Final (We hope) Countdown. Tobi ID theories and discsussions

[endo]

Re: Obito and Tobi

What`s the point of saying anything about tobi`s identity? Kishi said that his identity would be revealed in a couple of weeks

 

[I Am Pein]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

He is using his right eye in that picture.

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hes using his right for ametuerasu now can u please admit ur wrong

 

[leeko]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

no its not, when he fuaght gaara he said one was in he left and one was in the other

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no disrespect but that picture proves nothing

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this does ... this is what his other eye does compare the two pictures

 

[I Am Pein]

Re: so tell me its not obito

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this ends it. Madara has them, which shows that different eyes can have the same techs, which shows Tobi is not necessarily Obito

i didnt see anyhthing that ended anything

 

[I Am Pein]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

ITACHI USED IZANAGI ?? WHEN WAS THAT:shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug:

he said that uchihas with out senju DNA used it, which means he in term could use it

 

[XXDeadpoolXX]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

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O.M.G. why Tobi Threads?!!

^this

 

[Resurrected Orochimaru]

Re: so tell me its not obito

His hair was much longer during those times and his blood was red when he was attacked by mainato...plus his eye techs was very more powerfully he controlled the mizukage which she a tailed beast inside her..but now meaning the war Tobi couldnt even controll any of the beast..madara could've easily controlled naruto and be done with the moon eye plan...the manga that was released today only obito knew that kumi that kakashi used was one justu...and its not madara bother..as it states in the manga THEY WERE EQUAL IN POWER now if madara brother was behind the mask this war would be over...

Sure Tobi's hair was long when he controlled Yagura, but it was short like it is now when he fought Minato. Then it was grown out a bit when he approached Itachi, so you can't use hair as an example. And even back then the White Zetsu like material came out of him when Minato struck him, what red blood are you talking about? And notice how Kisame recognized Tobi as the "Mizukage" who had been controlling Yagura? The man in the mask is the same man who claimed to be Madara then, Kisame wasn't stupid. As for the war, Tobi had a hard time controlling the Beasts because he had to control 6 of them instead of just 1. And regardless he still was able to control them.

 

[I Am Pein]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

no disrespect but that picture proves nothing

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this does ... this is what his other eye does compare the two pictures

his eyes aret bleeding its just a really strong genjutsu, or he has 3 MS tech.....which one is more likely

 

[JaccuziSplot777]

Re: so tell me its not obito

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this ends it. Madara has them, which shows that different eyes can have the same techs, which shows Tobi is not necessarily Obito

So y can't Tobi properly controll any of the beast or even controll the nine tails..madara controlled the mizukage and the nine tails....the sharigan is a evolving eye tech everybody sharigan is different not the same..now if u took that person eye then yea you and that person u took ur sharigan from the techs would be the same...everybody with the evolved form of the sharigan can summon there own form of sasonno...so no fail...

 

[Netsui]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

They could have the same technique in both eyes. Shisui is a very good example that you could have the same technique in both of your MS eyes. So that reason can't be used to say Tobi isn't Obito.

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^ This image, to us it looks like the right side, but from Sasuke's POV is it his left?

 

[phantom1]

Re: so tell me its not obito

different eyes can house the same techniques. look at Sasuke and Itachi.

Yeah maybe because Sasuke took Itachi's eyes smart guy

 

[I Am Pein]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

They could have the same technique in both eyes. Shisui is a very good example that you could have the same technique in both of your MS eyes. So that reason can't be used to say Tobi isn't Obito.

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^ This image, to us it looks like the right side, but from Sasuke's POV is it his left?

exacly my point right eye is ameterasu and left eye is enton, and he hasnt shown to be able to use either in the opposite eye, also itachi couldnt use ametarusu after he lost his eye to izanami

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: so tell me its not obito

Yeah maybe because Sasuke took Itachi's eyes smart guy

even before that, he did the same techs

i didnt see anyhthing that ended anything

read the second paragraph

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Re: so tell me its not obito

So y can't Tobi properly controll any of the beast or even controll the nine tails..madara controlled the mizukage and the nine tails....the sharigan is a evolving eye tech everybody sharigan is different not the same..now if u took that person eye then yea you and that person u took ur sharigan from the techs would be the same...everybody with the evolved form of the sharigan can summon there own form of sasonno...so no fail...

What you just said....was hard to understand because it was like one big sentence.

Wasn't it TOBI who was controlling the Mizukage? Tobi also controlled the 9 tails 16 years ago.

That last thing you said, about taking a person with a sharingans eye and gaining their abilities, we really don't know whether or not that is true. How do you know its the eye itself and not the person controlling it that decides what techs they are able to use? If you can prove otherwise, go ahead.

You don't win a debate by just saying "so no fail" at the end. I edited my post earlier to reply to your inquiry. It was quite a stupid one because i had answered your question in my previous post.

 

[Beetle]

Re: so tell me its not obito

So y can't Tobi properly controll any of the beast or even controll the nine tails..madara controlled the mizukage and the nine tails....the sharigan is a evolving eye tech everybody sharigan is different not the same..now if u took that person eye then yea you and that person u took ur sharigan from the techs would be the same...everybody with the evolved form of the sharigan can summon there own form of sasonno...so no fail...

Your argument is just awful.

Tobi was the one controlling the 4th mizukage. Kisame saw him when he was controlling him, and saw under Tobi's mask later. He grew to trust him running Akatsuki because of this. Also, Tobi controlled the ninetails properly when he attacked Konoha. We know it was Tobi and not Madara because he used the same S/T technique Tobi uses. So yes Tobi can control the tailed beasts just fine even without Rinnegan chains.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Obito and Tobi

That's it tobi = obito believers our time is near, we tried to tell these dumb asses ages ago

 

[JaccuziSplot777]

Re: so tell me its not obito

Sure Tobi's hair was long when he controlled Yagura, but it was short like it is now when he fought Minato. Then it was grown out a bit when he approached Itachi, so you can't use hair as an example. And even back then the White Zetsu like material came out of him when Minato struck him, what red blood are you talking about? And notice how Kisame recognized Tobi as the "Mizukage" who had been controlling Yagura? The man in the mask is the same man who claimed to be Madara then, Kisame wasn't stupid. As for the war, Tobi had a hard time controlling the Beasts because he had to control 6 of them instead of just 1. And regardless he still was able to control them.

Madara was very old when fighting minato..his age had the best of him just like 4th fighting the 1st and 2nd hokage but was granted the god of shinobi..but saying that he couldn't controll any of the beast becuz it was too many is foolish I wouldn't bring out 7tail beast to fight with knowing that I can't controll all of the beast is a big fail...madara controlled the nine tails which is the most powerfull of all the beast...now u know kisame was the 1st recruit of the akatski which was when madara recruited him while controlling the mizukage orochimaru was later recruited,,oro did experiments he had the 1st DNA so did madara which he created Yamato..my theory is oro created zetsu with the 1st dna and madara dna and rebuild obito while with akatski and keep in mind kisame was still with akatski..kisame was surprised too see obito not madara obito is madara pawn to be revived to become Immortal that was madra plan obito plan is the moon eye plan to create peace..I would use madra name the most powerful man in the shinboi world 2nd to the 1st hokage..like tobi said he is nothing he's nobody,that sounds like a pawn to somebodys plan...

 

[Shame]

Re: Tobi isn't Obito.

Go back to the danzo and sasuke fight tobi says kakashi's kamui will not work on him because tobi can use the same dimension. Kakashi just has not used it to it's full effects.

 

[Beetle]

Re: so tell me its not obito

^If it was Madara who fought Minato, the whole Obito=Tobi argument collapses on itself.

 

[JaccuziSplot777]

Re: so tell me its not obito

Your argument is just awful.

Tobi was the one controlling the 4th mizukage. Kisame saw him when he was controlling him, and saw under Tobi's mask later. He grew to trust him running Akatsuki because of this. Also, Tobi controlled the ninetails properly when he attacked Konoha. We know it was Tobi and not Madara because he used the same S/T technique Tobi uses. So yes Tobi can control the tailed beasts just fine even without Rinnegan chains.

If Tobi can CONTROLL the mizkage and the nine tails BACK THEN y can't Tobi controll the 7bujji he had and if TOBI CONTROLLED the 9tails back then y da **** TOBI can't CONTROLL the 9tails now with a host which is naruto...he controlled the mizukage which she had a beast in her just fine he actually ruled the hidden mist after all those years and nobody knew it was MADARA not Tobi that was controlling the mizukage..if ur saying Tobi controlled the 9tails y can't he controll the 9tails now or back then to finish this war y waste time and fight when ur the most powerfull shinobi in the world which Tobi aka obito isn't so no ur argument is flawed...