-Armed with the knowledge that Obito is vulnerable to Sage jutsu, Kirin may make a return, as it's essentially a mixture of Sasuke's chakra [Fire style: Art of the Dragon Flame] and natural energy [Lightning]. From exaggerated size to sheer power, it has all the makings of a Sage jutsu, but is unique in that the chakra mixing process takes place outside of the body, I.E. Sasuke does not need to be in Sage mode to use a Sage jutsu.
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-Sasuke may regain the ability to absorb natural energy, thanks to gaining Jugo's dna, which allows a person to enter Sage transformation. This had been hinted for some time now, with the "murderous" Sasuke from the Kage summit, the "darker" chakra, and Susanoo that resembles the Sage transformation of Jugo.
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It is already known that Sasuke's body can withstand Sage energy, and his body is critical in the plans of Orochimaru and Kabuto. This may explain his recent exposure to Kabuto, as well as Jugo's seemingly irrelevant presence on the battlefield.
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-For some time now, Kishimoto has been suggesting that Sasuke is capable of using Izanagi. Suspiciously, he's shown right after Tobirama claims Obito's technique would kill anyone.
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Lastly, it's suggested that Sasuke's next step in power, which is the Yamabushi Susanoo, is equal to Naruto's current Kyubi transformation. The step after that, would be the completed Kyubi for Naruto, and then perfect Susanoo for Sasuke.
Uh, Kirin isn't a mix of Sasuke's chakra and natural energy. It's pure natural energy guided by Sasuke. Regardless, it may effect Juubito. Also, it's been stated that the curse mark is weaker than the actual sage transformation. Kabuto regarded incomplete DSM as much more powerful than curse mark, so that doesn't mean Sasuke can handle a sage mode.
Kirin uses the chakra from the fire jutsu, as well chakra from Sasuke as a way to shape itself into a beast. There is no "pure" natural energy attack, besides maybe frog sparring.
Also, it's been stated that the curse mark is weaker than the actual sage transformation. Kabuto regarded incomplete DSM as much more powerful than curse mark, so that doesn't mean Sasuke can handle a sage mode.
The curse mark isn't weaker. It's simply not as balanced. It's a sealed version of Jugo's power designed to allow other shinobi to enter the state, as Karin plainly says.
Kirin uses the chakra from the fire jutsu, as well chakra from Sasuke as a way to shape itself into a beast. There is no "pure" natural energy attack, besides maybe frog sparring.
The curse mark isn't weaker. It's simply not as balanced. It's a sealed version of Jugo's power designed to allow other shinobi to enter the state, as Karin plainly says.
Sasuke has yet to show capacity for senjutsu I doubt the Uchiha have the ability to absorb natural chakra for senjutsu and let's be honest do they need more power ups? And didn't orochimaru alude to the fact that sasuke didn't have a capacity for senjutsu? He never used it because of curse mark so be wouldn't feel the need to use senjutsu.
Shinobi cannot manipulate the environment without using their chakra on said environment. The chakra used from the fire jutsu, is still retained in the clouds, and he then uses that to gain control the lightning into a beast.
"Unbalanced" as in the natural energy is not balanced with the shinobi's chakra, with is what causes the monster appearance and loss of control. It's imperfect in that sense, just as how Jiraiya's Sage mode is imperfect.
It's natural energy mixed with chakra to create a jutsu. It's simply an external Sage jutsu as opposed to an internal one.
The rest of your questions are bunk.
Shinobi cannot manipulate the environment without using their chakra on said environment. The chakra used from the fire jutsu, is still retained in the clouds, and he then uses that to gain control the lightning into a beast.
"Unbalanced" as in the natural energy is not balanced with the shinobi's chakra, with is what causes the monster appearance and loss of control. It's imperfect in that sense, just as how Jiraiya's Sage mode is imperfect.
1. Sage Mode has the user draw in natural energy/chakra and balance it with their own chakra. How can there be an external Sage jutsu if this is what it takes to use Sage Mode?
2. Kirin is a natural energy technique. The only chakra used comes in if the storm must first be created using fire style and to shape the lightning. The lightning itself is pure nature. Sasuke simply uses his chakra to shape it that energy. Ultimately though, he cannot use Kirin unless a storm is present.
3. I think you are reaching here. A truly unbalanced Sage Mode would destroy the user, not simply make him go into a rampage. Juugo's village was probably using the term "Sage" to indicate the dangers.
I agree BlinkSt. Varrah used to predict Sasuke might be the first Uchiha to achieve Sage mode, guess we'll see. Obito does have alot of one shot kill moves, so Izanagi would play a major part.
2. Kirin is a natural energy technique. The only chakra used comes in if the storm must first be created using fire style and to shape the lightning. The lightning itself is pure nature. Sasuke simply uses his chakra to shape it that energy. Ultimately though said:
1. Yes, Obito said he was invulnerable to ninjutsu. It's been established he is vunerable to Sage Jutsu, not that Sage Jutsu is the only thing he is vulnerable to. He is vunerable to natural attacks, and lightning is a force of nature. Sasuke only directs it
2. Lightning travels rather fast
3. The fodders are keeping away from this battle, and he didn't hit himself last time when he was standing close.
Interesting. Regarding what Karin said at the Summit, perhaps Susanoo responding to Juugo's cells is what caused it? Sasuke's chakra may have been rapidly increasing potency in order to manifest Susanoo upon awakening the technique, quickly increasing his chakra's thickness, in response, Juugo's cells may have been amplified which might have have been what caused his Susanoo to take a darker and similar shape to that of Juugo's Sage Transformation. This would explain why Sasuke hadn't yet reacted to Juugo's cells with murderous intent and an inability to discern friend from foe immediately after the transfer.
1. Sage Mode has the user draw in natural energy/chakra and balance it with their own chakra. How can there be an external Sage jutsu if this is what it takes to use Sage Mode?
Because Sage jutsu as you said, are jutsu where natural energy and the shinobi's chakra are mixed. That's it. Whether or not it's internal or external is not important, as long as it is mixed.
2. Kirin is a natural energy technique. The only chakra used comes in if the storm must first be created using fire style and to shape the lightning. The lightning itself is pure nature. Sasuke simply uses his chakra to shape it that energy.
That's false, and you don't seem to comprehend the message I'm trying to get over. The appearance of a Sage mode user has to do with the balance. Jiraiya's Sage mode is nothing like Kabuto's or Naruto's in regards to the abilities it gives him, yet it's still referred to as Sage mode.
2. Kirin is a natural energy technique. The only chakra used comes in if the storm must first be created using fire style and to shape the lightning. The lightning itself is pure nature. Sasuke simply uses his chakra to shape it that energy. Ultimately though said:
Because Sage jutsu as you said, are jutsu where natural energy and the shinobi's chakra are mixed. That's it. Whether or not it's internal or external is not important, as long as it is mixed.
Exactly, which makes it a mixture of both.
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That's false, and you don't seem to comprehend the message I'm trying to get over. The appearance of a Sage mode user has to do with the balance. Jiraiya's Sage mode is nothing like Kabuto's or Naruto's in regards to the abilities it gives him, yet it's still referred to as Sage mode.
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No, the term "Sage" was used, because it's basically Sage mode.
Sage Mode has never been shown to be an external event. All the Sage jutsu that have been used have been used while IN Sage mode. Plus, it has been shown that the user must be still long enough to use Sage mode. Combine that with the fact that we have only ever seen the natural energy gathered internally means that the external jutsu you speak of can't be.
A mixture, yes, but not how you are speaking of it.
No, it is true. The picture you posted of Jiraiya shows him after he fused with Ma and Pa. This is the only way he was able to achieve an imperfect Sage Mode. If they hadn't fused with him then he would have turned into a stone statue because of the imbalance. The same would be true of anyone. Imbalance of chakra and natural energy equals the demise of the user.
I doubt that but there is no point to argue about it.
Sage Mode has never been shown to be an external event. All the Sage jutsu that have been used have been used while IN Sage mode. Plus, it has been shown that the user must be still long enough to use Sage mode. Combine that with the fact that we have only ever seen the natural energy gathered internally means that the external jutsu you speak of can't be.
Once again, missing the point. The purpose of Sage mode is to be able to incorporate natural energy into one's own body, thereby strengthening all types of jutsu. However, that method is not the only way to strengthen certain ninjutsu. The mixture can also take place outside, which was the case with Kirin.
