Few questions related to chapter 629 (no noobs plz)

[Frikid]

Again my questions require critical thinking skills which a basic NB member usually lacks which could be seen in the bad response that this amazing chapter got in 629 discussion thread. This is the thread where i will ask all my question related to chapter 629 since there is something i found in this chapter to be "unclear" .
Don't bother posting if you have IQ below 100 .

1. Did so6p had rinnegan before he fought the juubi ?

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Here you can see the juubi saw the same "eyes" in naruto that he saw in so6p. And by eyes, i don't mean rinnegan, i mean the determination to protect your friends.

Anyway, I used to think all along that sage got rinnegan after he became juubi jinchuriki but, here , we can see that juubi fought so6p who possessed rinnegan prior to the battle, which is why so6p is shown with rinnegan.
What i am trying to say is, so6p should have been showed with normal eyes if he fought juubi without rinnegan.

If that is the case then it doesn't make sense at all, because rinnegan is supposed to be an evolved version of sharingan as stated by kabuto and clearly, sharingan orginated from the juubi.

2. Sakura's healing capacity is the best in the manga now? OR maybe a hyperbola or something like that?

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"in a flash..."
Which means either she didn't meant it and was just trying to cheer up naruto or her healing abilities are now on par with tsunade (the best healer) who could heal raikage and herself too quickly as they travelled with light speed in the battlefield which could destroy their body(refer to the manga chapter when madara was revived and gokages were heading to battlefield if you don't remember) .

3. Obito cannot use rinnegan abilities like nagato ?

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Obito admits kakashi could have killed him in certain situations , but he is forgetting he possess a mutha f*ing rinnegan which can absorb ninjutsu !
this only leads to one conclusion, obito is fodder at using rinnegan? Or he cannot use it at all ?

4. Would obito get TNJ'd ?

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^ this page makes me think he wont and kakashi is just being an idiot trying to convince obito to be on good side. Kakashi should know obito have went far too down on path of hatred and done way too much crimes and his end result is death.

5. Why rin was chosen to be the bijju jinchuriki ??

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I mean , aren't uzumaki the perfect host for jinhcuriki ? Or being an uzumaki doesn't matter at all ?
What was the mist village thinking?
Trying to make a non-uzumaki a jinchuriki would most likely fail! Like what the hell, how does this make sense ? :sy:

Or wait wait wait...!
did they succeeded in making rin the jinchuriki of 3 tails which is why they were trying to unleash it on konoha ?
If that is the case, then why didn't the 3 tails break free and rampaged when its host died ???

this doesn't make any sense at all

6. Is kakashi a hypocrite ?

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Like seriously this was the worst thing happening in naruto manga :sy: !
Obito is a f**ing criminal , he did the most evil deeds than any other criminal in the world? BUT still kakashi is trying to bring obito back?
And then what about sasuke, his own student ?!!?!

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Kakashi was ready to kill sasuke his own student who haven't done 100000x things less bad than obito , yet he is trying to protect obito ?
Like seriously WTF ??? :sy:

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Edit :
thanks guy i just wanted to see other people's opinion on this which would help me come to conclusion.
Looks like the only way to know about the answers is to wait for the later manga chapters.

 

[SO6PSenjuUchiha]

kakashi feels guilty that his main reason for not landing finishing blows when he had all the chances he did

 

[pandu]

I don't think that is what the first panel meant.Naruto's resolve reminded the juubi of the sage who held him captive for so many years.I'm just speculating tho
About rin being the 3 tails jin......that was random from kishi :|
And as I proceeded further,I realized that this is one of the worst chapters this year U_U

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Sweety, the SAGE used his priestly tools to defeat the juubi and got the eyes after :I its not all hard, even the third raikage beated the gyuki with a tool of the sage,

Hashirama and Tsunade"s healing skills surpasses Sakura.

RIN was the ideal choice in a sense because she had strong connection to konoha and was a part of minato"s team, heh people hated minato's rep long time ago also she was controlled eariler, so she is easy prey. also has to do with her clan history which is unknown.

Love mah boy! :I love makes you go the distance! to save a soul

 

[Pongus322]

Though it says that Uzumaki make great Jinchuuriki, nowhere does it say they have to be. IE Gaara, Yugito Nii, Yagura, Roshi, Han, Utakata, Fuu, and Killer Bee. None of them are uzumaki but they are all jinchuuriki.

 

[YellowFang]

Obito's tolerating Rinnegan just to control the Mazou, he can't use it as a battle tool...

Kakashi is hiding something...
That's why he can't justify himself killing Obito...

In case of Sasuke, it's his duty to stop his student from going astray...

 

[xXFLAVORSXx]

I don't think that is what the first panel meant.Naruto's resolve reminded the juubi of the sage who held him captive for so many years.I'm just speculating tho
About rin being the 3 tails jin......that was random from kishi :|
And as I proceeded further,I realized that this is one of the worst chapters this year U_U

let me preface this by saying i really could care less if naruto is related to the sage or the reincarnation of the sage but could this also be some major foreshadowing of things to come because we know kishi loves his foreshadowing

 

[SO6PSenjuUchiha]

I don't think that is what the first panel meant.Naruto's resolve reminded the juubi of the sage who held him captive for so many years.I'm just speculating tho
About rin being the 3 tails jin......that was random from kishi :|
And as I proceeded further,I realized that this is one of the worst chapters this year U_U

id have to disagree
this is a pretty good chapter
1. we find out why rin was killed (explanation made sense)
2. we found out obito is not doing all this for rin and kakashi
3. we find out obito will not be tnj

as for op thats a good guess but who knows if the juubi is thinking of the sage after or before the sealing

 

[Etari]

We're going to need some explanation from Kishimoto himself, BR00.

 

[NarutoB]

Who said he was trying to bring Obito back to Konoha? :|

 

[Hell Autarch]

Well I didn't care about the rest but as far as the RIN part is concerned

Members of the Uzumaki clan are NOT the only ones who can become the Jinchuuriki of a specific Bijuu.
There has no Uzumaki Jinchuuriki other than the 3 Jinchuuriki of the Nine Tails thus your statement is invalid.

Besides, Kiri only wanted Rin to return to Konoha and unleash the Bijuu. They didn't care who they kidnapped unless he/she was important enough for Konoha to rescue them.

 

[hirashin]

1.The juubi sensed the combine chakra of most of the tailed beast,including rikoudu's lifeforce in Naruto.will or determination has Nothing to do with it...
2.Kishi probably Cited what he's doing to sakura as a character,so he's making improvements
3.He can't Use rinnegan effectively like how Nagato Uses it!
4.Obito is practically beging to be TNJ
5.Sanbi is quite weaker than kurama,and kurama's chakra was said to be Near Unlimitless
6.Far from it,kakashi aint an hypocrite,he's stalling so obito will get on there side...

 

[S A G E]

Tbh I only agree to number 4. I have different opinions on the others.

 

[MickNerks]

Again my questions require critical thinking skills which a basic NB member usually lacks which could be seen in the bad response that this amazing chapter got in 629 discussion thread. This is the thread where i will ask all my question related to chapter 629 since there is something i found in this chapter to be "unclear" .


1. Did so6p had rinnegan before he fought the juubi ?


2. Sakura's healing capacity is the best in the manga now? OR maybe a hyperbola or something like that?

3. Obito cannot use rinnegan abilities like nagato ?



5. Why rin was chosen to be the bijju jinchuriki ??

1. I always believed the sage had the rinnegan BEFORE he battled with juubi. You believed that the rinnegan could only be unlocked if you had the sharingan, but i believe when kabuto said that he was ONLY implying to uchiha.

Because the Uchiha and Hyuugs descended from the sage they would have the watered down version of the rinnegan. The sage had always possessed the rinnegan and whenn he had children they aquired a diferent doujutsu, most likely its possible that the sharingan has features of the juubi becuase it the sage had children while he was the juubi jinchuuriki then its possible their doujutsu aquire juubi features. Much like naruto aquired whiskers from kyuubi and Gaara aquired dark rings around eyes like shikaku.

I might have messed up my explaination alittle, as im still kinda tired right now. If you wish for me to go into it some more just let me know.




2. I think she was just trying to cheer naruto up. Being Positive.



3. I DONT believe obito can use the rinnegan abilities like nagato. My sole reason for believing this is because nagato only has ONE rinnegan. It just my opinion, but i believe you need both eyes to actually have all the abilities the rinnegan provides. Much like how you need both the sharingan in each eye to use all its abilities and susanoo.



5. I dont think it matters what clan your from for most the bijuu, as long as you have a huge chakra reserve. The uzumaki clan are the only ones who could become the kyuubi's host, because they have special chakra that helps them hold him.

 

[RobbyReject]

1)that will remain a mystery unless you refer to the 5-kage summit arc where they state he had two children uchiha and senju one inherited his bodily power (senju) and the other his ocular abilities (uchiha) so i would say he always had it (just connecting the dots) and that this eye is what gave him chance against the juubi

2)Sakura might've surpassed tsunade as tsunade said back before part one ended sakura possessed a "Natural" talent as a medic shinobi even better than shizune

3)No i don't think he can if he could've he would've already used it he is nowhere near the level of Nagato he has a few as he has pointed out he could use rinne tensei however he wouldnt sacrifice himself so madara could just end everything without them suffering (the allied shinobi force)

4)i honestly doubt obito will be swayed and that kakashi will have to kill obito or be killed by obito i can honestly say i have had a nagging suspicion a few important characters are not going home alive

5)in kakashi's story (gaiden if you like that name better) it was mentioned rin had a very special chakra i can only guess it must've been really similar to an uzumaki or just strong enough to supress it long enough to get into the village

6)yes kakashi is hell of a hypocrite yes but there are other reason's hes trying to do this to obito simply he blames himself for obito being evil as obito's first reason he gave to starting the war when we found out it was obito was simply kakashi let rin die so its likely he blames himself and can't bring himself to kill a friend who taught him so much after he was gone

anyway how was that for a Naruto base noob lol i've kept up with manga and anime of naruto since i saw the first episode on tooonami just because we are new here doesnt mean we are new to Naruto anyway your welcome if this helps

 

[KuroKaze]

1) i am confused as well...better read Sir derp obito's So6p related threads...

2)sakura was just cheering naruto up....so as others by standing in front of full fledged juubi...i think this should be enough to explain what sakura was doing/thinking of doing...

3)If he could have he would have....till now we have only seen the "6 path of pain" jutsu as far as rinnegan dojutsus r concerned...so ya I strongly believe he can't use other jutsus...reason:dunno

4)The chances of obito getting Tnj'd got lowered due to today's chapter....no doubt about that....

5) a) Its no where mentioned that only uzumaki's r fit to be jinchuriki's....
konoha(senju) chose uzumaki coz they were renowned for having special chkra that suppresses bijuu's chakra...it doesn't mean that other
can't be....
b)The mist were planning on creating caos in konoha...so they just picked a random person whose fitness to be a jinchuriki was not even checked coz the main aim of the mist was not to create a perfect jinchuriki....
c)Now as per kushina and 4th raikage when a jinchuriki dies the bijuu reappears but not immediately....as per raikage's words...""killing naruto here would delay the revival of kyuubi"" see DELAY...so this is the reason the sambi didn't appear just after rin got killed....if u want i can post manga proofs....

6)No comment

 

[Danielgf04]

Kakashi was ready to kill Sasuke because he had YEARS to think about what would he do if he encountered him and he didn't want to come back!
In the other end, he only had a few hours after he realised Tobi was, indeed, Obito!


You forgot one question! Here:

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Where did Naruto get the Shukaku/Ichibi's (One-tail) chakra?

 

[Frikid]

1.The juubi sensed the combine chakra of most of the tailed beast,including rikoudu's lifeforce in Naruto.will or determination has Nothing to do with it...
2.Kishi probably Cited what he's doing to sakura as a character,so he's making improvements
3.He can't Use rinnegan effectively like how Nagato Uses it!
4.Obito is practically beging to be TNJ
5.Sanbi is quite weaker than kurama,and kurama's chakra was said to be Near Unlimitless
6.Far from it,kakashi aint an hypocrite,he's stalling so obito will get on there side...

1. is that so? then why did the bijju's chakra reminded him of so6p ? and you still didn't answered the question.
2. can't say for sure.
3. Obito was taught so6p techs and what not! Also he used some crazy mokuton techs right after obtaining hashi dna.
The way obito was hyped in the manga, it is a contradiction.

4. can't rely on your opinion after seeing your reply.
5. so anyone can become it's host? :sy:
6. kakashi aint a person like that. Also, he didn't killed obito on purpose, how would you explain that.

 

[NarutoB]

1. is that so? then why did the bijju's chakra reminded him of so6p ? and you still didn't answered the question.
2. can't say for sure.
3. Obito was taught so6p techs and what not! Also he used some crazy mokuton techs right after obtaining hashi dna.
The way obito was hyped in the manga, it is a contradiction.

4. can't rely on your opinion after seeing your reply.
5. so anyone can become it's host? :sy:
6. kakashi aint a person like that. Also, he didn't killed obito on purpose, how would you explain that.

You do know that most Jinchuriki aren't Uzumaki's right?

Only Naruto, Kushina, and Mito were

 

[MickNerks]

Kakashi was ready to kill Sasuke because he had YEARS to think about what would he do if he encountered him and he didn't want to come back!
In the other end, he only had a few hours after he realised Tobi was, indeed, Obito!


You forgot one question! Here:

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Where did Naruto get the Shukaku/Ichibi's (One-tail) chakra?

I also had that question. Im assuming that one of the other bijuu's passed it on to Naruto.