.
with strength I completly agree, although it is possible to give 4.5 same with stamina.
Rest is good as it is, unless you bring manga feats which prove me wrong.

I am open for suggestions
/QUOTE]

Reason I say 4 in strength is because jiraya has 4.5 and he's considerably bigger than minato. I'd find it hard to be'ieve that minato surpassed jiraya in physical strength. But en again guy and Lee are smaller, so I guess size isn't the reason.

Anko and Shizune have 4 in genjutsu, so I don't see how a genius like minato wouldn't at least have that. They have 0 feats for this too

 

[DHOH]

Your reading capability is pitiful.

In order to use or even handle sage mode, you need "enormous chakra". There's no other way around it, you can't argue against it or try to twist it in your favour. It's manga fact. Jiraya cannot even use sage mode on his own like minato can, but guess what? Jiraya has a 5 in Stamina... even with his inferior senjutsu. It's not about about how good you are or how long you can maintain sage mode. It's about whether not not you can handle natural energy, if you can then it means you have huge stamina and great chakra control. So stop with you bs, toad sage mode was never meant to last long in the first place, nor does the duration signify how much chakra one had.

@KCMNaruto
On topic. I'd make Minatos genjutsu and strength a 4 personally and make everything else a 5.

I only read your on topic post. I just have to say that you're a bigger minato fanboy than any other if you think this ninja deserve a 39 out of 40..
I'll do minato stats.

Nin = 4.5 that's being generous since he has like 4 ninjuts to his name and no known element.
Tai = 4.5 again, generous. Every time he engaged in close combat during the war he came out a arm short lol
Gen = 3.5 featless
Speed = 5 no explanation
Strength = 4 he's not a physical power house like the raikages
Stamina = 4 nothing special.. Holding safe mode for 10 seconds proves that.
Hand seal = 5 ..
Intell = 5
35.5

 

[BLAZE]

I only read your on topic post. I just have to say that you're a bigger minato fanboy than any other if you think this ninja deserve a 39 out of 40..
I'll do minato stats.

Nin = 4.5 that's being generous since he has like 4 ninjuts to his name and no known element.
Tai = 4.5 again, generous. Every time he engaged in close combat during the war he came out a arm short lol
Gen = 3.5 featless
Speed = 5 no explanation
Strength = 4 he's not a physical power house like the raikages
Stamina = 4 nothing special.. Holding safe mode for 10 seconds proves that.
Hand seal = 5 ..
Intell = 5
35.5

Stamina should be 5 becoz u need very large chakra pool for using SM

 

[Zlatán]

Hmm... Minato has not genjutsu feats even if he is smart and looks like he would be good in it. We can not assume it sorry.
with strength I completly agree, although it is possible to give 4.5 same with stamina.
Rest is good as it is, unless you bring manga feats which prove me wrong.

I am open for suggestions



First, don't act hostile or offensive it won't help it.
Second, Yes he has improved mainly due to Sage mode training which also improved his base State as proved by skirmish against Cloud Shinobi Karui and Darui, then

According to Kakashi Naruto's arrival to save Sakura after Sasuke battle against Danzo Naruto's timming is greater/better then kakashi, which put Base Naruto speed at least 4.5 back then...

This is enough proof to say Base Naruto has at least 4.5 in speed category. If you disagree then fine but bring manga feats stating otherwise because whining about it or just calling me wrong will accomplish nothing

He said timing, he came just in time to save her nothing to do with speed, and he didn't improve in base mode, show me manga scans where he was training without SM, BM or KCM, or won a decent fight without those boosts

 

[bencoby]

I think Shino should be higher than what you gave him totally.

I also think Rock lee should be in the 30 column totally.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I only read your on topic post. I just have to say that you're a bigger minato fanboy than any other if you think this ninja deserve a 39 out of 40..
I'll do minato stats.

Nin = 4.5 that's being generous since he has like 4 ninjuts to his name and no known element.
Tai = 4.5 again, generous. Every time he engaged in close combat during the war he came out a arm short lol
Gen = 3.5 featless
Speed = 5 no explanation
Strength = 4 he's not a physical power house like the raikages
Stamina = 4 nothing special.. Holding safe mode for 10 seconds proves that.
Hand seal = 5 ..
Intell = 5
35.5

Ninjutsu isn't based on quantity, it's quality. Gaara only throws sand, yet he has a 5. Again, you're proving to know very little about the manga. Space time jutsu (FTG), surely s rank, capability of creating jutsu (highest form of chakra manipulation), knows loads of sealing jutsu of the Uzumaki clan (those sealing jutsu were feared), summoning jutsu, senjutsu, barriers, chakra transfer, shadow clones. What does no element have to do with having a high ninjutsu score? Tsunade has no element, and she only uses medical ninjutsu, yet she has a 5 in ninjutsu. Please try again, your stupidity amuses me greatly.

So let me get this straight. Because you're bested by god level opponents, that means your taijutsu isn't good? Guess that means Ay must have a 1 in taijutsu, because he lost an arm to Sasuke.. am I right

Anko, Shizune - featless. 4 in genjutsu. So your point is completely irrelevant.

I already said his strength should be 4 at least, not sure why you're telling me again.

Stamina. You obviously have reading difficulties. I already explained this yet you just ignore. Do you actually know anything. And please tell me how you're able to count manga panel time, or how you know whether or not minato deactivated his sage mode or not or what page it even shows minato deactivate his sage mode. Why are you so dumb? Manga facts have already been provided for you, yet you're pretending you can't see. I know 100% that minato has a 5 in stamina, you can bet my account on that, the writers and editors are not as simple minded as you.

Stamina should be 5 becoz u need very large chakra pool for using SM

At least someone gets it. Please tell me, was it hard to just read the manga and understand?

 

[BLAZE]

At least someone gets it. Please tell me, was it hard to just read the manga and understand?

Not for me 4
btw Minato did Knew at least one element dats why he was trying to fuse his Rasengan with it if i remember correctly

 

[DHOH]

Stamina should be 5 becoz u need very large chakra pool for using SM

That could explain why he could only stay in sage mode for ten seconds. Because his chakra pool wasn't large enough to mix a lot of natural and spiritual energy.