Kakashi was ready to kill Sasuke because he had YEARS to think about what would he do if he encountered him and he didn't want to come back!
In the other end, he only had a few hours after he realised Tobi was, indeed, Obito!
You forgot one question! Here:
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Where did Naruto get the Shukaku/Ichibi's (One-tail) chakra?
It has been bugging me ever since I saw that panel! If what you said he's right, then the Hachibi only needs to give Naruto chakra and he will have them all inside him! Perhaps, that's what's coming next week...
1. It is possible that the image of the Sage is when he had already suppressed the Ten Tails. The panel before that did show that Naruto had chakra of all the other beasts inside of him, which could be a parallel for the Sage having the Ten Tails inside of himself.
2. Sakura's healing abilities are very good but not on the level of Tsunade's. Tsunade healed herself with mitotic regen when she and Ay were transported. Ay just withstood it like his father.
3. I think Obito just used the Rinnegan to control 6 other bodies. He might not have the chakra reserves for Rinnegan jutsu.
4. Obito isn't going to turn good. He has already thrown those possibilities aside with what he has said in this chapter.
5. You don't need to be an Uzumaki to be a Jinchuriki. They are just better hosts because they have a lot of chakra and can better suppress the beast. Any beast can be stored in an item if that item is a sealing weapon or a correct jutsu is used. The Mist's plan was to seal the beast in Rin, knowing it would eventually go on a rampage like with the Shukaku and Gaara, then have her return to the village to weaken the Leaf. Also, when a Jin dies, so does the beast, for a time anyway. The beast regenerates because it is made of chakra.
6.Yes Kakashi is a hypocrite. He feels to deeply for Obito because he blames himself for what has happened to him.
1. is that so? then why did the bijju's chakra reminded him of so6p ? and you still didn't answered the question.
2. can't say for sure.
3. Obito was taught so6p techs and what not! Also he used some crazy mokuton techs right after obtaining hashi dna.
The way obito was hyped in the manga, it is a contradiction.
4. can't rely on your opinion after seeing your reply.
5. so anyone can become it's host? :sy:
6. kakashi aint a person like that. Also, he didn't killed obito on purpose, how would you explain that.
I think No. Because the Jinchuriki can talk with the Bijuu within them. So juubi can witness those eyes which got powered up or changed like this below.
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2. Sakura's healing capacity is the best in the manga now? OR maybe a hyperbola or something like that?
That's not true because Madara chose Nagato to revive him later. But the plan didn't go accordingly. And now Madara depend upon Obito to revive him. If Obito was not able to use the rinnegan then Madara could have had killed him for what Obito spoke here.
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This proves that Obito still can use rinnegan abilities.
No he won't. He's completely correct at his reasoning. If he turned back now and everything gets settled, one day will come when the cycle will start again because the future generations will come up with new thoughts and ideas the way Hashirama and Madara did. And they will follow their path creating similar situation what the present generation is facing right now.
5. Why rin was chosen to be the bijju jinchuriki ??
Kakashi is doing the same thing what Naruto did during Kage Summit Arc. Naruto understands Sasuke for what he did and still hope for Sasuke to return back to the village. During that time Kakashi was acting like a decoy to give time for Naruto and Sakura to run because he knew that he won't be able to stop Sasuke. Even if Kakashi found out the truth behind Uchiha Massacre as explained by Tobi, he wasn't convinced.
But after understanding Obito's reasons, he understands Obito for his doing and now wants Obito to return back.
Again my questions require critical thinking skills which a basic NB member usually lacks which could be seen in the bad response that this amazing chapter got in 629 discussion thread. This is the thread where i will ask all my question related to chapter 629 since there is something i found in this chapter to be "unclear" . Don't bother posting if you have IQ below 100 .
1. Did so6p had rinnegan before he fought the juubi ?
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Here you can see the juubi saw the same "eyes" in naruto that he saw in so6p. And by eyes, i don't mean rinnegan, i mean the determination to protect your friends.
Anyway, I used to think all along that sage got rinnegan after he became juubi jinchuriki but, here , we can see that juubi fought so6p who possessed rinnegan prior to the battle, which is why so6p is shown with rinnegan.
What i am trying to say is, so6p should have been showed with normal eyes if he fought juubi without rinnegan.
If that is the case then it doesn't make sense at all, because rinnegan is supposed to be an evolved version of sharingan as stated by kabuto and clearly, sharingan orginated from the juubi.
2. Sakura's healing capacity is the best in the manga now? OR maybe a hyperbola or something like that?
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"in a flash..."
Which means either she didn't meant it and was just trying to cheer up naruto or her healing abilities are now on par with tsunade (the best healer) who could heal raikage and herself too quickly as they travelled with light speed in the battlefield which could destroy their body(refer to the manga chapter when madara was revived and gokages were heading to battlefield if you don't remember) .
3. Obito cannot use rinnegan abilities like nagato ?
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Obito admits kakashi could have killed him in certain situations , but he is forgetting he possess a mutha f*ing rinnegan which can absorb ninjutsu !
this only leads to one conclusion, obito is fodder at using rinnegan? Or he cannot use it at all ?
4. Would obito get TNJ'd ?
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^ this page makes me think he wont and kakashi is just being an idiot trying to convince obito to be on good side. Kakashi should know obito have went far too down on path of hatred and done way too much crimes and his end result is death.
5. Why rin was chosen to be the bijju jinchuriki ??
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I mean , aren't uzumaki the perfect host for jinhcuriki ? Or being an uzumaki doesn't matter at all ?
What was the mist village thinking?
Trying to make a non-uzumaki a jinchuriki would most likely fail! Like what the hell, how does this make sense ? :sy:
Or wait wait wait...!
did they succeeded in making rin the jinchuriki of 3 tails which is why they were trying to unleash it on konoha ?
If that is the case, then why didn't the 3 tails break free and rampaged when its host died ???
this doesn't make any sense at all
6. Is kakashi a hypocrite ?
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Like seriously this was the worst thing happening in naruto manga :sy: !
Obito is a f**ing criminal , he did the most evil deeds than any other criminal in the world? BUT still kakashi is trying to bring obito back?
And then what about sasuke, his own student ?!!?!
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Kakashi was ready to kill sasuke his own student who haven't done 100000x things less bad than obito , yet he is trying to protect obito ?
Like seriously WTF ??? :sy:
1. Yes. it would seem that the SO6P had the rinnegan durring the fight with the juubi, and was not caused by a mutation when he sealed the juubi into his body.
2. What I got from Sakura is a mixed answer. Either Naruto's wounds are rather minor, or she is ignorant. She does not have the best healing capacity in the manga. Not until it is recognized by hashirama and tsunade. Naruto is mainly hindered by his lack of chakra right now. Not the condition of his body. As a medic, she can heal him. But she wont be able to make him "Fighting fit". He will need to gather his chakra (and Kurama too) again. ~yes. She also could have said it to cheer Naruto up, saying that she has his back.
3. Obito can use Rinnegan. Otherwise, he would not have been able to link visions with the dead jinjuriki, and summon the chains to control the TB. That is a Rinnetech. He may not be as well versed in the Rinnejutsu as Nagato, who had it most of his life. But, he also does not need to rely on it as much as Nagato did. Saying that Kakashi could have killed him... Obito is just saying that Kakashi is weak. That he hesitates.
There are two main choices that I can think of. One: Obito's zetsu DNA has fully spread through his body, making him invulnerable to most attacks, and able to heal everywhere, and not feel pain. Two: Obito running himself through is all genjutsu. For the First one: We know that Kakashi could not have killed him. (well. I think) If Kakashi had doen a raikiri then, it would have the same effect as now. Obito feels no pain. This is a trait that zetsu said they had. He used genjutsu only to have Kakashi not see Obito run himself through. Used it only to get up, and step forward, without kakashi knowing. This is a possibility because he wanted Kakashi to relive the emotions he felt when he killed Rin.
For the Second one: Well. genjutsu is genjutsu. he could be elsewhere doing who knows what. doesnt really matter. But he did it for the same reason as the other option.
4. I cant see obito getting Talk no jutsu'd. Obito really has given up on reality. He wont change. But, who knows. 5. She was not supposed to be the "perfect jinjuriki". She was supposed to get to Konoha, and then the beast would wreak havoc. If she was the perfect jinjuriki, it would go against plan. Rin was chosen because she was rin. I think that Madara was in control of the mist, and did this to either destroy the leaf, or the other option~ having obito give up on reality and join him. Win-Win situation for Madara. 6. I think that yes. He was a hypocrite. and he was also inspired by Naruto. He wants his friends to live. Kakashi knows the pain of having no friends around. And he understands that What Naruto said was true. He wants to believe that Obito can become who he was once. As ignorant and hopeless as this is, Kakashi might soon realize that its futile. It may take time, but someone will probably die in that Kamui Dimension.
you've got a point there, kaksashi knew itachi's story (exactly like naruto )and still wanted to kill him but look now at him can't kill obito and i don't understand why?:sy:
1. The Juubi was sealed inside so6p. So it should also have known him with rinnengan for much longer than without. So it's possible it would see him with rinnengan, even if he didn't have it before he sealed it.
2. I think it's just a manner of expression with no physical meaning to it. Like a metaphor.
3. Yeah either that, or he wanted to make a point to Kakashi. But I don't think he can use the rinnengan very well. Besides if he learned to use it in such short time, wouldn't it be rather haxed? (not knowing how much time Madara spent with it, though)
4. Hmm, well problem is, if those 2 ally, who can stop them? Kamui is already so extremely haxed, which is why the 2 of them, were placed in the other dimension together. Kishi knows Kamui is too haxed. Potentially, I see no way for Madara to defend against it, and absorbing him be as good as sealing him.
5. Yeah this is quite troublesome. Of course most Uzumaki's were dead at this point in time, so it would not be possible.. I think sealing techniques can be rather complex. It would not be a surprise if they made a seal, which would only activate upon command. I mean they wanted her to go back to Konoha, so that the Sanbi would go on a rampage. To do that, they would need to activate it somehow. So that is my take on it at least, although it's rather unclear, why they chose her. Probably just wrong place wrong time.
Mist never really participated in any wars. Who was the 3rd Mizukage, and why exactly did they want to go on war with Konoha? We don't know any of that.
6. It's as if Kakashi believes in Naruto more than anyone else. He wants to clear any "obstacle" in Naruto's path as the child of prophecy. Sasuke was (maybe still is) a huge obstacle. The darkness in Naruto's mind, that could get him killed. Kakashi didn't want that.
Obito is different, because Kakashi believes, he is to blame for Obito's current hate towards the world. Kakashi knows, Obito was like Naruto, and if he wants to understand, what happened to him. I doubt Kakashi ever thought, he could bring Obito back to the way he was, but by understanding Obito's feelings, he might be able to protect Naruto in a better way in the future!
you've got a point there, kaksashi knew itachi's story (exactly like naruto )and still wanted to kill him but look now at him can't kill obito and i don't understand why?:sy:
1. i'm not sure maybe but they do say it's the source of his power
2. without tsunade youp youp
3. i bet the rinnegan takes time to master
4. i doubt it, it was the whole point of this week's manga IMO
5. it doesn't nesesarily need to be an uzumaki and plus they were planning on sealing it on her then relesing it right afterwards, mabe she was the perfet candidate like bee
6. sometimes you can't let go of some things even if they are irrational, i bet kakashi had a much stronger relationship with obito than sasuke
1. I always believed the sage had the rinnegan BEFORE he battled with juubi. You believed that the rinnegan could only be unlocked if you had the sharingan, but i believe when kabuto said that he was ONLY implying to uchiha.
Because the Uchiha and Hyuugs descended from the sage they would have the watered down version of the rinnegan. The sage had always possessed the rinnegan and whenn he had children they aquired a diferent doujutsu, most likely its possible that the sharingan has features of the juubi becuase it the sage had children while he was the juubi jinchuuriki then its possible their doujutsu aquire juubi features. Much like naruto aquired whiskers from kyuubi and Gaara aquired dark rings around eyes like shikaku.
I might have messed up my explaination alittle, as im still kinda tired right now. If you wish for me to go into it some more just let me know.
2. I think she was just trying to cheer naruto up. Being Positive.
3. I DONT believe obito can use the rinnegan abilities like nagato. My sole reason for believing this is because nagato only has ONE rinnegan. It just my opinion, but i believe you need both eyes to actually have all the abilities the rinnegan provides. Much like how you need both the sharingan in each eye to use all its abilities and susanoo.
5. I dont think it matters what clan your from for most the bijuu, as long as you have a huge chakra reserve. The uzumaki clan are the only ones who could become the kyuubi's host, because they have special chakra that helps them hold him.
1)that will remain a mystery unless you refer to the 5-kage summit arc where they state he had two children uchiha and senju one inherited his bodily power (senju) and the other his ocular abilities (uchiha) so i would say he always had it (just connecting the dots) and that this eye is what gave him chance against the juubi
2)Sakura might've surpassed tsunade as tsunade said back before part one ended sakura possessed a "Natural" talent as a medic shinobi even better than shizune
3)No i don't think he can if he could've he would've already used it he is nowhere near the level of Nagato he has a few as he has pointed out he could use rinne tensei however he wouldnt sacrifice himself so madara could just end everything without them suffering (the allied shinobi force)
4)i honestly doubt obito will be swayed and that kakashi will have to kill obito or be killed by obito i can honestly say i have had a nagging suspicion a few important characters are not going home alive
5)in kakashi's story (gaiden if you like that name better) it was mentioned rin had a very special chakra i can only guess it must've been really similar to an uzumaki or just strong enough to supress it long enough to get into the village
6)yes kakashi is hell of a hypocrite yes but there are other reason's hes trying to do this to obito simply he blames himself for obito being evil as obito's first reason he gave to starting the war when we found out it was obito was simply kakashi let rin die so its likely he blames himself and can't bring himself to kill a friend who taught him so much after he was gone
anyway how was that for a Naruto base noob lol i've kept up with manga and anime of naruto since i saw the first episode on tooonami just because we are new here doesnt mean we are new to Naruto anyway your welcome if this helps
At 3, this would be a contradiction then. Obito showed great skill in ninjutsu and not being able to use rinnegan abilities would sound stupid.
5. i will have to read kakashi gaiden again i guess.
1) i am confused as well...better read Sir derp obito's So6p related threads...
2)sakura was just cheering naruto up....so as others by standing in front of full fledged juubi...i think this should be enough to explain what sakura was doing/thinking of doing...
3)If he could have he would have....till now we have only seen the "6 path of pain" jutsu as far as rinnegan dojutsus r concerned...so ya I strongly believe he can't use other jutsus...reason:dunno
4)The chances of obito getting Tnj'd got lowered due to today's chapter....no doubt about that....
5) a) Its no where mentioned that only uzumaki's r fit to be jinchuriki's....
konoha(senju) chose uzumaki coz they were renowned for having special chkra that suppresses bijuu's chakra...it doesn't mean that other
can't be....
b)The mist were planning on creating caos in konoha...so they just picked a random person whose fitness to be a jinchuriki was not even checked coz the main aim of the mist was not to create a perfect jinchuriki....
c)Now as per kushina and 4th raikage when a jinchuriki dies the bijuu reappears but not immediately....as per raikage's words...""killing naruto here would delay the revival of kyuubi"" see DELAY...so this is the reason the sambi didn't appear just after rin got killed....if u want i can post manga proofs....
1. Yea i have read his theories, he never talked about so6p having rinnegan before/after battle and most of his theories told me what i already knew or i have read something similar somewhere else.
4. i hope so.
5 c) oh i see. SO that explains why was the 3 tails roaming around and deidara caught him randomly like that.
1. It is possible that the image of the Sage is when he had already suppressed the Ten Tails. The panel before that did show that Naruto had chakra of all the other beasts inside of him, which could be a parallel for the Sage having the Ten Tails inside of himself.
2. Sakura's healing abilities are very good but not on the level of Tsunade's. Tsunade healed herself with mitotic regen when she and Ay were transported. Ay just withstood it like his father.
3. I think Obito just used the Rinnegan to control 6 other bodies. He might not have the chakra reserves for Rinnegan jutsu.
4. Obito isn't going to turn good. He has already thrown those possibilities aside with what he has said in this chapter.
5. You don't need to be an Uzumaki to be a Jinchuriki. They are just better hosts because they have a lot of chakra and can better suppress the beast. Any beast can be stored in an item if that item is a sealing weapon or a correct jutsu is used. The Mist's plan was to seal the beast in Rin, knowing it would eventually go on a rampage like with the Shukaku and Gaara, then have her return to the village to weaken the Leaf. Also, when a Jin dies, so does the beast, for a time anyway. The beast regenerates because it is made of chakra.
6.Yes Kakashi is a hypocrite. He feels to deeply for Obito because he blames himself for what has happened to him.
