You are insistent on getting answers out of me, yet you do nothing with them. Why should I continue to play things your way if you can't even work with what I've already given?
Fair enough, I will have a look at that reads list of yours. You can't really say that I don't work with what you have given me looking at that I have just commented in length about reads of yours and thoughts of yours from your latest wall post.
I do wish this site had an ISO-function, or something related to that though.
To ISO a player you can go in right corner of the forum, click /press search icon and choose to search In the thread posts by a certain member. The search has 20 posts per page.
Eliphas:
Light townlean off this post - as I'd think mafia would be concerned about not tipping their hand off or be held accountable for actions, which a question regarding mechanics may do.
Red:
I like the motivation in this post. A bit too soon to say whether it's real or fabricated though.
Waindo:
I don't fully understand this comment. Generally, either you are town or you are pretending to be town. Where's the need to hint at your faction, rather than simply playing to your wincon? Or am I misunderstanding something here.
AIVION:
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I'd say newer sites, or games at newer players, will be more heavily reliant on mechanics, I guess? Role madness seems to be common here as well. Those tend to be more fun for the majority as I'm presuming most people prefer rolling a power role opposed to vanilla.
Junegirl_19
I'm also a bit inclined to scumlean this post. I don't think they've said anything else, but there was certainly more to comment on at the time. Even if they are a new player and are confused on how to go about the game, asking questions would be a step forward. From the games I've played, it's also statistically more likely for mafia to make an intro post, without adding anything new to the game, and then check out. We'll see if they post more though.
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I could be tinfoiling, but I've grown skeptical of Misa and Aivion. I'll try to word it properly sometime later if the suspicion lasts.
Let's go from there, the first post you were talking about: small edits for readability reasons: I get the Eliphas reasoning. Truth be told, looking at newer posts of them they remind me a bit of AngryPotato during Champs last year. Slightly lost, but giving off a "pure" vibe. Don't want to go there either. Red I don't agree with you; they give off a rather chaotic, but pure vibe. I haven't seen a single post that felt like scum motivation off of them. Waindo.... was discussed at length already, got better and is playing the game by now, I'd not look too deeply into that post at this point any more. No idea why you put AIVION where you put her, since the post that you cited and your answer didn't really lead me to any read of yours on her, neither scum nor town. I've stated that I feel her town very strongly in the past, although she dropped off in terms of content (like me) and I'd hope to see them back to discuss the game with them. No comment towards Junegirl since I am terribad at reading entrance posts.
Well with such many new players it is sure to be a brain trip for me figuring everyone out.
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Fluff posting is giving content that is not useful to the game, such as talking about the weather or something. Your posts such consist of information that can help others find the mafia. Or make it look like you are town.
@SleepingTerror i didn't notice your unvote in post #275 i will remake the last 3 vote tallies.
Sorry for this, please anyone tell me about any mistake i am making.
Red - Commented on already; I like their motivation, but it will take me time to assess whether it's genuine or not, in that I didn't fully agree with their vote on Eli and simply saying "I want to move the game forward" is NAI. Aivion - Also commented on. Similar reasons to why I initially became skeptical of you, they were existing in the thread rather than making attempts to progress it. They gave townleans on you and Red, but those were fairly easy reads to give (as most townleans on active players tend to be). I'd argue all of their posts could be made by the opposite alignment. If I were to underestimate their capabilities as a wolf, I'd perhaps townlean the lack of shying away from the thread, but they've played on other sites before. Lonely - A decent player based on the last game I saw him in, so I look forward to seeing more of his reads. Not interested in touching him currently, though I'd like more commentary on other players in general, as (again) the majority of his posts could be made by any alignment. Waindo - A rather lacking ISO, to be honest. They've yet to give reads on other players and seem solely focused on their own appearance. Need further reason for their vote on you, as I can't imagine it's for the same exact reasoning as mine. If anything though, I find their emphasis on their town alignment to be slightly more likely to come from town, based on past games. Something to do with a bias in knowing their own alignment - sometimes it's difficult to see why others would scumread you when it's clear to yourself that you're town. Ansatsuken - Townlean, particularly for their read of Poison. He's gotten some negative attention for calling his read of her based on "feeling," but I think scum can easily fabricate reasoning as they have insider info. I don't believe it's scum being lazy for not explaining but rather town with a genuine read on another player they can't quite explain (a common occurrence for me)
AIVION: Okay, here is the explanation that wasn't in the other post, I remember. What made me townlean them is that they provided me with a game of theirs on MU, free of charge, that allowed me to look for similarities. It was a town game where they ended up the N1 kill out of purity and for the D1 lynched scum pushing them hard, basically being cleared. Their style was basically identical to what I saw here. Also, while I do think that some of their early posts have been fluff I feel that they used their posts and bantering to get a feel for the other players, which I don't count as "not attempting to progress the game". I have to admit, I HAVE been pocketed by that kind of playstyle by scum, but I will never go there today.
LONELY: Maybe this is a playstyle issue, but when I see a strong player and I have no idea what his alignment might be I try to push and pressure him until I get a satisfactory answer. "He's a strong null, moving on" is not how I'd handle the situation. I don't remember you posting an updated read on him, are you leaning either way by now?
WAINDO: Again, has changed his play a lot since that one post, so I'm not going to stick here. My pressuring him should show that at that point I completely agreed with your position.
ANSATSUKEN: I see your argument, but I can't help but feel null about them. Call it a gut feeling. I think I need to see how some of their pressured people flip. I am also still confused about which part they pressed about me; this might be due to a difference in play style and I need to observe them longer before I can set them as town.
Hm... I remember that the first post felt a bit odd, but all other posts felt natural and free-flowing to me. Looking forward whether or not you will change your read later down the line, and I'm interested in what part of it you feel is artificial.
Vote @Odd
Reason: he is completely throwing around votes everywhere without proper reasoning. He isnt contributing to this game other then vote counts and posts saying: "You'll thank me later." Keeping him alive will not help town, becauee he is all over the place and not contributing to actual debate in thought. Not voting him to me seems a little scummy becaue he is a destructive player, hurting town by not giving reasosn for anything and if he is mafai he is a very bad mafia player, due to pulling random votes out into the game.
Vote @Odd
Reason: he is completely throwing around votes everywhere without proper reasoning. He isnt contributing to this game other then vote counts and posts saying: "You'll thank me later." Keeping him alive will not help town, becauee he is all over the place and not contributing to actual debate in thought. Not voting him to me seems a little scummy becaue he is a destructive player, hurting town by not giving reasosn for anything and if he is mafai he is a very bad mafia player, due to pulling random votes out into the game.
AIVION: Okay, here is the explanation that wasn't in the other post, I remember. What made me townlean them is that they provided me with a game of theirs on MU, free of charge, that allowed me to look for similarities. It was a town game where they ended up the N1 kill out of purity and for the D1 lynched scum pushing them hard, basically being cleared. Their style was basically identical to what I saw here. Also, while I do think that some of their early posts have been fluff I feel that they used their posts and bantering to get a feel for the other players, which I don't count as "not attempting to progress the game". I have to admit, I HAVE been pocketed by that kind of playstyle by scum, but I will never go there today.
All_Red voted with incorrect format in post #80 and unvoted with incorrect format in post #168 voted in post #233, unvoted incorrect and voted in post #431
If misa is not scum I would be surprised, all red is not confirmed for me, however her vote on odd seems like she wants to get rid of him early. It's clear to me that waindo and odd are town so I don't know why she wants to lynch them.