Forgiveness

[Deadlift]

What are your thoughts about it? Someone thinks it is a great virtue, but speaking with people I realize that way more think that it is a stupid/naive thing, and if someone harms you, you have to take your revenge.

Discuss

 

[Form]

Forgiveness is something I give someone once. Depending on the magnitude of what I forgive them for, chances are that I will disassociate myself with the person. It really depends on who you forgive for what. Does it involve second chances like cheating? Or is it something like someone spilling punch on someone's prom dress. Depends on the context. Forgiveness doesn't always mean a second chance, but I do see what you mean.

For me, I am not the type to just forgive everything. I won't get revenge, but I won't forgive either if what happened was bad enough.

 

[Marin]

The greatest thing ever. Extremely hard and extremely rare.

 

[rickjamesbitceh]

If the suffering caused wasn't intentional, otherwise no. I wouldn't want to perpetuate the abuse. A person too willing to forgive is prone to further abuse.

 

[~Ethereal~]

I can't really forgive, as I can't erase the things they did to me.

 

[Deadlift]

If the suffering caused wasn't intentional, otherwise no. I wouldn't want to perpetuate the abuse. A person too willing to forgive is prone to further abuse.

True, but you will agree with me that to forgive someone takes a great control over instinct. Often revenge is nothing but the easy way to deal with a problem

 

[Joon]

Forgiveness is not for the other person, it is for you.

 

[Deadlift]

Forgiveness is not for the other person, it is for you.

I've already heard it. It's one of the main chards of ethic relativism, like the two things were in opposition

 

[JENchuuriki]

Forgiving someone is not just for the person who wronged you, it is also for you to be free from hatred and have peace of mind.

 

[Dannie]

My take on this is that it depends on the degree of forgiveness. How far will I go to forgive someone? This truly depends on what played out and their mindset behind their actions.

>I forgave this person for accidentally smacking me in the face with a Tennis racket because they didn't intend to do it.

>If it was intentional like he wanted to beat the shit outta me then I would probably not forgive him.

You can forgive someone, but that shouldn't automatically mean that the other person shouldn't care about what they did, and just accept your forgiveness without any responsibility. The person who faulted against you has to ask you to forgive them in order to be forgiven. They should acknowledge what they did was wrong. If you don't forgive someone, that doesn't mean that you can't move on with your life. You don't keep thinking about the person can't didn't forgive, you just ignore them and go to the next page.

Anyway, I think forgiveness is for yourself. Whoever hurts you, whether they deserve to be forgiven or not isn't really the issue, as long as you have forgiven that person, I think that's what actually matters, because then you can hold no more grudges, and finally move on and do other things besides harboring hatred.

Of course this isn't always the case, and it is not easy to do. Depending on certain events and what has caused you to feel this way, some people are just impossible to forgive.

There are others who don't care about your forgiveness at all, and actually enjoy making you suffer.

 

[rickjamesbitceh]

True, but you will agree with me that to forgive someone takes a great control over instinct. Often revenge is nothing but the easy way to deal with a problem

I think it's an act of self-indulgence. Telling someone you've forgiven them is the same as saying you're the bigger person. It's like reproaching them. Well, that would mean you're still entangled with the person somehow. What forgiveness really should entail is coming up over that bump in the road and not sparing it a second thought.

 

[Don Drama]

"To err is human, to forgive is divine"

meaning people makes mistake only.. only God forgives. Thus, forgiveness is not our luxury to give.

 

[DominiqueX]

If someone betrayed me or inflicts physical/mental violence and damage to me intentionally, then I usually don't forgive that person. In general, I'm a very unforgiving person. Everyone has to decide for oneself how important forgiveness is in one's life.

 

[Don Drama]

In addition.. beauty matters when it comes to forgiveness.

 

[UchiGOD]

What are your thoughts about it? Someone thinks it is a great virtue, but speaking with people I realize that way more think that it is a stupid/naive thing, and if someone harms you, you have to take your revenge.

Discuss

So there are still some uchihas alive. Nice to meet you xD

Forgiveness is so hard,but,it's the best way to heal your wounds and get over your pain. I am against revenge,becuz it shows how narrow minded u are that u couldn't forget a bad thing about someone,and how stupid u are for doing a mistake twice that u know is wrong,and unforgivable!

 

[Deadlift]

I think it's an act of self-indulgence. Telling someone you've forgiven them is the same as saying you're the bigger person. It's like reproaching them. Well, that would mean you're still entangled with the person somehow. What forgiveness really should entail is coming up over that bump in the road and not sparing it a second thought.

And I'm not saying anything about that, but there is difference between forgiving a person and stop and forgiving a person in order to tell him/her "I forgive you" putting it like you were an indulgent superior. This is revenge. Maybe a little more subtle than punching the guy in his face, but still revenge.

"To err is human, to forgive is divine"

meaning people makes mistake only.. only God forgives. Thus, forgiveness is not our luxury to give.

Which church do you belong? I believe there's a big mistake here. Jesus was merciful and taught us to forgive. If you are a Christian you are called to be the most Christ-like you can.

If someone betrayed me or inflicts physical/mental violence and damage to me intentionally, then I usually don't forgive that person. In general, I'm a very unforgiving person. Everyone has to decide for oneself how important forgiveness is in one's life.

I will ask you the same question I asked richjamesbitceh (damn difficult names to remember xd): do you agree with me that to forgive someone takes a great control over one's proper instincts?

 

[rickjamesbitceh]

There's no difference between thinking it and saying it aloud. In either case you're trying to convince yourself.

 

[~Ethereal~]

I also want to shoot him.

 

[Deadlift]

There's no difference between thinking it and saying it aloud. In either case you're trying to convince yourself.

Trying to convince yourself is not bad. Everybody needs motivation throughout life. But if you think it you're forgiving, if you say it in the way you put it, you're just disguising your revenge

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

To derp is human, to forgive is derpvine.