For people who think that Naruto has relied on Kurama too much

[chaos control]

He really hasn't. You guys do realize that he has only had BM for one night in manga time right? It has really probably only been a few hours at most! Maybe even just a few minutes. How could he possibly have relied on Kurama too much when he just got the mode that night? He just got KCM one or two days ago in manga time (and he could use that mode independently of Kurama's will, so that mode didn't even rely on Kurama). Any usage of Kurama before this came in the form of that besserk nine tails state that resulted from extreme rage. Naruto never went into that state voluntarily. Kurama simply fed off of Naruto's rage, and Naruto's mental weakness and instability at those moments allowed Kurama's will and power to take over. Therefore, those States were forced upon Naruto. Naruto didn't rely on them or choose to go into them. The only other usage of Kurama were those few times in part one where Naruto asked Kurama for chakara, and that was only about 4 times (against Neji, against Gaara (who was also using his bijuu) against Itachi/Kisame, and to summon Gamabunta in order to save himself when Jiraiya pushed him off of a cliff. The battle with Haku and the instance at the valley of end both came from rage.) In conclusion, aside from those 4 times in part 1, Naruto really never relied on Kurama that much until these most recent war battles. Everything else was involuntary and Naruto can not be faulted for those (so cut the guy some slack!). If you really want to criticise someone, criticise Bee. He has been a perfect jinchuuriki for years and he uses Gyuki quite often. The same goes for Yagura the fourth mizukage. Criticise Shino and the whole aburame clan because those bugs are living beings too and Shino's clan always relies on them. Criticise the Inuzuka clan because they rely a lot on their dogs. Criticise Hiruzen because he uses Enma quite often. Critcise Tsunade and Jiraiya because they summon toads and slugs a lot. Criticise Orochimaru because he uses a lot of snakes and he switches bodies. Criticise Nagato because he sometimes summons the animals of the animal path. Criticise Hanzo because he uses that salamander. I'm sure you get my point by now.

 

[GenKiDama]

Goodjob wasting your time writing all that, nobody will read it because naruto has been using kurama's power like it's crack. The whole alliance would be dead by now without it.

 

[Deadai]

I will read this once you space it out

I do not care to strain my eyes trying to read a wall of text thank you.

 

[take it easy]

great thread.

 

[Tazzilla88]

The last time Naruto won an important battle without kurama's involvement?

 

[chaos control]

The last time Baritone won an important battle without kurama's involvement?

3rd raikage.
Kakazu

Did auto correct get you?

 

[Fecal Matter]

But can he beat my fave?

That is the question.

The answer is yes, but that is the question...

 

[-immortal-]

Goodjob wasting your time writing all that, nobody will read it because naruto has been using kurama's power like it's crack. The whole alliance would be dead by now without it.

this is the true story

 

[nandachikara]

He really hasn't. You guys do realize that he has only had BM for one night in manga time right? It has really probably only been a few hours at most! Maybe even just a few minutes. How could he possibly have relied on Kurama too much when he just got the mode that night? He just got KCM one or two days ago in manga time (and he could use that mode independently of Kurama's will, so that mode didn't even rely on Kurama). Any usage of Kurama before this came in the form of that besserk nine tails state that resulted from extreme rage. Naruto never went into that state voluntarily. Kurama simply fed off of Naruto's rage, and Naruto's mental weakness and instability at those moments allowed Kurama's will and power to take over. Therefore, those States were forced upon Naruto. Naruto didn't rely on them or choose to go into them. The only other usage of Kurama were those few times in part one where Naruto asked Kurama for chakara, and that was only about 4 times (against Neji, against Gaara (who was also using his bijuu) against Itachi/Kisame, and to summon Gamabunta in order to save himself when Jiraiya pushed him off of a cliff. The battle with Haku and the instance at the valley of end both came from rage.) In conclusion, aside from those 4 times in part 1, Naruto really never relied on Kurama that much until these most recent war battles. Everything else was involuntary and Naruto can not be faulted for those (so cut the guy some slack!). If you really want to criticise someone, criticise Bee. He has been a perfect jinchuuriki for years and he uses Gyuki quite often. The same goes for Yagura the fourth mizukage. Criticise Shino and the whole aburame clan because those bugs are living beings too and Shino's clan always relies on them. Criticise the Inuzuka clan because they rely a lot on their dogs. Criticise Hiruzen because he uses Enma quite often. Critcise Tsunade and Jiraiya because they summon toads and slugs a lot. Criticise Orochimaru because he uses a lot of snakes and he switches bodies. Criticise Nagato because he sometimes summons the animals of the animal path. Criticise Hanzo because he uses that salamander. I'm sure you get my point by now.

I read everything my good friend and you are quite right,instead of people saying naruto has be using kurama..they should say kurama has been using naruto to rampage...if naruto feels rage and hate,kurama takes over because he is the god of hatred..and he never let's any chance to cause chaos slip by,to the detriment of naruto's health and body..naruto only used kurama power willingly four times as chaos control stated,as for the rest he was being used because of his mental instability(rage and hate) at that point in time.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I think there are only 3 fights where naruto hasnt used kurama.

 

[Tazzilla88]

3rd raikage.
Kakazu

Did auto correct get you?

It did Damn autocorrect
He started the battle with 3rd raikage using kcm and used the bijuus psychic link to get info on the third raikage.
That said, kakuzu would be fine I suppose. So that makes three battles he's won without using the ninetails chakra throughout the series. Kiba, kakuzu, and kabuto
It's been used and used again, and now its not just Naruto using his power its the whole alliance

 

[Dark Matter Thief]

Bottom line, Naruto is a little b***h! Can't do nothing right without Vulpix giving him assistance.


Fact: Naruto would be long dead if it wasn't for Kurama.

 

[AlphaScythian]

It did Damn autocorrect
He started the battle with 3rd raikage using kcm and used the bijuus psychic link to get info on the third raikage.
That said, kakuzu would be fine I suppose. So that makes three battles he's won without using the ninetails chakra throughout the series. Kiba, kakuzu, and kabuto
It's been used and used again, and now its not just Naruto using his power its the whole alliance

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Even vs kakuzu he had some of kurama power. look at the eyes.

 

[-immortal-]

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Even vs kakuzu he had some of kurama power. look at the eyes.

whenever nardo went angry he got those eyes. dont lie to yourself. and take a step towards reallity

 

[take it easy]

Bottom line, Naruto is a little b***h! Can't do nothing right without Vulpix giving him assistance.


Fact: Naruto would be long dead if it wasn't for Kurama.

no kurama=living parents=cool jutsu like hirashin in young age

 

[-immortal-]

no kurama=living parents=cool jutsu like hirashin in young age

this is current nardo

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stop all the lies and walk with me towards reallity

 

[chaos control]

It did Damn autocorrect
He started the battle with 3rd raikage using kcm and used the bijuus psychic link to get info on the third raikage.
That said, kakuzu would be fine I suppose. So that makes three battles he's won without using the ninetails chakra throughout the series. Kiba, kakuzu, and kabuto
It's been used and used again, and now its not just Naruto using his power its the whole alliance

KCM was won by Naruto. Therefore it was Naruto's own power since he could use it independently of Kurama's will. He didn't use the bijuu telepathy to talk to Gyuki. He used that rubber guy's connection jutsu. Bee simply switched with Gyuki to let Naruto talk to Gyuki. As for the alliance using it in the current recent events, I said in my original opening that Naruto hasn't really been using Kurama that much until now (and remember, this is just one day. One day is not a lot. He just got it today in manga time.)

 

[Honord Sage]

Some people are just jealous of Naruto probably the Sasuke Fanatics not to be confuse with Sasuke Fans the Fanatics believe Sasuke is the Hero and His way is the right way.

 

[-immortal-]

Some people are just jealous of Naruto probably the Sasuke Fanatics not to be confuse with Sasuke Fans the Fanatics believe Sasuke is the Hero and His way is the right way.

delete this post. i know what you meant this the right way but it will start a butthurt war

 

[chaos control]

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Even vs kakuzu he had some of kurama power. look at the eyes.

Just look at Pain to the earth's post beneath your original post. The eyes didn't really do anything. They were just angry eyes. Naruto did all the work in this one.