[FEAR] Proof: Sasuke CANNOT use Tsukuyomi

[jorgelius]

i learned quite fast to just learn "conclusion" in your threads.. sorry if you had theory about this too and if you did copy-paste-it i like to see if it's solid

mangekyo sharingan first itachi awakened it and he do have tsukyomi and after theyr battle sasuke first awaken his own mangekyo which is very similar to itachi's "danzo quote: you have same eyes but how you perceive things are very different"

after that sasuke implanted itachi's eyes to himself right? if you take someone's eyes you take ocular power of them too, so sasuke do have tsukyomi for sure even if his genjutsu is "sharingan genjutsu" suited for taming he have itachi's jutsus too, that how ems works...

 

[Draxus]

Can't wait for all the databook thumpers & Sasuke fanboys to march in hear shouting the matra "You must have to master Ameratseru AND Tsukiyomi in order unlock Susano'O!!"

For the record I have found the theory that he has Blaze Release in his other eye and that one must unlock two different MS abilities to get Susano'O

Sasuke's Tsukyomi is weak as shit.

Tsukyomi + Amaterasu = Susanoo

whoops missed this one!

 

[FearxDeath]

i learned quite fast to just learn "conclusion" in your threads.. sorry if you had theory about this too and if you did copy-paste-it i like to see if it's solid

mangekyo sharingan first itachi awakened it and he do have tsukyomi and after theyr battle sasuke first awaken his own mangekyo which is very similar to itachi's "danzo quote: you have same eyes but how you perceive things are very different"

after that sasuke implanted itachi's eyes to himself right? if you take someone's eyes you take ocular power of them too, so sasuke do have tsukyomi for sure even if his genjutsu is "sharingan genjutsu" suited for taming he have itachi's jutsus too, that how ems works...

The only problem with your logic is that it is never said in the manga, and the manga has had several chances to do so as they have spoken on the Sharingan several times, explaining its abilities, How madara got his, How Sasuke got his, etc... Not saying it isnt logical because if you had bothered to read my thread I do so this as well giving a scan that shows it, but since the manga never says this I cant be sure.

Just read it carefully and think on it. I tried to counter all the famous arguments for sasuke having tsukuyomi. It just dosen't make sense to me that a skilled shinobi like sasuke will fail to learn tsukuyomi.

I see, I sort of got your jist, I just didnt see you say you were debunking arguments, in that sense you could have been clearer. As in "Here is this argument", "Here is my counter". Rather it was more like "Oh ya, well look at this", and im like "What?". Idk x__x, you made some good points in it though

Can't wait for all the databook thumpers & Sasuke fanboys to march in hear shouting the matra "You must have to master Ameratseru AND Tsukiyomi in order unlock Susano'O!!"

For the record I have found the theory that he has Blaze Release in his other eye and that one must unlock two different MS abilities to get Susano'O

whoops missed this one!

You can always count on them to give a little chaos as soon as we find some order.. To be honest that was a viable idea back when the only 2 people with Sharingans was Itachi and Sasuke and we had no clue what Kamui was, but as we saw Madara;'s Susano that idea was pretty much dead to rights.

 

[abiolaa1]

This true, nice work bro!
A pair of ms = susanoe and the full power
Ems equals = the full of power of both ms,
It is normal for any uchiha to cast a genjustu with 3 dots, when they awake their ms, they can still cast genjustu a little different from their normal 3 dots, but it is not compulsory to be their special ms abilities.
Below is a link that will show details of the sharingan(mirror wheel eye) which most people are forgetting .
naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sharingan

 

[Ahmed1993]

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Then explain to me the black and white design in the background here.

Edit : Never mind , i read all of your post and you deserve a + rep.

 

[htmwall]

i learned quite fast to just learn "conclusion" in your threads.. sorry if you had theory about this too and if you did copy-paste-it i like to see if it's solid

mangekyo sharingan first itachi awakened it and he do have tsukyomi and after theyr battle sasuke first awaken his own mangekyo which is very similar to itachi's "danzo quote: you have same eyes but how you perceive things are very different"

after that sasuke implanted itachi's eyes to himself right? if you take someone's eyes you take ocular power of them too, so sasuke do have tsukyomi for sure even if his genjutsu is "sharingan genjutsu" suited for taming he have itachi's jutsus too, that how ems works...

not really,when any person(except brothers) implants the eye of a MS user he gets his abilities as a normal MS that will fade after using them too much(like kakashi and danzo having an uchiha's eye),but when a brother implants these eyes a new dojutsu awakens the Eternal MS, which has all of the previous powers of the user(sasuke not itachi's)without strain on the eyes and without the risk of blindness.