[Discussion] First Division is HACKED

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Im not good at Bleach Characters and dont read as closely as i do with Naruto and One Piece

But the dude Juha Black is facing is SOOOOo Hack the First Divison in all was a hack squad they all seem equal or stronger than the Head Captain at the Soul Society.
Creator of Bleach must have had an hand full letting Juha defeating em. Hes so strong i dont want too see other characters fight.

Picture the Soul King if he even is a fighter
 

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Im not good at Bleach Characters and dont read as closely as i do with Naruto and One Piece

But the dude Juha Black is facing is SOOOOo Hack the First Divison in all was a hack squad they all seem equal or stronger than the Head Captain at the Soul Society.
Creator of Bleach must have had an hand full letting Juha defeating em. Hes so strong i dont want too see other characters fight.

Picture the Soul King if he even is a fighter
I'm pretty sure that ink can't touch bankai Yama so the monk has to show more,well just have to see what him having all the darkness can do.
 

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I'm pretty sure that ink can't touch bankai Yama so the monk has to show more,well just have to see what him having all the darkness can do.
considering that juha was like, he still can't sense any reiatsu from him. it's safe to say he would be able to touch yama. especially considering what he's doing to juha and he just entered shikai. yama doesn't even come close to the epicness of what he's doing. by comparison, yama is kinda dissapointing considering he got one shotted after he lost his bankai.
 

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considering that juha was like, he still can't sense any reiatsu from him. it's safe to say he would be able to touch yama. especially considering what he's doing to juha and he just entered shikai. yama doesn't even come close to the epicness of what he's doing. by comparison, yama is kinda dissapointing considering he got one shotted after he lost his bankai.
He can't sense any reiatsu so? That just means the monk is hiding it somehow....Yama zanpacto is the strongest said multiple times already in the manga...what you expect it's his bankai that got stolen he know he can't beat it so he did not even attempt to fight back.

Just wait untill Bach starts useing it,it is the only thing he has now thanks to his sword being powerless.
 

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He can't sense any reiatsu so? That just means the monk is hiding it somehow....Yama zanpacto is the strongest said multiple times already in the manga...what you expect it's his bankai that got stolen he know he can't beat it so he did not even attempt to fight back.

Just wait untill Bach starts useing it,it is the only thing he has now thanks to his sword being powerless.
the only times that we have seen that someone is unable to sense reiatsu is if there is a barrier up. as this is a fight, there is no reason to have a barrier blocking reiatsu as nobody is hiding. the other time we have sen this is when someone is way stronger than the other person ie, ichigo and aizen when they were at their strongest. could be that ichibei is that much stronger than him, we just don't know. yama's zanpakuto has the strongest attack power, maybe sure, but that don't make it the strongest. aizen's is better. if it wasn't for aizen just standing there talking with his sword in yama's gut, what could yama do against it? juha didn't even attempt to use his bankai, he used his own ability. all yama did was sit there like a dunce and get one shotted. honestly, what's the use of using yama's bankai when he can give himself just about any power? i mean, he gave gremmy reality warping power, it stands to reason he can do the same for himself.
 

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the only times that we have seen that someone is unable to sense reiatsu is if there is a barrier up. as this is a fight, there is no reason to have a barrier blocking reiatsu as nobody is hiding. the other time we have sen this is when someone is way stronger than the other person ie, ichigo and aizen when they were at their strongest. could be that ichibei is that much stronger than him, we just don't know. yama's zanpakuto has the strongest attack power, maybe sure, but that don't make it the strongest. aizen's is better. if it wasn't for aizen just standing there talking with his sword in yama's gut, what could yama do against it? juha didn't even attempt to use his bankai, he used his own ability. all yama did was sit there like a dunce and get one shotted. honestly, what's the use of using yama's bankai when he can give himself just about any power? i mean, he gave gremmy reality warping power, it stands to reason he can do the same for himself.
Yea we don't know why his sword reiatsu can't be felt...Yama in bankai>>>>>aizen shikai cuz aizen won't be able to even get close.

Yea he knew his strongest ability had been stolen an he needs it to beat juha an he also only have one arm so he knew he was just dead...he can give himself any power? Where was that stated?
 

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Yea we don't know why his sword reiatsu can't be felt...Yama in bankai>>>>>aizen shikai cuz aizen won't be able to even get close.

Yea he knew his strongest ability had been stolen an he needs it to beat juha an he also only have one arm so he knew he was just dead...he can give himself any power? Where was that stated?
no excuse, ichibe just went into shikai and he is beating the $hit out of juha. sure yama lost his banka, but he could have tried other things instead of just standing there and getting one shotted. it was a pitiful effort on his part. as far as juha giving himself any power, no it was not stated. think about it this way, a few chapters ago he couldn't speak so he was all like, he gives "voice to himself. and also take into account that every star knight ability comes from him. so gremmy's power comes from him. just going off of those things, it's safe to assume that he can basically give himself almost any ability. within reason, anyways.
 

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no excuse, ichibe just went into shikai and he is beating the $hit out of juha. sure yama lost his banka, but he could have tried other things instead of just standing there and getting one shotted. it was a pitiful effort on his part. as far as juha giving himself any power, no it was not stated. think about it this way, a few chapters ago he couldn't speak so he was all like, he gives "voice to himself. and also take into account that every star knight ability comes from him. so gremmy's power comes from him. just going off of those things, it's safe to assume that he can basically give himself almost any ability. within reason, anyways.
Naw he's not really doing nothing to juha he has not really damaged him yet that I know of so.....Yama has one arm meaning he can not even use his kido tec he used on ww at its full power,heck he can even perform his 96 level kido cuz then he would be left with no arms sense he had only one an he knew using shikai was pointless now that back has his bankai so there is nothing for him to do...yes their abilities come from his but it don't mean he can use them it's kinda hard to explain,but I'm pretty sure Bach would have been used gremmy powers by now if he could.
 

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Naw he's not really doing nothing to juha he has not really damaged him yet that I know of so.....Yama has one arm meaning he can not even use his kido tec he used on ww at its full power,heck he can even perform his 96 level kido cuz then he would be left with no arms sense he had only one an he knew using shikai was pointless now that back has his bankai so there is nothing for him to do...yes their abilities come from his but it don't mean he can use them it's kinda hard to explain,but I'm pretty sure Bach would have been used gremmy powers by now if he could.
so what your saying is he was just like, eff it i'll die? that makes no sense what so ever. consider the fact that he could have lived and gotten his bankai back. the fact still remains, he had a pitiful showing. ichibei without even using shikai was backing back into a corner. when back has tried to do something to ichibe it has basically just been countered. juha has been taking damage the entire time. sure some of it he has healed from, but he has failed to steel ichibe's power and has had his own abilities smashed. yama was suppose to be the CC, he should know more level 90 kido that doesn't require the loss of an arm. kido doesn't even require 2 arms to perform.

as for the abilities of juha. the abilities he gives to quincy are literally part of hiis soul. when a star knight dies he takes back in that piece of his soul. if he can give abilities to other individuals, it stands to reason he can use them himself. as to why he hasn't used gremmy's power yet, who knows? maybe he needs to take that part back in to use that particular ability. remember, he absorbs the soul back in at night and gremmy was killed in this same day.
 

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so what your saying is he was just like, eff it i'll die? that makes no sense what so ever. consider the fact that he could have lived and gotten his bankai back. the fact still remains, he had a pitiful showing. ichibei without even using shikai was backing back into a corner. when back has tried to do something to ichibe it has basically just been countered. juha has been taking damage the entire time. sure some of it he has healed from, but he has failed to steel ichibe's power and has had his own abilities smashed. yama was suppose to be the CC, he should know more level 90 kido that doesn't require the loss of an arm. kido doesn't even require 2 arms to perform.

as for the abilities of juha. the abilities he gives to quincy are literally part of hiis soul. when a star knight dies he takes back in that piece of his soul. if he can give abilities to other individuals, it stands to reason he can use them himself. as to why he hasn't used gremmy's power yet, who knows? maybe he needs to take that part back in to use that particular ability. remember, he absorbs the soul back in at night and gremmy was killed in this same day.
Yea he had nothing he could do what don't you understand? If Bach steals ichibei bankai what can ichibei do to win? Exactly nothing...the monk guy really did no damage to Bach the only really wounds Bach suffered was tge wounds he gave him self by shooting his arrows into himself...kido is not going to get the job done anyway seeing as how all of the monks kido moves have failed aswell.

No he does not gain their abilities he gains their life force so he can continue living for a long time an I think he grows stronger.
 
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