Final fight, ending, War done, Rikudou, Kages, 690(All things important discussion)

[KingHashirama]

Since we have the closing of the war arc. I wanted to make a thread for myself to discuss with other members regarding some stuff (no arguing, just simply talking). The thread is going to be divided into sections. Feel free to give opinions on any of those sections, or all of them. =]


690 : awesome chapter:

Man this was chapter was nice, from Naruto and Sasuke beating Kaguya, to all Kages being there to Team 7 being declared as saviors. Just freaking awesome man. Just loved the chapter itself. Don't really care about the "kaguya troll". Simply glad the war is over, so we can move on.

However the last panel simply made me want to clap for them for some reason. No clue why. I mean man that was a long ride. Now i am going back to reread the war arc just to get a better understanding, and a correct flow of the storyline (others should also in my opinion).


Kages:

Right now i am really hoping the next chapter to show some interaction between all the Kages. Especially the First Generation Kages, and how their first Gokage meet ended up uniting the world. And the hatred they put aside wasn't for nothing. =D

So i want an interraction between the kages next chapter, it'd be crazy. And I believe we now saw all the previous Mizukage also.

But that was great actually, Kages (strongest Shinobi of their specific generation) + Rikudou Senin xd


Rikudou and his brother's issue:

The timeline is once again changed. Its too confusing in my opinion right now.

- They sealed the 10-tails together according to rikudou, HOWEVER according to this chapter, they also sealed Kaguya, who technically had the 10-tails also? Unless Kaguya never had the 10-tails in the past.

- It was Rikudou by himself who did that chibaku tensei, and not his brother + rikudou. So i don't get the whole parrallel of the chibaku tense with Naruto/Sasuke = rikudou/bro.

- Rikudou Sennin is the strongest of all time. This is the main thing i got regarding him. Naruto/Sasuke or anyone is not going to surpass the Sage of the 6 paths.

So i guess we can wait on some clarifications later on... but i doubt we'll get any, since its probably going to be moving on to the next arc.

FINAL FIGHT: NARUTO VS SASUKE

IT IS TIMEEE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YESSSSSSSS. =D:bouncy::yayy::snick::x3::T_T:

KISHIMOTO MAKE IT HAPPEN YO!! END THE BIGGEST DEBATE IN NARUTO FAN HISTORY ABOUT WHO IS STRONGER NARUTO OR SASUKE. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!

ALOT OF US HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. We already know Naruto and Sasuke don't have the same ideals, and their approach is VERY different compared to each other.

#NarutoVsSasuke
#AshuraVsIndra
#HashiramaVsMadara
#SenjuVsUchiha



CONCLUSION

Itsss endingg, man. The series that grew up with is ending. Going to be hard to find any other series like Naruto. X_X.

But its been a great series so far OVERALL, of course it has had its ups and downs. But know what, everything has those.

So let me know how you guys feel about the things i posted, /final fight/rikudou/kages/690/ending of the war.

- How would you want it to end?

- you want Naruto V Sasuke?

- Want to see Kages Interact?

- Are you going to reread the War arc to get a "better flow" of the war storyline?
​

 

[Xez919]

Lol you really think it's ending. I bet Kishi's going to milk the hell out of it. Or give it to an assistant! If he does I hope the assistant can make it better than kishi!

 

[HiddenSound]

Wow. You flip flopping motherf*cler.

 

[trollkingx]

1. I want Naruto to beat Sasuke especially since he looks superior but some Naruto Aids has other plans(sauce winning)
2.Yes!!!
3. Dont see what they would do

 

[KingHashirama]

Wow. You flip flopping motherf*cler.

You should read my threads more often. I never insulted the series itself. There is no flip flopping, there is simply a change of mind, when something is presented to you.

Lol you really think it's ending. I bet Kishi's going to milk the hell out of it. Or give it to an assistant! If he does I hope the assistant can make it better than kishi!

You are over thinking. There is no need for such things anymore. There is nothing to do anymore in Naruto regarding Naruto uzumaki, except the Sasuke vs Naruto + hokage + him dealing with the world situation. No more "fancy villains".

 

[hixa kuogame]

Lol you really think it's ending. I bet Kishi's going to milk the hell out of it. Or give it to an assistant! If he does I hope the assistant can make it better than kishi!

"and I will read whatever comes out". You left that out..

 

[Angelic.]

i want them to go home and take baths.

that hamura hago paralel was weird. the whole thing is messy paralells. and when did hago get both seals?

 

[Gdamon]

I feel like that was rushed...

and the way she was beaten also makes no sense...

and the only kind of fight we are getting from Naruto and Sasuke is gonna be the chunin exam, cause those 2 are still genin...

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Since we have the closing of the war arc. I wanted to make a thread for myself to discuss with other members regarding some stuff (no arguing, just simply talking). The thread is going to be divided into sections. Feel free to give opinions on any of those sections, or all of them. =]


690 : awesome chapter:

Man this was chapter was nice, from Naruto and Sasuke beating Kaguya, to all Kages being there to Team 7 being declared as saviors. Just freaking awesome man. Just loved the chapter itself. Don't really care about the "kaguya troll". Simply glad the war is over, so we can move on.

However the last panel simply made me want to clap for them for some reason. No clue why. I mean man that was a long ride. Now i am going back to reread the war arc just to get a better understanding, and a correct flow of the storyline (others should also in my opinion).


Kages:

Right now i am really hoping the next chapter to show some interaction between all the Kages. Especially the First Generation Kages, and how their first Gokage meet ended up uniting the world. And the hatred they put aside wasn't for nothing. =D

So i want an interraction between the kages next chapter, it'd be crazy. And I believe we now saw all the previous Mizukage also.

But that was great actually, Kages (strongest Shinobi of their specific generation) + Rikudou Senin xd


Rikudou and his brother's issue:

The timeline is once again changed. Its too confusing in my opinion right now.

- They sealed the 10-tails together according to rikudou, HOWEVER according to this chapter, they also sealed Kaguya, who technically had the 10-tails also? Unless Kaguya never had the 10-tails in the past.

- It was Rikudou by himself who did that chibaku tensei, and not his brother + rikudou. So i don't get the whole parrallel of the chibaku tense with Naruto/Sasuke = rikudou/bro.

- Rikudou Sennin is the strongest of all time. This is the main thing i got regarding him. Naruto/Sasuke or anyone is not going to surpass the Sage of the 6 paths.

So i guess we can wait on some clarifications later on... but i doubt we'll get any, since its probably going to be moving on to the next arc.

FINAL FIGHT: NARUTO VS SASUKE

IT IS TIMEEE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YESSSSSSSS. =D:bouncy::yayy::snick::x3::T_T:

KISHIMOTO MAKE IT HAPPEN YO!! END THE BIGGEST DEBATE IN NARUTO FAN HISTORY ABOUT WHO IS STRONGER NARUTO OR SASUKE. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!

ALOT OF US HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. We already know Naruto and Sasuke don't have the same ideals, and their approach is VERY different compared to each other.

#NarutoVsSasuke
#AshuraVsIndra
#HashiramaVsMadara
#SenjuVsUchiha



CONCLUSION

Itsss endingg, man. The series that grew up with is ending. Going to be hard to find any other series like Naruto. X_X.

But its been a great series so far OVERALL, of course it has had its ups and downs. But know what, everything has those.

So let me know how you guys feel about the things i posted, /final fight/rikudou/kages/690/ending of the war.

- How would you want it to end?

- you want Naruto V Sasuke?

- Want to see Kages Interact?

- Are you going to reread the War arc to get a "better flow" of the war storyline?
​

Not going to counter what you said as I agree wih most of it, just wanted to say
1. Naruto and Sasuke together are stronger than Hagoromo
2. Kaguya is the Juubi

 

[The Necromancer]

What I don't understand is the whole Hagoromo and Hamura vs. Asura and Indra thing.

Sasuke and Naruto were said to have and shown to have Ashura and Indra's chakra eminating from their seals, and yet Indra and Ashura couldn't possibly be stronger than Hagoromo and Hamura who actually sealed Kaguya...

So why did they have the son's chakras when it was really the chakra of Kaguya's sons that did the job the first time? And how did Kaguya even know them?

 

[KingHashirama]

I feel like that was rushed...

and the way she was beaten also makes no sense...

and the only kind of fight we are getting from Naruto and Sasuke is gonna be the chunin exam, cause those 2 are still genin...

well Naruto due to him being a jinchuriki is already on a different level than the structure of the village, so it would be unfair to others to have those 2 in the chunin exams.

And yea man i get what you mean. But i'm simply choosing to ignore it right now. My problem was that there was going to be some further asspull, but i guess not. He just wanted to do a quick end. So eh i'm glad it ended quickly.

What I don't understand is the whole Hagoromo and Hamura vs. Asura and Indra thing.

Sasuke and Naruto were said to have and shown to have Ashura and Indra's chakra eminating from their seals, and yet Indra and Ashura couldn't possibly be stronger than Hagoromo and Hamura who actually sealed Kaguya...

So why did they have the son's chakras when it was really the chakra of Kaguya's sons that did the job the first time? And how did Kaguya even know them?

@Bold, that part is the thing that bothers me at the moment.

Not going to counter what you said as I agree wih most of it, just wanted to say
1. Naruto and Sasuke together are stronger than Hagoromo
2. Kaguya is the Juubi

1. Well i don't think so personally. Eh you can debate on it sure, but i think hes still the strongest dude. And also Naruto and Sasuke together probably COULD have been stronger than Hagoromo. ;p they lost the power given to them by Hagoromo.

2. That is true, however, from what i got from rikudou's flashbacks, Kaguya was already taken down, and then the juubi attacked, making Rikudou and his bro seal it.

 

[Ciao]

Sasuke and Naruto thumb war over Hokage.

 

[Rikudo SenninKun Namikaze]

What I don't understand is the whole Hagoromo and Hamura vs. Asura and Indra thing.

Sasuke and Naruto were said to have and shown to have Ashura and Indra's chakra eminating from their seals, and yet Indra and Ashura couldn't possibly be stronger than Hagoromo and Hamura who actually sealed Kaguya...

So why did they have the son's chakras when it was really the chakra of Kaguya's sons that did the job the first time? And how did Kaguya even know them?

black zetsu recorded everything for her. thats why she said, hogo n hamura when she grabbed them n cried, then said, no, ashura n indra, prolly after getting all rec knowledge from zetsu.

reason why it as the sons and not hamura n hobo was because hobo acquired the power hamura had somehow.
That power that sealed kaguya got split again into his sons, thus making them the only ones capable of sealing her.

 

[The Necromancer]

Ashura and Indra didn't have the sage's seals, just sayin'...

But the seals Naruto and Sasuke had were emitting chakra of Ashura and Indra specifically. Kaguya could see it in the seals.

 

[KingHashirama]

But the seals Naruto and Sasuke had were emitting chakra of Ashura and Indra specifically. Kaguya could see it in the seals.

I don't think the seals were emmiting their chakra. They already had the chakra of ashura and indra before the seals. The seals chakra was different.

 

[Angelic.]

the crescent was from hamura, full moon from hago. thats why she recognized it.

they fought juubi together and sealed her inside hago

You must be registered for see links

its also possible indra could be hamuras son.

You must be registered for see links

we were told he created the moon on his deathbed but if the moon was created the same day hago became the jin then it doesnt make sense

You must be registered for see links

 

[Darth Uchiha]

well Naruto due to him being a jinchuriki is already on a different level than the structure of the village, so it would be unfair to others to have those 2 in the chunin exams.

And yea man i get what you mean. But i'm simply choosing to ignore it right now. My problem was that there was going to be some further asspull, but i guess not. He just wanted to do a quick end. So eh i'm glad it ended quickly.



@Bold, that part is the thing that bothers me at the moment.


1. Well i don't think so personally. Eh you can debate on it sure, but i think hes still the strongest dude. And also Naruto and Sasuke together probably COULD have been stronger than Hagoromo. ;p they lost the power given to them by Hagoromo.

2. That is true, however, from what i got from rikudou's flashbacks, Kaguya was already taken down, and then the juubi attacked, making Rikudou and his bro seal it.

First, individually, they are both likely weaker than the Sage, however, together, they are more powerful, being as they took down Kaguya (who was stronger than him).

Second, they explain in the manga that the juubi came about when Kaguya used the power of the Shinju to turn into a monster in an attempt to reclaim her chakra (from her sons, no less).

 

[Torche]

2. Kaguya is the Juubi

That's the point. How did Hagoromo become the Jinchuuriki, yet they sealed Kaguya when they are part of each other? In other words, they apparently sealed the Juubi inside Hagoromo, yet Kaguya was still free, but when they sealed Kaguya it was the Gudou Mazou, but yet the Bijuu are still yet to be made as he did that in old age? Yet here it shows Kaguya, or "the Juubi" being sealed by both sons, and young at that. It's a mess of illogicality.

 

[Itachi Edo]

I read this chapter in public and the words I used when finishing it would have made a sailor take notes. Kishi might as well have kept Madara around given all the build up. There was no pay off to this ending, because Kaguya as a character did nothing worth making it feel like a earned ending. Hate them all you want, but Madara and Obito had development.

I swear my expectations for the ending have been lowered greatly.

 

[Itachi Edo]

What happened to the army she was building? Who was supposed to be a threat to her? Man, seriously, Kishi could have kept his Kaguya plot twist to himself. His editor was clearly trying to milk this, because she was useless as a character.