Forest of Death Gaara VS Kankuro & Temari

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Kankuro and Temari feared their younger brother because he killed for sport, was incredibly powerful and had no mercy for his siblings either. He once threatened to kill Kankuro but learning later how strong both of these ninja were too, even as genin with low jonin level abilities...could they fight back?

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Gaara stomps low diff. They won't even be able to counter the speed of his sand and Kankurou is pretty horrible when it comes to CQC. Even Shino wrecked him so.:|
 

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Without Gai himself Lol , how do u see that playing out?

Well first thing is first, you would have to restrict Gaara's full transformation but I think they can take on Gaara's partial transformation as a team, something 2T CM Sasuke wasn't able to do because of his speed increase as a result of the transformation.

If you do that, I see Lee going 5 Gates, spanking around Gaara as usual. Neji is a bad matchup for Kankurou because Kankurou needs space to manipulate his puppets and his gentle fist strikes will be able to get Kankurou. Then once Neji defeats Kankurou mid diff he goes and helps Tenten with Temari. Tenten alone cannot take Temari down as shown in their matchup in the CE Prelims. Lee will defeat Gaara because of his sheer speed but if Gaara can outlast it becomes a problem.

Restrict Gaara's transformation and it might be a mid to high diff win for Team Gai.
 

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Well first thing is first, you would have to restrict Gaara's full transformation but I think they can take on Gaara's partial transformation as a team, something 2T CM Sasuke wasn't able to do because of his speed increase as a result of the transformation.

If you do that, I see Lee going 5 Gates, spanking around Gaara as usual. Neji is a bad matchup for Kankurou because Kankurou needs space to manipulate his puppets and his gentle fist strikes will be able to get Kankurou. Then once Neji defeats Kankurou mid diff he goes and helps Tenten with Temari. Tenten alone cannot take Temari down as shown in their matchup in the CE Prelims. Lee will defeat Gaara because of his sheer speed but if Gaara can outlast it becomes a problem.

Restrict Gaara's transformation and it might be a mid to high diff win for Team Gai.

Anything bar his full size transformation gets low to mid diff imo , he gets taken down in Base since Neji would inform Lee of Gaaras strong chakra so he'll remove weights at the start and Lee is literally Fast enough to surprise Kill both Temari and kangkuro with a kunai simultaneously and still have enough time to troll slap gaara and bring him into the air with lotus , from there Neji using byakugan would've already shunshined into the air to meet gaara and then they proceed to team combo him with jyuken/goken mix tape , bypassing Sand Armor and destroying his organs and outer body before gaara even knows wat hit em , literally.

Gaara gets destroyed and fight ends in no more than 3 minutes and as a side note , Neji can alternatively take both Kangkuro and Temari in less than 1.2 seconds via shunshin blitz since he's way faster than Shika. Lol
 
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If intent is to kill, I think Gaara might actually lose because his sand can't protect him from Kankuro's poison.
 

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If intent is to kill, I think Gaara might actually lose because his sand can't protect him from Kankuro's poison.

Anything poisonous has to go through his sand defense and the personal sand shield he has over his body
 

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Anything poisonous has to go through his sand defense and the personal sand shield he has over his body

I'm talking about poison bomb...The one that releases gas poison into the air? The one that got Shino? I highly doubt his shield can protect him from that...but it will give him enough time to kill Kankuro before dying himself.
So I guess a stalemate with both sides dead.
 

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I'm talking about poison bomb...The one that releases gas poison into the air? The one that got Shino? I highly doubt his shield can protect him from that...but it will give him enough time to kill Kankuro before dying himself.
So I guess a stalemate with both sides dead.

Ah word, I forgot about that one, my bad lol
 

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I'm still surprised everybody thinks this is a swamp. Gaara doesn't have any of his Kimimaro battle feats available and Kankuro & Temari are shown to basically have low Jonin level abilities.
 

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If intent is to kill, I think Gaara might actually lose because his sand can't protect him from Kankuro's poison.

He could've likely added poison bombs in the 2 months prep for the chunin finals so i dont think we can add that feat to this fight imo.

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I'm still surprised everybody thinks this is a swamp. Gaara doesn't have any of his Kimimaro battle feats available and Kankuro & Temari are shown to basically have low Jonin level abilities.

He doesn't need those feats , their stats are basically mid Chunin Level with physical stats inferior to weighted Lee which means the sand would easily catch them before they can do much of anything so he stomps.
 
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Anything bar his full size transformation gets low to mid diff imo , he gets taken down in Base since Neji would inform Lee of Gaaras strong chakra so he'll remove weights at the start and Lee is literally Fast enough to surprise Kill both Temari and kangkuro with a kunai simultaneously and still have enough time to troll slap gaara and bring him into the air with lotus , from there Neji using byakugan would've already shunshined into the air to meet gaara and then they proceed to team combo him with jyuken/goken mix tape , bypassing Sand Armor and destroying his organs and outer body before gaara even knows wat hit em , literally.

I agree with Neji informing Lee about his sand armor and how to get though that defense you are going to need extreme speed which is where his Taijutsu comes in. Neji is so perceptive as shown in his fight with Kidomaru and how he analyzed the Gaara vs Lee.

How I think this fight will be divided up is that Base Lee starts by taking on Gaara with Neji and Tenten taking the other two. Bruh Neji defeats Kankurou pretty easily. What are his puppets going to do exactly, he uses gentle fist and destroys all of them because gentle fist destroys all things made of chakra. He destoys those chakra threads which connect the puppets and it crumbles. Neji backs up Tenten because enten alone can't do anything with her tools as they all get blown away. Neji dodges her wind attacks and gets in a CQC matchup in which he can dominate because his Hyuga style Taijutsu is really good. Temari doesn't move at the speed of KN0 Naruto so Neji can react to her attacks. I mean he as still able to use Kaiten when Naruto was coming at him with a punch so.

I agree with what you are saying about the outcome of the fight it's just who helps out who I am picturing differently. Lee goes 5 Gates takes out Gaara then Neji after helping Tenten goes to him and finishes him off. Neji is the crucial player here.

Gaara gets destroyed and fight ends in no more than 3 minutes and as a side note , Neji can alternatively take both Kangkuro and Temari in less than 1.2 seconds via shunshin blitz since he's way faster than Shika. Lol

Yes Base Gaara gets destroyed quickly as the only chance he has is by at least transforming to his partial transformation where his speed increases significantly. Neji definitely beats both Temari and Kankurou.
He doesn't need those feats , their stats are basically mid Chunin Level with physical stats inferior to weighted Lee which means the sand would easily catch them before they can do much of anything so he stomps.

Bruh what, Temari blocked a weighted Lee's Leaf Hurricane kick with her fan. I believe they can counter his sand attacks for awhile but they will get exhausted easily and that's when Gaara's endurance and his relentless attacks take over. To get through Gaara's sand Armour you gotta to have speed, none of which Temari or Kankurou have shown explicitly.
 
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He could've likely added poison bombs in the 2 months prep for the chunin finals so i dont think we can add that feat to this fight imo.

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I see. Well in that case, Gaara stomps.

But the poison bombs means there's a version of Gaara Kankuro could defeat right? ^^
 

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I see. Well in that case, Gaara stomps.

But the poison bombs means there's a version of Gaara Kankuro could defeat right? ^^

Lol 1 VS 1 Gaara stomps him easily.

Yes Base Gaara gets destroyed quickly as the only chance he has is by at least transforming to his partial transformation where his speed increases significantly. Neji definitely beats both Temari and Kankurou.

Even if goes partial , Both Neji and 3rd Gated Lee are enough to neg/low diff him at best and Neji can solo.

Bruh what, Temari blocked a weighted Lee's Leaf Hurricane kick with her fan. I believe they can counter his sand attacks for awhile but they will get exhausted easily and that's when Gaara's endurance and his relentless attacks take over. To get through Gaara's sand Armour you gotta to have speed, none of which Temari or Kankurou have shown explicitly.

Her blocking Lees kick doesn't mean she can deal with Gaara's that can target her from multiple sides not to mention his sand wasn't too far behind Unweighted Lee speed.
 
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Are we talking about Kankuro and Temari at the chuunin exams or the Sasuke retrieval arc where Kankuro had two puppets and Temari had much stronger attacks?

Kankuro and Temari lose low difficulty if they are CE versions. Otherwise KKM>>>chidori so there is a chance it can be summoned but no one here is fast enough to dodge sand attacks so I'd say Gaara still wins mid difficulty.
 

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Even if goes partial , Both Neji and 3rd Gated Lee are enough to neg/low diff him at best and Neji can solo.

I agree Neji can solo if Gaara enters his partial transformation. But does Gaara need to enter his partial transformation?

If Lee enters the 5th gate(which Gaara tanked)..he's definitely removed himself from the fight seeing as his muscles started tearing at the 4th gate iirc.

Gaara's sand couldn't catch up with Gaara during Lee's pummeling because Lee was literally running in circles with Gaara. If Lee continued attacking Gaara in a single linear format (which is what Neji is about) the sand would have caught up even when Lee was in 5th gate.
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And the brute strength of the 5th gate won't break through Gaara's sand shield because it couldn't eradicate Gaara's armor of sand entirely which is stated in the Databook to be weaker than Gaara's sand shield defensively. Lee isn't defeating Gaara.

Neji? The general consensus i've seen in Neji vs Gaara match ups is that Neji disables the chakra in the sand shield (very plausible) and goes on to wreck Gaara's sand armor?

I have 2 problems with this scenario.

- If Neji disables Gaara's chakra in the sand shield, the assumption is that the sand will become slow. Which isn't entirely true. We've seen Gaara manipulate Chakra-less sand in a fast manner too (sand tsunami and basically his fight against Deidara..) So even even Neji disables the chakra in the sand he's not stopping the automatic protection and Gaara can still manipulate that sand meaning Neji will likely be on the defensive most of the time.

-If we assume Neji gets up close with Gaara bypassing his initial sand shield defense, how exactly is he taking the armor of sand down in one strike? He used 64 palms on Kidomaru and kido came out unscathed by shielding himself in armor similar to Gaara's armor of sand.


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It's portrayed that a target can't move/counter once 64 palms is initiated but even though the armor gets wrecked, Gaara can stand, proceed to attack Neji with the chakra-less sand Neji supposedly bypassed and re-wear the armor while Neji is on the defensive.

Lee's method of fighting especially with gates (destruction everywhere)more or less shows he and Neji can't attack in tandem. It would have to be 1 VS 1 and Gaara probably outlasts them both.
 
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