Finally Admitted That Itachi Can Beat Nagato....

[Oblivionx]

As the Title says.. i never believed that itachi can beat nagato simply because i believed nagato can absorb everything itachi has even though i'm an itachi fan.... but recently i realized something.. not that anybody convinced me and that was about susano...
We have seen hashirama's wood style absorbing chakra.. we have seen it rendering preta path useless..

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also we have this... here itachi used a hand not totsuka i.e spiritual weapon and preta failed to absorb it...

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another thing is that we know susano is physical manifestation of chakra... now the question arises since hashirama has wood style that can negate preta meaning can absorb chakra on equal terms with preta still was never used against madara's susano.. it never absorbed susano although it touched susano countless times...

so i came to conclusion that preta can't absorb susano... and the only reason i came up with was the physical manifestation thing... any other guesses??

now i'll begin with other abilities... amaterasu and genjutsu are useless here simply because amaterasu is absorbed or repelled and genjutsu can't work on upgraded eyes... now the issue with nagato is that he has extremely low mobility... which means itachi has clear edge in speed...

nagato can fly but itachi has long range attack to hunt him down... although i'm not denying that ST can deal with it.. so itachi will have to imply strategy... itachi has clear edge in battle tactics and intelligence as well...

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next up are nagato's abilities...!

ST is dangerous but susano can be used as defense.... BT will kill nagato as itachi can simply activate susano while being pulled and demolish nagato...

preta as i said deals with amaterasu but susano still prevails as well as physical attacks in which itachi is easily superior as nagato can't even move properly...

summons get one shotted with amaterasu...

Soul sucking path (whatever it's name is again gets dealt with susano... naruto used rasengan so ninjutsu can be used while soul is being sucked but again susano can't be absorbed..

Finally CT.. Itachi destroyed it with naruto's and bee's help but we can't prove whether itachi could have done that by himself or not... nevertheless 2 or 3 consecutive yasaka magatama's should deal with it... also with knowledge itachi will try to destroy it as soon as possible... but i'm not saying that he can certainly destroy it... anothr thing is that CT doesn't pull the person up but the ground hence if itachi keeps jumping off the rocks downward... CT will fail and if he closes his distance with nagato then he can even stop it...!

here gaara wasn't being pulled..neither were kakashi, sukara or naruto...

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also itachi's crow clones can be very useful in tight corners... they can be used as distractions...

Finally the conclusion is that itachi has his chances against nagato... nagato's attacks difficult to counter are CT and ST while itachi has susano including totsuka and yata which are difficult to counter for nagato.. hence the deciding factor is who can hit other faster and we do know that itachi has clear advantage in speed & tactics and both are deciding factors in this match up... ... hence itachi wins 60/100 and edo itachi probably wins 80% of the times...

also this applies to all who have susano including EMS sasuke, madara etc...

Thanks for reading... tell me what you guys think...

 

[Antichrist]

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[Oblivionx]

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if you have had read the OP, you wouldn't have given yourself such a title...

 

[Antichrist]

if you have had read the OP, you wouldn't have given yourself such a title...

you say ( itachi win 60/100 and edo itachi probably wins 80% of the times ) . this is the reason of that image .

 

[Oblivionx]

you say ( itachi win 60/100 and edo itachi probably wins 80% of the times ) . this is the reason of that image .

i gave reasons for believing that....! alive itachi can't use much of susano that's why it's more like 50/50 but edo has no problem using it...

 

[Daakioso]

Who even cares if Itachi can beat Nagato or the other way around? They're both dead and both had enough time on screen to please fans. On to the next topic? If the writer decides to make a chapter where Itachi kills Nagato or the other way around then u can discuss shit like this. Otherwise it's just plain useless.

 

[Conspirator.]

I was confused when I read the madara/hashirama fight: Why was susnaoo able to protect the kyuubi from hasirama's wood dragon? Because susanoo is just a chakra warrior, so in theory the wood dragon should be able to absorb the susanoo's power as well. Maybe the susanoo is immune to chakra absorption. Interesting thread

 

[solo king]

ST one shots mangafact

 

[RikudouMadara]

Genjutsu is said not to work on upgraded eyes where? Just curious..... Tsukuyomi works on anyone and everyone..... In the seconds or few seconds that it lasts Itachi can kill an opposition with it.

 

[Oblivionx]

Who even cares if Itachi can beat Nagato or the other way around? They're both dead and both had enough time on screen to please fans. On to the next topic? If the writer decides to make a chapter where Itachi kills Nagato or the other way around then u can discuss shit like this. Otherwise it's just plain useless.

by that logic naruto manga is useless... if you don't care then don't comment lel...

 

[cajin]

Itachi > Pain
Nagato > Itachi

 

[Oblivionx]

I was confused when I read the madara/hashirama fight: Why was susnaoo able to protect the kyuubi from hasirama's wood dragon? Because susanoo is just a chakra warrior, so in theory the wood dragon should be able to absorb the susanoo's power as well. Maybe the susanoo is immune to chakra absorption. Interesting thread

yes.. and thanks... at least you read it...

ST one shots mangafact

so does susano... or may i say cannon totsuka...

Genjutsu is said not to work on upgraded eyes where? Just curious..... Tsukuyomi works on anyone and everyone..... In the seconds or few seconds that it lasts Itachi can kill an opposition with it.

well prerequisite to break Tsukyomi was to have MS...! Rinnegan is far above... but even it works it is in itachi's favor i.e my favor.. but i just excluded it to avoid conflict...

Get out please, hang yourself.

Nagato > Itachi, and it will always be this way .

show me proof... lel

make an effort to read first before spouting bullshit....

 

[Oblivionx]

Itachi > Pain
Nagato > Itachi

actually i think pain has better chances.... pain had good mobility and more bodies also greater field of vision... which are more important than raw power....

 

[Antichrist]

Itachi > Pain
Nagato > Itachi

and do you think he will understand you words .

 

[parathunder2]

oh oh... Weve seen yasaka magatma on roll once! Ohh yeah maddy used it on tsunade and she was pushed back! Yeah... That was over powered! So much to destroy CT ... Run nagato and dont use gedo masu, u coudnt even capture hanzo with that!

 

[Meee]

I agree, Well I think its 50/50 but whatevs, Could go either way.

Itachi > Pain
Nagato > Itachi

I think Pain has better chances, I know Nagato is stronger but Pain having 6 bodies makes Genjutsu useless, He has better mobility and can revive the dead bodies too.

 

[Oblivionx]

and do you think he will understand you words .

i'm happy that you do... now gtfo of here...

 

[Oblivionx]

oh oh... Weve seen yasaka magatma on roll once! Ohh yeah maddy used it on tsunade and she was pushed back! Yeah... That was over powered! So much to destroy CT ... Run nagato and dont use gedo masu, u coudnt even capture hanzo with that!

lel i gave more than 1 counters for CT but i guess are too dumb to read...

and gedo mazu is excluded from this fight...! it's the jubi's shell... with it nagato wins...

edit: here 2 layered defense was used against it... even though gaara's sand is considered hell of a defense itself and was actually suitable to block the attack... even then rock statue was broken lel... it's quite powerful...

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I agree, Well I think its 50/50 but whatevs, Could go either way.



I think Pain has better chances, I know Nagato is stronger but Pain having 6 bodies makes Genjutsu useless, He has better mobility and can revive the dead bodies too.

thanks and that pain part..... you are the 1st one who agrees with me on that...

 

[ugh]

Nagato > Pain > Itachi
Nagato > Itachi

Kabuto Stated, = MangaPhuxxx #DealWithIt

ShinraTensei , ChibakuTensei BanshooTennin , Haxx summons, Purple soul eater dragon (quite similar to Totsuka blade IMO) Large Chakra reserves, Absorbs all normal Ninjustu, can deflect Amatarasu,

I'm sure he can also push away a susano'o with his ST, keep in mind, Nagatos ST > Pains ST (when Pain did his Giant ST he had to drop the other pains, and focus all his Chakra into one, and being Nagato he doesn't have to worry about the other Pains so Nagato's power > Pain's)

I really don't see any counters to CT.. :/ ?
Nagato also has all 5 elements U_U
Izanami won't work on Nagato, because he's not living a false life or anything like that.

If you really say Susano'o is a Game changer as such, well, Nagato can summon the Gedo Mazou to fight against that?
well, personal opinions also come to play, and i think Nagato > Itachi

 

[Sominus]

For starters: Non of your pictures worked for me.

As the Title says.. i never believed that itachi can beat nagato simply because i believed nagato can absorb everything itachi has even though i'm an itachi fan.... but recently i realized something.. not that anybody convinced me and that was about susano...
We have seen hashirama's wood style absorbing chakra.. we have seen it rendering preta path useless..

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also we have this... here itachi used a hand not totsuka i.e spiritual weapon and preta failed to absorb it...

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another thing is that we know susano is physical manifestation of chakra... now the question arises since hashirama has wood style that can negate preta meaning can absorb chakra on equal terms with preta still was never used against madara's susano.. it never absorbed susano although it touched susano countless times...

so i came to conclusion that preta can't absorb susano... and the only reason i came up with was the physical manifestation thing... any other guesses??

Unsure about this, in fact there is nothing that guarantees this theory, but of course you got a point, if this is the case Nagato would need to destroy Susanoo (which he easily could with his arsenal if he manages to land a blow).

now i'll begin with other abilities... amaterasu and genjutsu are useless here simply because amaterasu is absorbed or repelled and genjutsu can't work on upgraded eyes... now the issue with nagato is that he has extremely low mobility... which means itachi has clear edge in speed...

Agreed. I wouldn't say, that Nagato is immune to any Genjutsu but he could surely deal with it.

nagato can fly but itachi has long range attack to hunt him down... although i'm not denying that ST can deal with it.. so itachi will have to imply strategy... itachi has clear edge in battle tactics and intelligence as well...

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I don't understand why all people think Itachi would be a better strategian than Nagato ._. There is NO LITTLE PICE of evidence for this. Itachi is brilliant sure, but Nagato isn't an idiot... we simply don't have a convincing comparison.

summons get one shotted with amaterasu...

That is wrong in my opinion. If they face each other knowing that they fight each other Nagato can protect his summonings from Amaterasu with his Preta Path. He simply didn't have time to react in the Edo fight because noone expected Edo-Itachi to turn sides.

Finally CT.. Itachi destroyed it with naruto's and bee's help but we can't prove whether itachi could have done that by himself or not... nevertheless 2 or 3 consecutive yasaka magatama's should deal with it... also with knowledge itachi will try to destroy it as soon as possible... but i'm not saying that he can certainly destroy it... anothr thing is that CT doesn't pull the person up but the ground hence if itachi keeps jumping off the rocks downward... CT will fail and if he closes his distance with nagato then he can even stop it...!

here gaara wasn't being pulled..neither were kakashi, sukara or naruto...

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Now this is all my personal opinion again but I highly doubt Itachi could do anything against CT solo. Sure he could destroy it but that beeing said Nagato won't just watch and let Itachi have it his way. If he needs like 2-3 attacks on that thing Nagato got plenty of time to harass him. Also CT - the way Nagato used it - pulls EVERYTHING because it creates it's own gravity, people were just able to withstand that impulse for a certain amount of time.

Finally the conclusion is that itachi has his chances against nagato... nagato's attacks difficult to counter are CT and ST while itachi has susano including totsuka and yata which are difficult to counter for nagato.. hence the deciding factor is who can hit other faster and we do know that itachi has clear advantage in speed & tactics and both are deciding factors in this match up... ... hence itachi wins 60/100 and edo itachi probably wins 80% of the times...
also this applies to all who have susano including EMS sasuke, madara etc...

Thanks for reading... tell me what you guys think...

It would be a great fight imho but non Edo Itachi couldn't handle Nagato in my opinion considering the high Chakra reserves Nagato has. Especially when Itachi doesn't have full knowledge about Nagato's abilities (for example Naruto described how CT works - sure Itachi would have figured that out in a matter of seconds but he doesn't face him with previous knowledge of this Jutsu - means it could even catch him offguard).