[Spoilers] Finally Kishi has started giving us answers!!

[madara san]

OK, this last chapter was AWESOME!!! We got to see some real action from the kages, not just dodging Madara's attacks and him abusing them.
Tsunade has proven herself a worthy fighter
They worked as a team and showed they could break through Susanoo yet again

However, Madara has the smarts and the techniques that seem to be able to deal with anything they throw at him (let's hope the battle continues in the next chapter, cause it's by far the most entertaining one)

The best part about this chapter was that Kishi, after all the dragging out of story lines and messy narrative progression, has FINALLY given us some concrete answers.

1. We now can say, irrefutably, that Hashirama was the strongest Shinobi (won't include SO6P)
2. Tsunade IS better than most people have given her credit for.
3.[EDIT] It looks like the Tobi/Izuna theory is over! Izuna IS dead...according to Madara...
4. And edo tensei CANNOT be beaten by merely killing the caster (probably the strongest ninjutsu?)

Anyway, I just want to commend Kishimoto for giving us an excellent chapter after a long wait. It had action, emotion, suspense and actual plot development!! YAYYYY :izuna:

 

[Mr.Beastie]

Hashirama the strongest shinobi..yeah right.

 

[-The Agent-]

Edo tensei question has already been answered though..Kabuto states the only way to stop it when he explained it to Tobi.

 

[Young Thug]

I think Kabuto is lying to make sure he won't be raped by the Uchiwa Bros.

 

[Gatsuuga]

If anything I was more impressed with the size of Mei's suiton techniques. But than again Tsunade being stronger than the raikage (in lightning armor) is crazy

 

[shmanton]

Hashirama the strongest shinobi..yeah right.

tbh what have you got that says he isn't? 5 kage's against madara and he's still saying they don't match up to hashirama.

i think thats proof enough.

 

[JojocIaw]

Edo tensei question has already been answered though..Kabuto states the only way to stop it when he explained it to Tobi.

Dave beat me to it. We are all hoping Itachi can cast a genjutsu on him.

I wonder if Kabuto was able to regain control of Itachi or was that just me who thought about it. :<

If anything I was more impressed with the size of Mei's suiton techniques. But than again Tsunade being stronger than the raikage (in lightning armor) is crazy

Let me clear this up for you.

Tsunade is slower than Raikage. Whether that is with his armor is up to speculation.

Tsunade is stronger than Raikage. Whether that is with his armor is up to speculation.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

tbh what have you got that says he isn't? 5 kage's against madara and he's still saying they don't match up to hashirama.

i think thats proof enough.

madara would have been killed twicealready if he wasnt edo... Madara is using both his powers and hashirma's and the rinnengan powers. So why do you make the conclusion that just because this current madara who would have been dead already way before this point in the fight. Is anywhere near the lvl of hashirama. Obviously edo madara is more powerful in every way.

 

[natssuu]

It would be quite cool if Kabuto summons Madara to fight against Itachi and Sasuke.

 

[madara san]

Kabuto could have been lying/bluffing to keep Tobi in check. I think this chapter just cemented a lot of what people had believed previously

As for Hashirama, I personally believe Nagato at full health would beat him, BUT the mere fact that Kishi has repeatedly had characters glorifying him and now in this chapter it just seems that the final word has been said on the matter.
Kishi wants everyone to know who he believes is the strongest and his word is final

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

i bet sasuke will hinder itachi in the fight against kabuto

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Sasuke or Itachi could place a genjutsu on him to stop the technique. Also Madara could just be spamming his Rinnegan techniques but is not for plot sake i guess, but he could, is all I'm sayin.

PLOT HOLE - This is a ridiculous theory but I just wanted to point it out. With the new information released in the last chapter (assuming Kabuto isn't lying) couldn't the 2nd Hokage have revived his brother before dieing, then been killed and Hashirama would forever be an unkillable edo zombie. I know he probably doesn't want to do that but damn if he was so strong that'd be cool.

 

[natssuu]

Sasuke or Itachi could place a genjutsu on him to stop the technique. Also Madara could just be spamming his Rinnegan techniques but is not for plot sake i guess, but he could, is all I'm sayin.

PLOT HOLE - This is a ridiculous theory but I just wanted to point it out. With the new information released in the last chapter (assuming Kabuto isn't lying) couldn't the 2nd Hokage have revived his brother before dieing, then been killed and Hashirama would forever be an unkillable edo zombie. I know he probably doesn't want to do that but damn if he was so strong that'd be cool.

Tobirama couldn't master the technique.

 

[lilzay2kay]

we also know now that tobi isnt izuna....
cuz madara seems to know who tobi i s, and if he said his brother died, then we know its not him

 

[AbukariDogMan]

@ Rinoa

Tsunade is slower than Raikage. Whether that is with his armor is up to speculation.

Tsunade is stronger than Raikage. Whether that is with his armor is up to speculation.


At what point did the rikage fight madara without his amour ? of course he means with his amour. kishi is not going to explain everything in detail, we are not retards that he has to do that, he expects us to put one and two together.

 

[Riir]

its obvious that Madara is comparing Tsunade to Raikage with his Raiton Armour..
Finally,some conclusion from Kishi about Hashi being the strongest without SO6p..

 

[Gatsuuga]

Tobirama couldn't master the technique.

Minato couldn't master rasengan......case and point:scorps:

Dave beat me to it. We are all hoping Itachi can cast a genjutsu on him.

I wonder if Kabuto was able to regain control of Itachi or was that just me who thought about it. :<



Let me clear this up for you.

Tsunade is slower than Raikage. Whether that is with his armor is up to speculation.

Tsunade is stronger than Raikage. Whether that is with his armor is up to speculation.

correct me if i'm wrong but raikage has never punch madara without the armor on? Also he punched madara when he was made super heavy by oonoki.

 

[warlee]

Dan didn't know madara has rinnengan and wood release so his conclusion is incorrect and he didn't know about the current kages
and tsunade stronger than raikage is talking about strength alone not overall and nothing in this chapter says or shows hashirama is the strongest ninja you guys are just feeding on hype w/ little feats and tsunade is still a dissapointment.

 

[madara san]

Dan didn't know madara has rinnengan and wood release so his conclusion is incorrect and he didn't know about the current kages
and tsunade stronger than raikage is talking about strength alone not overall and nothing in this chapter says or shows hashirama is the strongest ninja you guys are just feeding on hype w/ little feats and tsunade is still a dissapointment.

OK, clearly you're just a Tsunade hater. She has proven herself worthy of her title and has demonstrated her immense strength

If Hashirama wasn't the strongest, then why in the hell is Kishi still hammering this point through. It's been nearly a month of various characters going on about how strong he was, obviously Kishi is making a point.

That said Naruto, will turn out to be totes the bestest ever obvs...:scorps:

 

[HamzaVeli]

madara confirmed that his brother izuna is dead !!!