[Spoilers] For those who don't understand sasukes plan

[blue22]

I see a lot of confusion on the base of why sasuke is doing what he is doing and to me it seems pretty simple;

Right now, every single person in the world is under IT and has no idea what is going on

therefore, if sasuke kills naruto, sakura, and kakashi, than figures out a way to release everyone from IT they will have to take his story on what happened once everyone went under IT, which I'm sure would have naruto sacrificing himself and telling him to look after the next generation

if the five kages are dead when this happens, than the people will look towards a new leader, and since sasuke would be the "hero" who saved the world, logically it would probably be him

I have no doubt some people would distrust him, but he'd have the support of a lot of people, and he would than be able to implement his revolution, not through power, but through actual support from the people

(its kind of like we have to believe everything the so6p says because there was no one around to disprove him)

 

[itachi4real]

Ohhhhhhhhh mmmmkay

 

[Tenshi Hikari]

Ok. If you say so. Hehehe

 

[Kαmi]

Pretty solid point. I was thinking a little deeper than that though, that the execution of the Kages and capturing the Bijuus tie in to the past shinobi system and him considering the future of the system but not considering the present like Naruto is.

But I like your point, that would work out for Sasuke pretty well.

 

[BLAZE]

Good Point[though its still cruel] but no need in telling them aka haters this imo
Though personally i doubt he will kill kakashi;sakura or even Naruto but then its Sasuke we r talking about

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Thats a stupid plan as the people of his own village like shikamaru/kiba/shino would be the first to call bullshit on his story and him trying to be a leader

And then the whole of kumogakure and the sand siblings like temari/kankuro

shikamaru would also figure out that he was the one to kill them

 

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Wrong thread. Please get out.

OT: Yeah it seems plausible.

 

[Umari Senju]

Good Point[though its still cruel] but no need in telling them aka haters this imo
Though personally i doubt he will kill kakashi;sakura or even Naruto but then its Sasuke we r talking about

why do Sasuke/naruto fans always have to bring up the "haters" with every comment made about one or the other?

There's nothing to hate on here. The OP brought up a very good Scenario that would work out in Sasuke's favor. Let's just leave it at that.

OT: this could so work for Sasuke..but he doesn't seem the type to scheme like this. It would probably be Suigetsu or a Karin who would probably come up with that idea and suggest it to Sasuke. But either way it could work out rather well as underhanded as it may be.

Thats a stupid plan as the people of his own village like shikamaru/kiba/shino would be the first to call bullshit on his story and him trying to be a leader

And then the whole of kumogakure and the sand siblings like temari/kankuro

shikamaru would also figure out that he was the one to kill them

It's not so stupid. What you just mentioned above would go great with the OP's scenario. People like Shikamaru and others would be a great way to help bring to light what Sasuke did creating those elements of drama we love to read so much

 

[SasukexNeji]

Shikamaru and Hinata would find out through investigation and women's intuition.

 

[Ultimateone]

here's the thing though, nobody will believe him. oh, so you are the only one who managed to survive the final fight? think about who he would be telling this too. nobody from konoha is gonna buy thats he was the only survivor of team 7. nobody from kumo either. not to mention the kage mysteriously die while they all know the kage were fighting with them and got caught in the IT. there is no way any story he tells them sticks up. which would lead to him needing to kill all the alliance ninjas. there is no scenario this works out well for him.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the one thing OP conveniently failed to elaborate on was how Sasuke was going to explain how the Gokage suddenly ended up dead. It is still a fail plan no matter how it's sliced, because those 5 will just end up being replaced by another 5. The feudal lords are the top dogs in the system, not the Kage. No matter how Sasuke spins his story, there isn't a single person that is willing to humor the thought of giving 1 person complete control over everybody else anyway. It isn't that Sasuke's plan is hard to understand for anybody, it's just that it's stupid. Sell it however way you want, but there is always going to be holes in it somewhere.

 

[GhostProject]

I think that may be his plan, however, if he wishes to implement a new system he's still going to have to explain quite a few things.

Assuming the world believes him 100%:

The 5 Kage are dead, so each nation would first want to elect a new hokage. Sasuke opposes this and would need to tell them that they need to unite instead which leads to distrust of him.

What happens if the countries want a representative? If Sasuke wants it to be worked out peacefully, then he's going to have to work with NEW Kage who are probably highly defensive because their nations are vulnerable due to their leaders being killed. Sasuke would've had a better chance working things out with the current Kage than with these new people.

I don't think he really plans on using anything but force here, but that's my deduction

 

[HouKage]

I see a lot of confusion on the base of why sasuke is doing what he is doing and to me it seems pretty simple;

Right now, every single person in the world is under IT and has no idea what is going on

therefore, if sasuke kills naruto, sakura, and kakashi, than figures out a way to release everyone from IT they will have to take his story on what happened once everyone went under IT, which I'm sure would have naruto sacrificing himself and telling him to look after the next generation

if the five kages are dead when this happens, than the people will look towards a new leader, and since sasuke would be the "hero" who saved the world, logically it would probably be him

I have no doubt some people would distrust him, but he'd have the support of a lot of people, and he would than be able to implement his revolution, not through power, but through actual support from the people

(its kind of like we have to believe everything the so6p says because there was no one around to disprove him)

what means killing Sakura and Kakashi too

 

[blue22]

here's the thing though, nobody will believe him. oh, so you are the only one who managed to survive the final fight? think about who he would be telling this too. nobody from konoha is gonna buy thats he was the only survivor of team 7. nobody from kumo either. not to mention the kage mysteriously die while they all know the kage were fighting with them and got caught in the IT. there is no way any story he tells them sticks up. which would lead to him needing to kill all the alliance ninjas. there is no scenario this works out well for him.

even if some people don't believe him, what are they going to do about it? they won't be able to find any evidence to prove his story wrong, he could honestly say naruto gave his life to protect me, do you really think anyones gonna disagree with naruto's desire to save sasuke? the point is that they have to accept his version of the truth as there would be no way to disprove it

the one thing OP conveniently failed to elaborate on was how Sasuke was going to explain how the Gokage suddenly ended up dead. It is still a fail plan no matter how it's sliced, because those 5 will just end up being replaced by another 5. The feudal lords are the top dogs in the system, not the Kage. No matter how Sasuke spins his story, there isn't a single person that is willing to humor the thought of giving 1 person complete control over everybody else anyway. It isn't that Sasuke's plan is hard to understand for anybody, it's just that it's stupid. Sell it however way you want, but there is always going to be holes in it somewhere.

i don't think that sasuke wants complete control over everything, i really don't know what his end game of this revolution would be as kishi hasn't told us yet, i do know that whatever his plan is, the start of it would be to kill naruto kakashi sakura and the five cages thus making him the strongest ninja and the "savior" of the world

I think that may be his plan, however, if he wishes to implement a new system he's still going to have to explain quite a few things.

Assuming the world believes him 100%:

The 5 Kage are dead, so each nation would first want to elect a new hokage. Sasuke opposes this and would need to tell them that they need to unite instead which leads to distrust of him.

What happens if the countries want a representative? If Sasuke wants it to be worked out peacefully, then he's going to have to work with NEW Kage who are probably highly defensive because their nations are vulnerable due to their leaders being killed. Sasuke would've had a better chance working things out with the current Kage than with these new people.

I don't think he really plans on using anything but force here, but that's my deduction

i think that he does plan to do it peacefully as doing it with force doesn't accomplish much as soon as he dies than there will just be another revolution, I think after he makes himself out to be the "savior" of the world he will start to get followers and as the strongest ninja in the world if naruto isn't there than his voice will definitely carry some weight

 

[Ultimateone]

even if some people don't believe him, what are they going to do about it? they won't be able to find any evidence to prove his story wrong, he could honestly say naruto gave his life to protect me, do you really think anyones gonna disagree with naruto's desire to save sasuke? the point is that they have to accept his version of the truth as there would be no way to disprove it



i don't think that sasuke wants complete control over everything, i really don't know what his end game of this revolution would be as kishi hasn't told us yet, i do know that whatever his plan is, the start of it would be to kill naruto kakashi sakura and the five cages thus making him the strongest ninja and the "savior" of the world



i think that he does plan to do it peacefully as doing it with force doesn't accomplish much as soon as he dies than there will just be another revolution, I think after he makes himself out to be the "savior" of the world he will start to get followers and as the strongest ninja in the world if naruto isn't there than his voice will definitely carry some weight

it's not that some people won't believe him, none will. all those people in the shinobi alliance know who he is. it's way to convenient that the strongest shinobi they know sacrificed himself to save sasuke. along with sakura and kakashi also dying. not to mention the mysterious death of the 5 kage. also, he basically is killing the only person that still even seeks his redemption. without naruto or sakura for that matter, sasuke means almost nothing to those other shinobi anymore.

 

[Zlatán]

Seems pretty logical

 

[AntonChigurh]

it's not that some people won't believe him, none will. all those people in the shinobi alliance know who he is. it's way to convenient that the strongest shinobi they know sacrificed himself to save sasuke. along with sakura and kakashi also dying. not to mention the mysterious death of the 5 kage. also, he basically is killing the only person that still even seeks his redemption. without naruto or sakura for that matter, sasuke means almost nothing to those other shinobi anymore.

Congrats sir, you just destroyed Sasuke's theory

 

[WalksInShadows]

i don't think that sasuke wants complete control over everything, i really don't know what his end game of this revolution would be as kishi hasn't told us yet, i do know that whatever his plan is, the start of it would be to kill naruto kakashi sakura and the five cages thus making him the strongest ninja and the "savior" of the world

Sasuke's whole speech was about how he was going to singlehandedly rescue the ninja world out of darkness by destroying the current system and instituting his own, starting with executing the Gokage. That says in no uncertain terms that he plans on being at its head, especially if him declaring himself a future Hokage meant anything.