[Discussion] Finally caught up!!
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Well Zoro is THE most underwhelming charachter since the timeskip. I hope he is saving it for some badass moment. But he probably is in another league together with Luffy and Sanji. Only those two were able to showcase some moves. The Hyozou fight was a bit of a let down, I can understand that we can't see Zoro struggle already but Hyouzo blocked a gear 2nd punch, poisoned Luffy and got a compliment from Luffy. He was just taken out like the rest of the fodder commanders.
Cause that is something of an eventual happening..... something that will happen near the climax...
I think more of a low gunners u knw of buggies level but good guys nevertheless....
Yes and i am sure we are yet to see even luffy in full force...
and then there is that closed eye of his maybe its something similar to what Mihawks eyes are like xd
Monkey d garp
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i think you got the part with zorro wrong perona was guiding him to sabaody he would have never found it without her and the fishing was a complete disaster the fisher offered him a little boat but zoro stupid like he is was going on a pirate ship so he still has no sense of direction oda would never change that because that´s what makes zoro really funny
First of all, that person doflamingo was taking orders from was the gorosei and they thought moria was too weak to be shichibukai so they sent doflamingo and kuma to kill him and cover it up saying he died in the war.U_USo yes i finally caught up with the entire one piece manga!!! Awesome!!!
And as such i have some questions floating in....and as such i would like to discuss them
First lets start with a little before the timeskip in the marineford war doflammingo was taking orders from some upper echelon member who was kept in the shadows. Now the only reason why the person is kept in the shadow is because we already know the identity of the said person as someone else because if it were to be an entirely new person it would not make sense not to reveal them as it would make little difference when they are revealed.
Moving on to the Post timeskip, i don`t know but zoro has been acting weird ...first he reached the sabaody archieoplage (i think i misspelled) before anyone, then he went for fishing and even reached there in time... then on the fishman island he reached the castle of neptune before anyone and in the castle when the fight began he made it there from the prison just in the nick of time..all of this without getting lost.
Next after timeskip Usopp sama, well he uses the plants from that special island of his to fight and has adopted his fighting style accordingly..But there would always be a limit on the number of stuff he brought from that island naturally he will run out of it someday wont he? and what then?
Also after timeskip Franky, why is he bald? his earlier hair style was *Super* awesome.
Next is Blackbeard, he seems to be gathering all the powerful devils fruits/ people with powerful devils fruit..... Is that only for his benefit? or is the crew getting the various devils fruit powers as well?? or is it just the power of his darkness fruit to absorb other devils fruit powers??
If so why do they have to cover him while he gets the powers?? (I sense a possible weakness to that strategy here!!!)
And lastly Aokiji could he be the next straw hat recruit?
I mean he was always soft towards the straw hat crew....even in there first meeting he could have killed them had he wanted to... at enies lobby he accepted marine defeat...at water 7 he had a small chat with robin and left...
I think he was more humane of a person in the world government.
I know most of you would say he would never be or support any pirate...
But the straw hats are not really any pirates you know xd
what i think would go against aokiji would perhaps be the power balance on the thousand sunny..no matter how i look at it zoro is like the vice captain here and aokiji may just be a shade stronger than him...
Also I think oda has made up his mind to make the marines an exclusive evil force considering now that sengoku, garp, and aokiji have all left or retired and i think those were the only people who did not blindly follow government orders....Now the only people left to look forward to among the marines are smoker, coby and helmeppo.
Finally since Luffy has now started calling out his 'turfs' i think it is about time he gets allied with some other pirate crews who would serve under the straw hat crew banner that would also help in keeping the original straw hat crew small and very well developed.
I think that's itxd
Even if there was just one person in the shadows, the fact that we don´t know who it is makes it better and i don´t think it´s someone we met because his position is higher then Sengoku.
I think it would be equally exciting for us to see that one person whether or not we´ve already been introduced to him/her but it´s not someone we know because as i said, it was the gorosei who sent him, one of them.
As for zoro, he had that vivre card of rayleigh and he probably got escorted by Perona which makes the most sense cuz he still have his bad sense of direction and he didn´t get to the castle by himself.
He was captured and sent there, how did he make it to Nami,Usopp and Brook?
Well, simply because oda doesn´t need to show his bad sense of direction 24/7, especially in situations such as fighting, it´s a running gag but you gotta preserve it otherwise it gets boring.
I think usopp invented those plant techniques himself so i don´t think he will just lose it and he still have his other attacks, don´t worry about usopp, he has his load.
I also thought Franky looked better in his former hair-style at first but it´s all a matter of what you´re used to, i think his bald hair suits him now and the more i see it, the more i start to like it more then the old one which i´m not really a fan of when he has his old one in fights but as the fight progresses, i get used to it and i shift to liking it more then the new one, then i suddently don´t like the bald look as much, it´s all perspective and what you´re used to.:|
Blackbeards fruit absorb your devil fruit ability when he makes contact with you and of course his crew had to cover him while he gets the power because someone could just attack him from out of nowhere, mind you he was in a war, of course he had to get covered while being inside a black curtain getting whitebeards powers and i also think he somehow gets the power then transfer them to his crewmates.
Lastly about Aokiji, he´s a marine, he´s been a marine for most of his life, he killed a friend because he betrayed the marines, he only spared robin because it was his friends wish and he watched over her untill she found friends.
He does his duty well, just because he doesn´t like working under Akainu doesn´t mean he will give up his pride as a marine and become a pirate.
He quit the marines, it was an early retirement, he hasn´t done any crimes and he´s much stronger then the entire strawhat crew, what do you talking about saying he may be a shade stronger?!
You´re underestimating him too much which is another reason he won´t join, cuz he´s too strong for them!
As a retired marine, he probably won´t care about pirates running around anymore but he sure won´t let them mess around anywhere near him.
As for the rest, i agree with you and it´s a good prediction.
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Even if usopp invented them and used them in a way that would help him in battle still he could not conjure it out of nowhere u know...he would need the ingredients from that particular island which i think was a giant floating starfishI think usopp invented those plant techniques himself so i don´t think he will just lose it and he still have his other attacks, don´t worry about usopp, he has his load.
Blackbeards fruit absorb your devil fruit ability when he makes contact with you and of course his crew had to cover him while he gets the power because someone could just attack him from out of nowhere, mind you he was in a war, of course he had to get covered while being inside a black curtain getting whitebeards powers and i also think he somehow gets the power then transfer them to his crewmates.
Lastly about Aokiji, he´s a marine, he´s been a marine for most of his life, he killed a friend because he betrayed the marines, he only spared robin because it was his friends wish and he watched over her untill she found friends.
He does his duty well, just because he doesn´t like working under Akainu doesn´t mean he will give up his pride as a marine and become a pirate.
He quit the marines, it was an early retirement, he hasn´t done any crimes and he´s much stronger then the entire strawhat crew, what do you talking about saying he may be a shade stronger?!
You´re underestimating him too much which is another reason he won´t join, cuz he´s too strong for them!
As a retired marine, he probably won´t care about pirates running around anymore but he sure won´t let them mess around anywhere near him.
As for the rest, i agree with you and it´s a good prediction.
Blackbeard being covered by a cloth was not going to protect him from an attack was it??
whatever it was that he does to absorb the power exposes some major weakness that he wanted to hide from everyones eyes...
As for aokiji if what u put there is true then i think this will be the end of aokiji.
Since without his authority as a marine if he moves against pirates it will be idiotic, since he has no personal vendetta against the pirates....
The shadow was either Gorosei or Kong as when Moriah asks who has ordered Doflamingo that either Sengoku was responsible behind all this at that time Doflamingo pointed his fingers upwards implying that either Gorosei or Kong is behind it.So yes i finally caught up with the entire one piece manga!!! Awesome!!!
And as such i have some questions floating in....and as such i would like to discuss them
First lets start with a little before the timeskip in the marineford war doflammingo was taking orders from some upper echelon member who was kept in the shadows. Now the only reason why the person is kept in the shadow is because we already know the identity of the said person as someone else because if it were to be an entirely new person it would not make sense not to reveal them as it would make little difference when they are revealed.
Moving on to the Post timeskip, i don`t know but zoro has been acting weird ...first he reached the sabaody archieoplage (i think i misspelled) before anyone, then he went for fishing and even reached there in time... then on the fishman island he reached the castle of neptune before anyone and in the castle when the fight began he made it there from the prison just in the nick of time..all of this without getting lost.
Next after timeskip Usopp sama, well he uses the plants from that special island of his to fight and has adopted his fighting style accordingly..But there would always be a limit on the number of stuff he brought from that island naturally he will run out of it someday wont he? and what then?
Also after timeskip Franky, why is he bald? his earlier hair style was *Super* awesome.
Next is Blackbeard, he seems to be gathering all the powerful devils fruits/ people with powerful devils fruit..... Is that only for his benefit? or is the crew getting the various devils fruit powers as well?? or is it just the power of his darkness fruit to absorb other devils fruit powers??
If so why do they have to cover him while he gets the powers?? (I sense a possible weakness to that strategy here!!!)
And lastly Aokiji could he be the next straw hat recruit?
I mean he was always soft towards the straw hat crew....even in there first meeting he could have killed them had he wanted to... at enies lobby he accepted marine defeat...at water 7 he had a small chat with robin and left...
I think he was more humane of a person in the world government.
I know most of you would say he would never be or support any pirate...
But the straw hats are not really any pirates you know xd
what i think would go against aokiji would perhaps be the power balance on the thousand sunny..no matter how i look at it zoro is like the vice captain here and aokiji may just be a shade stronger than him...
Also I think oda has made up his mind to make the marines an exclusive evil force considering now that sengoku, garp, and aokiji have all left or retired and i think those were the only people who did not blindly follow government orders....Now the only people left to look forward to among the marines are smoker, coby and helmeppo.
Finally since Luffy has now started calling out his 'turfs' i think it is about time he gets allied with some other pirate crews who would serve under the straw hat crew banner that would also help in keeping the original straw hat crew small and very well developed.
I think that's it
Nope, he reached Sabaody before everyone because that Perona led him to Sabaody so early so no he hasn't changed so don't suspect him.
He would have gotten a way to counter that. Maybe Hercules taught him to cultivate Pop Greens and he is doing that on Sunny, you never know. Pop Greens still are only ammunition and sooner or later we would change this ammunation.
Yeah his hair were great that time, anyways, i still love him.
Blackbeard right now has the most Powerful Devil Fruits so he is hunting the DF for his crew to make them powerful.
Blackbeard is showy kind of guy maybe he just was giving everyone a surprise to everyone by making his getting of devil fruit inside curtain.
Aokiji a pirate? Nope.
Aokiji a Revolutionary? Maybe.
Boa Hancock
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It's been theorized that it's the Gorousei. If it's some Tenryuubito that we didn't know about yet then it's fine. It would make sense if it's a new character, and it would still make sense if it's an existing one. Doesn't mean Kishi screwed up Tobi's identity Oda shouldn't improve on his mistakes.
Perona guided him to Sabaody, and he usually arrives in places he doesn't wish to arrive in. Case in point, Alabasta and Grove 1. He reached an oasis near Alabasta during the civil war, when the people there were saying the water was scarce. He reached Grove 1 when he was intending to get back to the Sunny which was in Grove 41.
Plants can be planted on the Sunny.
Why not? It shows off his age and his "Yakuza" background.
We don't know if it's for the crew or only for his sole benefit. The Yami Yami no Mi might have a lot to do with it, or some other sole instrument. Or maybe it's Uranus. The possibilities are endless. They had to cover BB in the war since they couldn't just reveal trade secrets no?
That would mess up the Monster Trio. Aokiji is NOT going to be joining since that would go against his justice. He has Lazy Justice, and however you see it it's still justice which goes against the pirates' freedom. He may be shacking in some hermit island, we don't know.
No he didn't. Oda just made an antagonist organization even more of a challenge to the protagonists. If you say "exclusive evil force" that would mean evil against the civilians too, and that's not what the Marines stand for.
He has lots of allies. Try and look back on who they are.
SUuuuuuuuuuper replies!!!It's been theorized that it's the Gorousei. If it's some Tenryuubito that we didn't know about yet then it's fine. It would make sense if it's a new character, and it would still make sense if it's an existing one. Doesn't mean Kishi screwed up Tobi's identity Oda shouldn't improve on his mistakes.
Perona guided him to Sabaody, and he usually arrives in places he doesn't wish to arrive in. Case in point, Alabasta and Grove 1. He reached an oasis near Alabasta during the civil war, when the people there were saying the water was scarce. He reached Grove 1 when he was intending to get back to the Sunny which was in Grove 41.
Plants can be planted on the Sunny.
Why not? It shows off his age and his "Yakuza" background.
We don't know if it's for the crew or only for his sole benefit. The Yami Yami no Mi might have a lot to do with it, or some other sole instrument. Or maybe it's Uranus. The possibilities are endless. They had to cover BB in the war since they couldn't just reveal trade secrets no?
That would mess up the Monster Trio. Aokiji is NOT going to be joining since that would go against his justice. He has Lazy Justice, and however you see it it's still justice which goes against the pirates' freedom. He may be shacking in some hermit island, we don't know.
No he didn't. Oda just made an antagonist organization even more of a challenge to the protagonists. If you say "exclusive evil force" that would mean evil against the civilians too, and that's not what the Marines stand for.
He has lots of allies. Try and look back on who they are.
You have my thanks :izuna:
So yes i finally caught up with the entire one piece manga!!! Awesome!!!
And as such i have some questions floating in....and as such i would like to discuss them
First lets start with a little before the timeskip in the marineford war doflammingo was taking orders from some upper echelon member who was kept in the shadows. Now the only reason why the person is kept in the shadow is because we already know the identity of the said person as someone else because if it were to be an entirely new person it would not make sense not to reveal them as it would make little difference when they are revealed.
Possible. But who other than the World Government are Upper Echelon?
Sabaody(Easier)
There has been a debate between us here in the OP Section(The Smart Vets, who don't spam here) that Zoro has developed Observation Haki.
Still yet to be determined/confirmed, but its probable now.
Well I disagree.
SH Powers haven't been explained as of yet, and you could be right.
However Ussop, using his knowledge its safe to say he can recycle natural ingredients in the New World to make for stronger ammunition.
That's just what I think though.
Again, its still too early to know why such things happened.
Remember that the timeskip is still new.
Lili said something about Blackbeard here:
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Aokiji become a Mugiwara? NO.
You need to understand that Sakazuki & Garp are the only Marines who have the correct sense of Justice, well in my eyes.
However a Pirate is a Pirate, and Kuzan wouldn't drop to that level. He left the Marines, doesn't mean he abandoned his sense of Justice. He just doesn't agree with Sakazuki.
There is no way Kuzan would join a Pirate Crew. Revolutionary's? More likely than him becoming a Pirate.
Understand that Kuzan's reason to leave was because he does want to serve under Sakazuki. Simple, so no SH for Kuzan.
Why not Sakazuki?
I want to see how Borsalino is these days since no one wanted him to be the Fleet Admiral.
Oda has had his story set since the beginning and your point about the Marines has been obvious since Captain Morgan.
More than likely the allies he created in the War will serve this purpose.
I also think the Supernova's, through some imaginary magical sensation would fall under this category as well.
So what is better Naruto or One Piece?xdI think that's it
K stunna man
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WHOA THERE WITH AOKIJI!!!, that was out of line lol. If Jinbe is hesitant to join why the F*$k would Aokiji, the only way i see that happening is if........1. Akainu really messed him up
2. Luffy had a bigger bounty (preferably 600 million+)
3. Luffy was a Yonkou
4. Was able to beat Aokiji without a doubt
5. Luffy was older
maybe than Aokiji would join but even with that i doubt that cause Aokiji is on par with Akainu(He didnt even want to be his underling) and Akainu could take on Whitebeard which was a yonkou.....i would never see him trying to join a rookie like Luffy which is on like Vice-Admiral level as of now
anyways the only person i see him following ever is Garp and thats it, Next you guys will say Garp and Sengoku will join the strawhats. ITS AN EARLY RETIREMENT, NOT A "COUP D'ETAT" !!!(French for sudden betrayal or overthrow of a government by its on subordinates).......guys be real :|
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I don´t know about Usopp but i don´t think he will run out of his plants.Even if usopp invented them and used them in a way that would help him in battle still he could not conjure it out of nowhere u know...he would need the ingredients from that particular island which i think was a giant floating starfish
Blackbeard being covered by a cloth was not going to protect him from an attack was it??
whatever it was that he does to absorb the power exposes some major weakness that he wanted to hide from everyones eyes...
As for aokiji if what u put there is true then i think this will be the end of aokiji.
Since without his authority as a marine if he moves against pirates it will be idiotic, since he has no personal vendetta against the pirates....
Blackbeard said how he wanted to give them a show, i don´t know whether the cloth was necessary or not but it could be as you said, something he didn´t want anyone to see.
Just because Aokiji won´t join up with pirates doesn´t mean it´s over for him, we´ll see him again and i´m sure he´ll play a big role in the series somehow but he´s no longer a marine and he definitely won´t become a pirate, oda knows better then to ruin his character like that.
And no, he has no personal vendetta against pirates, he´s the last marine you should assume that about since he´s the most laid-back when it comes to justice and stuff.
Maybe Akainu is the one having a personal vendetta against pirates since he has that ideal about absolute justice, maybe he got screwed up by pirates in the past.:shrug:
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