[Discussion] feats wise sasuke faster than naruto and minato

[flyboyissac]

Seems someone don't understand sasuke replaces himself with his sword stated by madara

 

[blood hound]

all your arguments have already been countered in the thread at some point.. so i dont feel the need to pull up the points which u have stated already.. i will say however.. Bare in mind that Madara knows how FTG works due to tobirama but Sasuke has a brand new ability no one has seen so of course Madara is going to be puzzled as he is seeing it for the first time and is figuring out how it works

Did you get that idea "given that it's a new technique madara is going to be puzzled and won't be able to conter as for FTG which he does know and already countered" from me

 

[King Of Pop]

all your arguments have already been countered in the thread at some point.. so i dont feel the need to pull up the points which u have stated already.. i will say however.. Bare in mind that Madara knows how FTG works due to tobirama but Sasuke has a brand new ability no one has seen so of course Madara is going to be puzzled as he is seeing it for the first time and is figuring out how it works

Knowing about something doesn't guarantee counter,you hav to stil be fast enough to dodge and react to it. Minato and tobirama failiing to hit madara was not because madara knew about it but because they were not fast enough, ftg can merely get u so far, u have to also be quick to strike the opponent, even if u utilize the jutsu if your quick enough to strike the opponent then you wil fail as minato and tobirama aginst madara showed. And its not the fact that madara didn't know abt sasukes ability its the fact that he couldn't track. Even if you discard that, you can't discard the other fact that he couldn't react to sasuke blitz after the latter had caught up with him uisng impressive foot speed

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Sasuke is faster

 

[DaileyM]

Hmpf, Don't think so.

 

[blood hound]

first and foremost naruto was able to beat the crap out of madara because madara was nearly killed by guy which is proven and evident to that that naruto later on in his senjutsu cloak tried to attack madara and failed misrably while sasuke when he attacked madara madara had no time to react and was cut in half

as for you're 4 points ay isn;t faster than juubi madara and even against obito ( ten tail form) he got his arm sliced as well where the same thing that happened with juubi jin madara the man that sasuke was able to catch up on and slice in half maybe minato's speed ftg >= sasuke but over all speed sasuke has the advantage from what we have seen from him in the latest chapter feats against ten tails madara + the tree > all you're ay feats



that's what am trying to say thanks for the read mate

First and foremost my dear friend........ If you re-read that chapter you will see that madara him self stated "is it be cause I am injured that this has happened to me.... No... It's because he has gotten better" indicating that Naruto is faster and stronger. This should be included in a two way street, you are saying that because madara stated sasuke is fast, it means that sasuke is incredibly fast to a point where madara can't block...... Bais that is complete Bais.

Secondly my dear friend when Minato dodged Ay's full speed and strength from one center meter away that is a incredible feat..... It's as if dodging a bullet. Also Minato losing an arm to obito was careless of "Him" and when he lost his arm to Madara which I had already answerd in my previous big quote lol.... It would have been completely rediculoues if madara didnt see that coming blocked it given that he knows about FTg and how it works an that he has (Senji DNA, ten tailed beast, sharingun, an the renningun)...... I would like to ask a question..... If the situation was reversed and the new powerup was FTG (Keep in mind this would be the first time anyone has seen FTG) wouldn't it have done/caused the same effects/damage to madara... If not more :/?

 

[blood hound]

Oh yeah I would like to apologize for the spelling and wordings.... I am using my phone and at times it just F**ks up

 

[cafe123]

Agree 100% with everything, Sasuke at this point is the fastest Shinobi

 

[Cael]

I think its too soon to be judging the speed of sasuke, he is fast, that's manga fact, but then how can one just assume he is the fastest, I mean in the same chapter 674, we saw naruto on the floor and then in an instant in the air attacking madara, that's fast also.

Most of the things you mention as proof that he is fast, is not determined yet, you don't really know what sasuke rinnegan is really doing.

And as proof of that, I present to you this page

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are you trying to tell me that sasuke drag naruto and his jutsu to madara at the same time ? How did he get to madara, and how did he bring naruto with him. There is something more.

also the part of the sword piercing madara, are you sure that it was speed that was used to pierce madara with the sword

and not to mention this

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it seems madara has figured out something that we don't and its that there is a range to whatever sasuke rinnegan is capable of doing, that doesn't sound like speed.

 

[flyingpigwaffle]

First and foremost my dear friend........ If you re-read that chapter you will see that madara him self stated "is it be cause I am injured that this has happened to me.... No... It's because he has gotten better" indicating that Naruto is farser and stronger. This should be include a two way street, you are saying that because madara stated sasuke is fast, it means that sasuke is incredibly fast to a point where madara can't block...... Bais that is complete Bais.

Secondly my dear friend when Minato dodged Ay's full speed and strength from one center meter away that is a incredible feat..... It's as if dodging a bullet. Also Minato losing an arm to obito was careless of "Him" and when he lost his arm to Madara which I har already answers in my previous big quote lol.... It would have been completely rediculoues if madara didnt see that coming blocked it given that he knows about FTg and how it works an that he has (Senji DNA, ten tailed beast, sharingun, an the renningun)...... I would like to ask a question..... If the situation was reversed and the new powerup was FTG (Keep in mind this would be te first te anyone has seen FTG) wouldn't it have done/caused the same effects/damage to madara... If not more :/?

Dont reply
Just let it die
Fanboys dont listen
They only deny

 

[damon hunt]

First and foremost my dear friend........ If you re-read that chapter you will see that madara him self stated "is it be cause I am injured that this has happened to me.... No... It's because he has gotten better" indicating that Naruto is farser and stronger. This should be include a two way street, you are saying that because madara stated sasuke is fast, it means that sasuke is incredibly fast to a point where madara can't block...... Bais that is complete Bais.

Secondly my dear friend when Minato dodged Ay's full speed and strength from one center meter away that is a incredible feat..... It's as if dodging a bullet. Also Minato losing an arm to obito was careless of "Him" and when he lost his arm to Madara which I har already answers in my previous big quote lol.... It would have been completely rediculoues if madara didnt see that coming blocked it given that he knows about FTg and how it works an that he has (Senji DNA, ten tailed beast, sharingun, an the renningun)...... I would like to ask a question..... If the situation was reversed and the new powerup was FTG (Keep in mind this would be te first te anyone has seen FTG) wouldn't it have done/caused the same effects/damage to madara... If not more :/?

but mate that is the case sasuke caught up to madara and cut him in half madara saw sasuke coming at the last second but couldn't counter or block him where as when naruto attacked powered with his senjutsu cloak madara blocked him just fine as seen in my op


as for minato he used when he dodged ay's punch he used ftg thats nearly how fast juubi jins are since in both cases they obito and madara reacted to it that is like getting from point A to B in a split second but when you get to point B ( madara) he cant react because his striking speed is too slow and thats how sasuke is faster than minato since he was able to land a hit on madara where as minato failed when it comes to speed like getting from point A to point B sasuke =< minato over all speed (striking and foot speed) its clear from the last chapter we saw that its sasuke > minato

 

[Shinato]

I made a separate thread about this, showing my point. If you're interested, take a look:

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[damon hunt]

I made a separate thread about this, showing my point. If you're interested, take a look:

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thanks mate i will

 

[PlanetaryDevastation]

I can count on my hand how man objective and/or non troll posts there are in this thread. While OP did put a good bit of effort with decent evidence, the most recent chapter's ambiguity prevents any real comparison between anybody, rendering this thread somewhat useless until someone bumps it in a chapter of two.

 

[Bieber]

Not reading all of this bullshit, so my bad if somebody already posted this.

Sasuke's STRIKING speed is faster than Minatos'. You can't be faster than instant and that is what FTG grants you. As for Naruto, idc.

 

[Shinato]

I can count on my hand how man objective and/or non troll posts there are in this thread. While OP did put a good bit of effort with decent evidence, the most recent chapter's ambiguity prevents any real comparison between anybody, rendering this thread somewhat useless until someone bumps it in a chapter of two.

But we have enough information regarding all of the fastest characters when they're fighting each other to at least give a half way accurate analysis on their speed levels.

 

[PlanetaryDevastation]

But we have enough information regarding all of the fastest characters when they're fighting each other to at least give a half way accurate analysis on their speed levels.

That is true, but like I said, if Kishi makes it to where Sasuke can actively somehow get to Kamui dimension in front of Madara and block the rod, then we will know without a doubt he has a terribly OP version of the FTG

 

[Shinato]

That is true, but like I said, if Kishi makes it to where Sasuke can actively somehow get to Kamui dimension in front of Madara and block the rod, then we will know without a doubt he has a terribly OP version of the FTG

Well, Sasuke already have a stronger version of the FTG. His version doesn't have the drawback which Minato's FTG has.

 

[blood hound]

but mate that is the case sasuke caught up to madara and cut him in half madara saw sasuke coming at the last second but couldn't counter or block him where as when naruto attacked powered with his senjutsu cloak madara blocked him just fine as seen in my op


as for minato he used when he dodged ay's punch he used ftg thats nearly how fast juubi jins are since in both cases they obito and madara reacted to it that is like getting from point A to B in a split second but when you get to point B ( madara) he cant react because his striking speed is too slow and thats how sasuke is faster than minato since he was able to land a hit on madara where as minato failed when it comes to speed like getting from point A to point B sasuke =< minato over all speed (striking and foot speed) its clear from the last chapter we saw that its sasuke > minato

The first time Naruto attacked madara, without the cloak, he nearly killed him.... With a single swift move, that's when madara sated that quote where Naruto has gotten stronger. It was after that attack Naruto used magma infused Rasangun. Also when Naruto was in cloak form not only was he fight madara but also the power Limbo (which hasn't really been explained).

I get what you are trying to say about FTG, however it doesn't seem like you are getting what I am trying to say........ Minato's reaction speed far surpasses that of sasuke or any other character within Naruto give that short list that I have given in the previous page (which I added 2 more by the way). Also given that madara knows how FTG works GE should/would be able to counter it do you say. As for sasuke, madara has no idea what that power is/was therefore he can't counter act..... But what you don't seem to realize is that sasuke had to use this new power to close the gap between him and madara then proceed by cutting madara in half. The question would be asked again "if sasuke's new power up was FTG (which would e shown for the first time and unknown to anyone) wouldn't it have caused the same effect/damage if not more???

 

[xxSAGExx]

hello first and for most this thread is backed up by manga scans it contains no bs so make sure you're jimmies don't get rustled

first off minato i am not talking about him using ftg i am talking about his speed the speed he used against juubi madara that backfired at him :

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madara was able to react to minato just fine and countered him


now you(naruto fanboy) might say ohh but dude naruto was able to keep up with madara in his base form .. uhhh yeah no the reason he kept up with him is because of he was nearly killed by guy which is stated by madara himself :

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and naruto literally attacked him 3 pages after this which is no time for him to recover and madara after absorbing the tree and recovering was able to block naruto's attack just fine when naruto was in his sinjutsu cloak :

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in sasuke's case he was able to first : evade madara's lightening attack where as naruto just blocked it because he had no time to get out of its way

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second time madara tried attacking sasuke and taking his rennigan what happened ? sasuke was too fast and madara ended up taking a sword through him

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and the third time madara even fled and sasuke was able to catch up to him and slice him in half madara literally had no time to block or counter sasuke's attack like he did with minato or naruto because sasuke was too fast

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so there you have it its proven by feats and manga scans that sasuke is the fastesteven if that's the ability of his rennigan the fact of the matter is he is the fastes between the trio if you disagree that show me scans don't feed me bs like oh its plot or kishi wanted to sasuke too show off his techs or the best one naruto is the name of the manga lel thanks and hope you enjoyed the read.

You're comparing a Edo Minato to Madara, it's know that Edo's are weaker than when they're alive; we see a freshly revived Madara move faster than he ever did as an edo along with Hashirama saying Madara has his old powers back

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. You said Naruto blocked because he didn't have time to move, that is incorrect; he blocked because he knew he could block it, we seen a KM Naruto evade A's fist inches from his face and the jutsu Madara used was lightning just like A's lightning armor.

Naruto's KM speed was compared to Minato's speed 2x (by Yamato/Bee and Tsunade/A/Bee) but was said to not handle it as well as Minato as stated by Yamato since he was still new to the power

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. This is alive Minato Naruto is compared too and in BM he was faster and again compared to Minato

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but again, this power is new to Naruto so he only used his speed once more in BM when he saved Kakashi from Obito.

We have yet to see Naruto's speed, it should be faster than his BM since he have the Bijuus chakra plus the Sage's but since he doesn't I will place Sasuke above him since Sasuke can use his speed better than Naruto currently but put Minato over both since SM would further increase his base speed which is higher than even Tobirama (Tobirama said so) who was known as the fastest ninja as stated by Madara.

Minato>Sasuke in range, but Sasuke>Minato in the speed of his technique. Sasuke was even able to cut Madara in half starting from the same distance as when Minato tried to Rasengan Madara.

In other words
Madara reacted perfectly fine to Minato, but couldn't to Sasuke
Feats don't lie Sasuke is the fastest shinobi

Well you have to account the fact that Minato is an Edo Tensei which means he's not at full power compared to when he's alive. We see a freshly revived Madara blitz SM Naruto and Sai, showing more speed than Edo Madara and Hashirama said Madara has his old power back. Same with Tobirama, Madara said the brothers can't reach their full powers

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and Tobirama said the Edo Kage's were almost at their full powers but not there. I still place Minato as the fastest person when Alive.