[Theory] [FEAR] Uchiha Tablet: The Art of Forgery

[FearxDeath]

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Short yet sweet, in this thread I am going to discuss my take on the Uchiha Tablet left by the Sage. What its purpose why, and how it is being used manipulate others.

Introduction​

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The Idea raised was this:

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Not to mention the whole tablet thing is sketchy as hell. Why would the sage write down this history so that only the Uchiha can decipher it when he chose his younger son as his successor? Seems more likely the elder son wrote it or there's something more about the tablet we don't understand...

This is something that really did seem weird to me, the Idea of Madara getting the EoTM plan from the tablet was something that had occured to me and I made a thread about it before. [

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But hindsight is always 20/20, and it just doesnt seem right, so this is my 2nd take on the mystery behind the Uchiha Tablet

Blatent Forgery​

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Lets start here:

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Itachi says that Sasuke should go read the Uchiha Monument and that upon doing so he will learn Secrets of the Sharingan on how to attain the Mangekyo.

But we also know that:

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Madara and his brother were the first ones to ever gain the Mangekyo... Which is questionable because the clan existed a LONG time prior to them coming around. So then why if the secret to getting the Mangekyo is written on the Tablet the entire time why would it have taken so long for the Mangekyo to come around?

Perhaps it is because the Secret wasnt on the Tablet the entire time, but only got there after Madara put it there.

Conclusion​

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And so a can of worms have been opened. If we are right to assume that Madara could have altered the Tablet then everything stated in the Tablet becomes questionable. I say all that to say this:

I believe that the Tablet the Sage left the Elder brother was a brief biography of his existence, perhaps pertaining to how his mother kaguya tried to use her power as a weapon [

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] perhaps even trying to force peace on the world much like the Elder Brother had planned on doing. The Tablet was meant to show the Elder Brother the error of his ways.

The Elder brother accepted that the Sage chose the Younger brothers way of peace but still disagreed. Knowing that nothing could be done at this point he added a part to the Tablet detailing how he didnt think the Senju's way could attain true peace and how he believed that using the Juubi's Chakra to place the world under a genjutsu would be the best way to gain peace.

I also believe that other Uchiha's most likely added to the monument over time, making it a kind of Journal pointing out notable points in Uchiha history and giving crucial information of the Clan.

What do you guys think?


Here is a Qoute from Floydical:

Moreover, the tablet apparently explains the progression of the eye technique from regular sharingan to Rinnegan. If the sage only had the Rinnegan, how the heck did he now the devolved stages that would result and how to re-progress them to Rinnegan?

Its hard to believe that Kishi would have Madara alter the contents of the tablet, but the sage solely writing it has not made sense for a long time, its a form of plot hole really.

UPDATE #1​

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This is actually something really weird I found out, in part 1 we see this:

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So here we see Itachi telling Sasuke how to get to the Secret Meeting place where the Tablet is and he gets there fairly easily. But later in the manga all of a sudden we have this:

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Now there is a giant stone with a Sharingan on it? Did Sasuke or Itachi come by and put this here so other people that dont have Sharingans and cant read the Tablet cant get to it... And if they do have a Sharingan and can read the Tablet then doesnt that mean that they can just open the door like Sasuke did?

UPDATE #2​

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Alot of people are bringing up the fact that The Naka Shrine was destroyed by Pain or that there were multiple entrances or that someone placed the stone their during a rebuild. I will point out a few things:

1) The Uchiha Village was built on the outskirts of Konoha, this is one of the reasons Konoha came to distrust them. I dont find it unlikely that Pain destroyed it, but even if he did, how did the stone get their.

2) The stone made it to where only a person with a Sharingan could enter the room. But on top of which only a person with a Sharingan can read the tablet. So we have 2 things:

A) Someone without a Sharingan wouldnt place the lock making it to where only someone WITH a sharingan could get in because they would be locking themselves out.

B) A Person with a Sharingan would have a reason to place the lock their because someone without the Sharingan couldnt read the tablet and thus would have no interest in it and someone who could read it ,IE has a sharingan, could easily get into the room.

Thus we are left with a catch 22 where there is no reason to lock the room no matter how you look at it.

3) If there are multiple entrances to this Room then why take the time out to create a huge stone lock sealing the secret room away if there is a secret entrance under a freaking mat that a child could get through... The "Sharingan" who many claim to be able to see damn near anything doesnt even notice a secret entrance to a room so secret they lock it?

All I am saying is that its weird...

Enjoy the Read!​

 

[The Sach]

First of all I kinda agree on few points that you put forth, and yes I can definitely see a possibility of uchiha tablet being updated, but frankly I am not getting to which direction you want to point?
Do you want to say that Madara updated Uchiha tablet or are you think entire Uchiha clan people updated Uchiha tablet from time to time, because I don't see you putting enough of evidence to prove the second case, which according to me you could have addressed a in better manner.Anyways good thought.

 

[Mr Hiru]

You need to fix the link to some images.

OT: Excellent thought.

 

[bdm]

it was an amazing read bro.. now i want to clarify your doubt about the different looks you are talking about.

1.in part 2 konoha was destroyed by pain you remember???so as the uchia and other traditional temples must have been destroyed .may be after that to restore the old culture it was replaced/rebuilted.(hokage order)

2.it may be inside of the uchia temple which had not shown to us in part one.

 

[Mr Hiru]

it was an amazing read bro.. now i want to clarify your doubt about the different looks you are talking about.

1.in part 2 konoha was destroyed by pain you remember???so as the uchia and other traditional temples must have been destroyed .may be after that to restore the old culture it was replaced/rebuilted.(hokage order)

2.it may be inside of the uchia temple which had not shown to us in part one.

I thought that temple was outside Konoha.

 

[Reraru]

Nice. Dattebayo!

 

[Floydical]

Moreover, the tablet apparently explains the progression of the eye technique from regular sharingan to Rinnegan. If the sage only had the Rinnegan, how the heck did he now the devolved stages that would result and how to re-progress them to Rinnegan?

Its hard to believe that Kishi would have Madara alter the contents of the tablet, but the sage solely writing it has not made sense for a long time, its a form of plot hole really.

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Lol. What about this.

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The Uchiha tablet existed prior to Madara and the methods to interpret are not easily come by but there is definetly manipulation at work. My thought is that it contains a warning of who the true antagonist is and the antagonist knows it.

 

[Sarahmint]

That was an interesting read, however I think the tatami mat becoming a stone was just a retcon.

Also, the reason it was so damaged was because of the Pain arc where the village was decimated and no one cared to restore the Uchiha monument. Says a lot about how the village treated the Uchiha.

 

[kageking]

The tatami mat didn't become a stone, the stone we see is the entrance to the main hall where the uchiha tablet is, below the tatami mat.
Interesting ideas though.

 

[adeshina365]

I also believe that other Uchiha's most likely added to the monument over time, making it a kind of Journal pointing out notable points in Uchiha history and giving crucial information of the Clan.

I stated something similar to this in my thread "The Story of the Perfect Susanoo and its Relation to Sasuke's Development". How else could Uchiha's have known the names of the Mangekyou abilities?

 

[the last uchiha]

i think the tablet is the roseta stone of narutoverse. possibly 4 different interpretations on the first line
ie. renningan:the sage was the son of kagyua and he stopped the god tree and saved the world
ems sharingan:the sage had a fight with 10tails and when he sealed the beast he aquired the renningan and had a son (elder son)
ms. sharingan: a man sealed a beast within himself annd created the 9 tailed beasts
sharingan: uchiha can control tailed beast .

if you get what i mean

 

[Mr Hiru]

I stated something similar to this in my thread "The Story of the Perfect Susanoo and its Relation to Sasuke's Development". How else could Uchiha's have known the names of the Mangekyou abilities?

Point taken. This is indeed a big question... but how did Kakashi know about the 'Kamui'? D:

 

[FearxDeath]

First of all I kinda agree on few points that you put forth, and yes I can definitely see a possibility of uchiha tablet being updated, but frankly I am not getting to which direction you want to point?
Do you want to say that Madara updated Uchiha tablet or are you think entire Uchiha clan people updated Uchiha tablet from time to time, because I don't see you putting enough of evidence to prove the second case, which according to me you could have addressed a in better manner.Anyways good thought.

I believe that Multiple Uchiha, ones with access to the Tablet, added things to it. The Tablet is like a Journal highlighting the history of the Uchiha and Key events or knowledge. I believe some other Uchiha's probably added to it with notable ones being the Elder Son and Madara. I evidence for the 2nd point is implied as it seems to convinient to believe that although other Uchiha had access to the stone only the Elder Son (The very First Uchiha) and Madara (One of the last Uchiha) were the only ones to add anything between the hundreds of years between them.

Moreover, the tablet apparently explains the progression of the eye technique from regular sharingan to Rinnegan. If the sage only had the Rinnegan, how the heck did he now the devolved stages that would result and how to re-progress them to Rinnegan?

Its hard to believe that Kishi would have Madara alter the contents of the tablet, but the sage solely writing it has not made sense for a long time, its a form of plot hole really.

I doubt it is a plot hole, it doesnt seem too far fetched that someone could alter the tablet. Its not like its protected or something.

Lol. What about this.

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The Uchiha tablet existed prior to Madara and the methods to interpret are not easily come by but there is definetly manipulation at work. My thought is that it contains a warning of who the true antagonist is and the antagonist knows it.

Google Arashi Uzumaki.

The tatami mat didn't become a stone, the stone we see is the entrance to the main hall where the uchiha tablet is, below the tatami mat.
Interesting ideas though.

How did young Sasuke get there without a Sharingan then?

I stated something similar to this in my thread "The Story of the Perfect Susanoo and its Relation to Sasuke's Development". How else could Uchiha's have known the names of the Mangekyou abilities?

The abilities of the MS abilities along with their names seem to be passed down from Father to Son or just invented upon conception.

i think the tablet is the roseta stone of narutoverse. possibly 4 different interpretations on the first line
ie. renningan:the sage was the son of kagyua and he stopped the god tree and saved the world
ems sharingan:the sage had a fight with 10tails and when he sealed the beast he aquired the renningan and had a son (elder son)
ms. sharingan: a man sealed a beast within himself annd created the 9 tailed beasts
sharingan: uchiha can control tailed beast .

if you get what i mean

But the method to interpret what is written seems to depend on how close the readers eyes are to the writer.

 

[Mr Hiru]

The abilities of the MS abilities along with their names seem to be passed down from Father to Son or just invented upon conception.

Kakashi knew about the Kamui's ability, along with Obito, when they didn't had any kind of contact. I'm very curious about this question.

 

[FearxDeath]

Kakashi knew about the Kamui's ability, along with Obito, when they didn't had any kind of contact. I'm very curious about this question.

Im not sure what you mean by "Knew about the Kamui's abilities", can you elaborate?

 

[Mr Hiru]

Im not sure what you mean by "Knew about the Kamui's abilities", can you elaborate?

I'm talking about the name of the ability. Kakashi knew about the name of this ability before knowing that Obito was alive.

 

[FearxDeath]

I'm talking about the name of the ability. Kakashi knew about the name of this ability before knowing that Obito was alive.

@_@ It seems Plot no Jutsu is a cruel mistress indeed

 

[Mr Hiru]

@_@ It seems Plot no Jutsu is a cruel mistress indeed

Indeed. I really don't know how did he know about it.

 

[FearxDeath]

Indeed. I really don't know how did he know about it.

Neither do I. The only thing I could think of is that Obito pre-named the technique when he was young. Perhaps a name he would give his Sharingan or a special technique he was developing. That would also explain why although each individual eye possess's a different technique (Technically speaking) they are both named Kamui. When one would expect them to both have different names.


The name itself isnt specific to teleportation or anything like that as Kamui traslates to "Word of God".