[Discussion] Final battle officially set?

[kunde]

i think the decissive battle would be
ichigo vs juha bach/ishida
kenpachi vs jugram haschwalth

 

[TheHokage]

The CURRENT KENPACHI. Killed Unohana with Ease mate.... The full powered kenpachi... without any of his bankai or etc. Something Ichigo is not capable of.

"Kenpachi" is the title of the strongest Shinigami. It was purely a speculation to say Yamamoto was stronger then Unohana ;x.

Uryuu will be stronger then Juha Bach, how exactly will he not be a challenge?

False, ever since he "lost" to Ichigo (technically it was Kenpachi's win). He has always chased after Ichigo asking for a rematch. Kenpachi is not the type of a person that will quit on the person he lost to. And to him, he lost to Juha Bach.

It actually does help my case.. since Uryuu is literally the Sasuke of Bleach.. lmao.

I concede stupidity is incurable.

For arguments sake lets say you're right Kenpachi defeated Unohana with ease (Despite the fact he was defeated a lot of times) you assume current Ichigo can't defeat Unohana on what bases...and don't give the answer "becoz iz obvius" as that's not an answer that's you're opinion one you have no evidence to back yourself up with.

I wouldn't say it was speculation that Yamamoto was the strongest since, as since she was a Kenpachi she enjoyed battle she admitted to looking for people to fight and seeing how Yamamoto was the original leader of the Gotei 13 he must have been the strongest so he could keep them in line 'If he had to'. The same way the Arrancar's never went against Aizen because he was the strongest.

Uryu has the potential to be stronger than Bach on his own, however Bach now has the power of Yamamoto's Bankai now and having Ichigo vs Uryu as a final fight makes no sense at all as Uryu is not a bad guy it's obvious he has other motives as Uryu is not the type of person that would betray everyone especially Orihime (and since she is in alliance with the Shinigami's and Arrancar's they will be enemies of the Quincies) Also Ichigo and Uryu are Nakama if anything it will be a fight where Uryu will have to either prove his alliance with the Quincies or for arguments sake again he has turned to the Quincies it will be a battle where Ichigo opens his eyes as to what's happening.

It's clear that you're bias since you're a Kenpachi fanboy when it comes to anything regarding him however the fight with Ichigo and Kenpachi was actually a draw but you'll say "But Ichigo fell down first he's the lozer" Actually both Ichigo and Kenpachi where carried away, not to mention Ichigo was at a huge disadvantage to start with he was injured before the fight got serious (Remember when Kenpachi stabbed him) His Quincy powers could only hold off the bleeding for so long and after the last attack it couldn't hold off any longer. (Anyway this is a completely different debate)

So what if he's chased after Ichigo, the whole point is used for comic relied it's not meant to be taken seriously if you're using that then you're arguments pretty weak, it's like me saying Ichigo doesn't hit Rukia back after she hits him that must make her stronger than him, not to mention Ichigo and Kenpachi are Nakama.

I don't know how you possibly came to the equation that Kenpachi is not the type of person that will quit to someone he lost to as if that's the case I'll use you're own point against you Kenpachi is always after Ichigo (Not quitting) so does that mean he lost to Ichigo. (Do you see how that's contradicting yourself)

Zaraki has never once cared about revenge he lives for the thrill of a fight, nothing more he might fight Juhabach but he won't win. Anyway you say it makes more sense for Kenpachi to fight Juhabach because he lost so he needs revenge right, well to be honest I think Ichigo has more right not only did he lose to Juhabach but Juha is also the main reason his 'Mother' died you know the most important person who was in Ichigo's life.

No comparing Manga has never helped in arguments...it's stupid. Listen Naruto is not Bleach it's not going to follow some similar pattern in fights because another series has done it, that's simply another one of you're opinions so you can try justify why you think Kenpachi should fight Juhabach.

The chances of Ichigo being the one to defeat Juhabach are way higher because -

1) Ichigo is the main character
2) Juhabach is the Quincy king and since this arc is about Quincies he's also the main antagonist
3) Ichigo was defeated by Juhabach and it was even foreshadowed that Juha and Ichigo will meet again.
4) Juhabach is the one who is responsible for Masaki's death since he took her powers.
5) At the moment Juhabach with Yamamoto's Bankai is the strongest character we know (Juhabach meant Uryu's power might surpass his but to surpass his power and Yamamoto's Bankai 'get real' the Main character (Ichigo) will be the strongest at the end so it only makes sense that he is the one to defeat an enemy of that power.

Finally Ichigo's potential is way higher than Kenpachi's, Kenpachi has the potential to be the strongest Shinigami, yes no doubt about that...but Ichigo can go higher he has the ability to become a transcended being making him stronger than any Shinigami.

Anyway this post is most likely useless on you since you're to busy over hyping Kenpachi and will most likely be disappointed when in fact the thing you're predicting doesn't come true then you'll probably post another thread about how Kubo is trolling because Kenpachi didn't defeat Juhabach and wasn't named god of the Shinigami's.

 

[SharinganGr]

Same old story again....
Claiming that someone is stronger than someone else....

How can you say how strong is someone when he hasn't fought yet?
And how can you use logic when this is a manga?There is no logic behind it, TK will decide the winners and the losers according to the way he wants the manga to go on....so relax ane enjoy it....

Also, Kenpachi didn't defeat Unohana easily....she killed him many many times so that he can become strong enough to defeat her....SHE WANTED THAT TO HAPPEN!