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I stumbled onto this last night when I was thinking about Spiral Zetsu and how he can manipulate all 5 Elements. I found it unlikely that the Budha itself was the source of the Jutsu and felt like assuming he had a Rinnegan was an easy cope out. And although the outcome did answer my question it did reveal a secret behind the Zetsu that I dont think anyone has realized yet.
Debunked
Indeed....^ this is true. He also created them to create the barrier to seal in the Alliance.
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It seems that my thread may have been disproven. I could argue that since Black Zetsu was hiding inside of Obito's body that would allow him access to that tech but at this point that would be incredibly unlikely.
Even with that said I still maintain that Spiral Zetsu and Obito are intrinsically linked. At the very least I could say that I was wrong about the "Black Rod".. Perhaps the Secret Zetsu is really Madara's Zetsu, who knows.
Beginnings
It starts Here:
Here the Zetsu's tell us where they come from, The Gedo... But the Question is Why.. Why does the Gedo Create the Zetsu? And it was at this time that it struck me that there are only 3 Zetsu's, but why would that be important?
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Here the Zetsu's tell us where they come from, The Gedo... But the Question is Why.. Why does the Gedo Create the Zetsu? And it was at this time that it struck me that there are only 3 Zetsu's, but why would that be important?
Spiral Zetsu
If you pay close attention to the Manga you can see exactly when Spiral Zetsu is created by the Gedo:
Now at that time it is already fully formed but is still attached to the Gedo. This tells us that it began forming a while ago, but not too long ago. And then it happens to come to life sometime after Obito has gained consciousness:
I think you all know where I am going with this. Spiral Zetsu is Gedo's response to being connected to Obito Uchiha. And thus they are linked even if they do not know it:
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Now at that time it is already fully formed but is still attached to the Gedo. This tells us that it began forming a while ago, but not too long ago. And then it happens to come to life sometime after Obito has gained consciousness:
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I think you all know where I am going with this. Spiral Zetsu is Gedo's response to being connected to Obito Uchiha. And thus they are linked even if they do not know it:
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Black Zetsu
I say Black Zetsu above because that is what most people assume it would be. But it is actually something else.
The Black Rod, The Gedo created this in response to Madara being connected to it.
After the creation of the Black Rod Madara realized what it was and how it could be manipulated. A very important thing to notice in the scan above is that when Madara created Black Zetsu the Black Rod grew longer. I believe that Madara was correct when he said the Black Rod was the physical Manifestation of his Will, and thus every time he expresses his Will the Black Rod grows in reaction to it.
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The Black Rod, The Gedo created this in response to Madara being connected to it.
After the creation of the Black Rod Madara realized what it was and how it could be manipulated. A very important thing to notice in the scan above is that when Madara created Black Zetsu the Black Rod grew longer. I believe that Madara was correct when he said the Black Rod was the physical Manifestation of his Will, and thus every time he expresses his Will the Black Rod grows in reaction to it.
White Zetsu
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The Gedo created this reaction to the Mindless Hashirama Clone being connected to it.
Why is the Gedo doing this?
Its pretty simple, the base purpose of the Gedo
"Here things dont go as you wish."
And that is the answer, The Gedo is answering the wish's of those connected to it. Lets think about it:
Obito:
Obito wanted to leave the Cave and Spiral Zetsu assisted him with that.
Mindless Hashirama Clone
Madara
The Real Question is Why... And to be honest I find it hard to answer this question. I dont really know what the Juubi's motives are. Hell I dont even know how it is doing this.
But the moment I do I will make a part 2 of this thread letting you guys know.
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"Here things dont go as you wish."
And that is the answer, The Gedo is answering the wish's of those connected to it. Lets think about it:
Obito:
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Obito wanted to leave the Cave and Spiral Zetsu assisted him with that.
Mindless Hashirama Clone
A Mindless Clone that is stuck in the wall would want to be able to move freely, express itself and be alive.
Madara
Forced to leave his village because no one would listen to his warnings of the empending doom of his Clan. And now he plans to force the world into a dream under his control. He was given a Black Rod that allows him to manifest and implant his will into anything and anyone.
The Real Question is Why... And to be honest I find it hard to answer this question. I dont really know what the Juubi's motives are. Hell I dont even know how it is doing this.
But the moment I do I will make a part 2 of this thread letting you guys know.
Secret Unknown Zetsu
With that said there is a Secret Zetsu that no one gives much attention:
But unlike Spiral Zetsu it hadnt been completed yet. Which means 2 things, there was someone connected to the Gedo sometime after Madara and the MHC and sometime before Obito. And secondly, they werent connected long enough for the Gedo to finish making a clone for them... But who could it have been?
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But unlike Spiral Zetsu it hadnt been completed yet. Which means 2 things, there was someone connected to the Gedo sometime after Madara and the MHC and sometime before Obito. And secondly, they werent connected long enough for the Gedo to finish making a clone for them... But who could it have been?
Conclusion
Each Zetsu repressents a person that was connected to the Gedo Mazou.
Madara - Black Rod/Zetsu
Mindless Hashirama Clone - White Zetsu
Obito - Spiral Zetsu
?????- Secret Zetsu
Madara - Black Rod/Zetsu
Mindless Hashirama Clone - White Zetsu
Obito - Spiral Zetsu
?????- Secret Zetsu
Update #1
The Real Question here is why are all the Zetsu following Madara's orders? Let me tell you why..
First note the difference between this scan and the next:
In the second picture there is a big black rod in the middle of the Mindless Hashirama Clones Chest...
Now look at this picture:
Madara has had his will implanted into each of the things Zetsu was cloned from, and thus when the Zetsu was created it was created with a portion of his will inside of it.
Even now Black Zetsu is controlling Obito. But if Minato and Kakashi manage to defeat him, could Spiral Zetsu possibly become a different person?
First note the difference between this scan and the next:
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In the second picture there is a big black rod in the middle of the Mindless Hashirama Clones Chest...
Now look at this picture:
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Madara has had his will implanted into each of the things Zetsu was cloned from, and thus when the Zetsu was created it was created with a portion of his will inside of it.
Even now Black Zetsu is controlling Obito. But if Minato and Kakashi manage to defeat him, could Spiral Zetsu possibly become a different person?
Enjoy the read!
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