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As we all know Naruto's Clones being able to defeat the Kages have always been the #1 feat that people like to throw out when attempting to gauge Naruto's strenght. But I would like to shed a little light on this situation and see if this feat is as impressive as people make it out to be.
Edo Kages
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The reason why Naruto defeating the Edo Kages was so great was simply because of their raw strenght:
3rd Raikage - Inpenetrable defense with his lighting armor, unstoppable offense with his lighting jab.
Muu - Ability to split in 2, fly, and use dust release.
4th Kazekage - Ability to Control Gold dust much like Gaara controls sand, except for the fact that gold dust is ligher and thus faster, so it beats out sand.
3rd Mizukage - Jouki Boy, Astonishingly good genjutsu user.
In times of great peril and grief these men were able to climb to the top of the ladder and become the kages of their respective village. And since the Kages are, in most cases, the strongest ninja in the village, it is then safe to say that these men represented the best of their time. For them to be defeated is nothingless than a grand accomplishment, for them to be defeated by a single person... Not neccesarily.
In actuallity Naruto only defeated 2 Kages, The 3rd and Muu. And even then he had help from Gaara and Oonoki not to mention
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The person who defeated the other 2 Kage was non other than Gaara, except he needed no help at all, he defeated them all by himself. (Im not fanboying Gaara merely stating a fact.)
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But thats not all, lets analyse this a bit more and see where it takes us.
Edo'd Kages
Well lets see something here, does anyone remember this?
Yah Orochimaru used the Edo Tensie jutsu to summon the 1st and the 2nd during his fight with Hiruzen, but during that fight their is a very important fact that people should not overlook.
They were not brought back at their full strength during their fight with Hiruzen, and as Tobirama says they still arent, they are only "Almost" at their full power. Tobirama says Orochimaru did this by improving its acuracy, but Orochimaru lost his arms during his fight with Hiruzen, so when did he get a chance to improve the Jutsu's Accuracy?
He gained this knowledge from when he took his Chakra/Power back from Kabuto. Now before I move on to my next point I want to make a comparison between Tobirama and the other Edo Kage's. Which is that the Edo Kages werent chumps compared to Hashirama and Madara, they were formidable. Dont get me wrong Hashirama and Madara were still the strongest, but the other Kages werent chumps. Much like Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages but by no means does that mean that the other 4 were push overs. If we can assume that they were on par with Madara and Hashirama then we have to think they would at the very least be at Tobirama's level. And if that is the case a question is raised. Why didnt they break their restraints?
Tobirama says it right their, he should have been able to break the restraints, but since Orochimaru was increasing the power of the restraints with Hashirama's Cells it was able to overpower Tobirama.
But wait! If the only reason Tobirama couldnt break the restraints was because Orochimaru was using Hashirama Cells, and we know that Kabuto didnt have Hashirama Cells, then again why didnt the Edo Kage's break the restraints? Simple, they werent brought back at full power, much like the 1st and 2nd werent brought back at full power during their fight with Hiruzen.
Orochimaru had to weaken the 1st and 2nd powers just to control them, Kabuto on the other hand was controlling a handful of ninja's at the same time:
It only stands to reason that their overall power would be diminished substantially in order to keep them from resisting against the Edo's Order. And even with that some ninja still managed to contradict his orders.
So what we see here is that not only the Edo Kage's but all of Kabuto's Edo's were revived in weakened states to allow Kabuto to control them easier without risking them breaking their restraints. As for how much weaker I leave that to you guys to decide, but the fact of the matter is that they were not brought back at their full strenght. Else they would have been able to resist the restraints much like Danzo did, and much like Tobirama attempted to do.
Be sure you know that there is a big difference between resisting the restraints placed on one by the summoner and actually breaking the seal, which is what Madara did.
Breaking the Edo Tensie is as simple as using the seal to break the summoning contract, Tobirama and Hashirama chose not to do that when they were dealing with Orochimaru for their own reasons, perhaps they were acting out of good faith, but be sure to know that these are 2 different things. One is resisting the control of the summoner and the other is breaking the contract itself and thus cutting the link between the summoner and the summoned.
One thing I would like to point out is the sheer power of Danzo, the fact that he was able to resist against the Edo Tensei just despite the fact that he was summoned in a weakened state is a testament to how powerful a ninja he was.
In case you want to know what I think about Hanzo of the Salamander [
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Yah Orochimaru used the Edo Tensie jutsu to summon the 1st and the 2nd during his fight with Hiruzen, but during that fight their is a very important fact that people should not overlook.
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They were not brought back at their full strength during their fight with Hiruzen, and as Tobirama says they still arent, they are only "Almost" at their full power. Tobirama says Orochimaru did this by improving its acuracy, but Orochimaru lost his arms during his fight with Hiruzen, so when did he get a chance to improve the Jutsu's Accuracy?
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He gained this knowledge from when he took his Chakra/Power back from Kabuto. Now before I move on to my next point I want to make a comparison between Tobirama and the other Edo Kage's. Which is that the Edo Kages werent chumps compared to Hashirama and Madara, they were formidable. Dont get me wrong Hashirama and Madara were still the strongest, but the other Kages werent chumps. Much like Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages but by no means does that mean that the other 4 were push overs. If we can assume that they were on par with Madara and Hashirama then we have to think they would at the very least be at Tobirama's level. And if that is the case a question is raised. Why didnt they break their restraints?
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Tobirama says it right their, he should have been able to break the restraints, but since Orochimaru was increasing the power of the restraints with Hashirama's Cells it was able to overpower Tobirama.
But wait! If the only reason Tobirama couldnt break the restraints was because Orochimaru was using Hashirama Cells, and we know that Kabuto didnt have Hashirama Cells, then again why didnt the Edo Kage's break the restraints? Simple, they werent brought back at full power, much like the 1st and 2nd werent brought back at full power during their fight with Hiruzen.
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Orochimaru had to weaken the 1st and 2nd powers just to control them, Kabuto on the other hand was controlling a handful of ninja's at the same time:
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It only stands to reason that their overall power would be diminished substantially in order to keep them from resisting against the Edo's Order. And even with that some ninja still managed to contradict his orders.
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So what we see here is that not only the Edo Kage's but all of Kabuto's Edo's were revived in weakened states to allow Kabuto to control them easier without risking them breaking their restraints. As for how much weaker I leave that to you guys to decide, but the fact of the matter is that they were not brought back at their full strenght. Else they would have been able to resist the restraints much like Danzo did, and much like Tobirama attempted to do.
Be sure you know that there is a big difference between resisting the restraints placed on one by the summoner and actually breaking the seal, which is what Madara did.
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Breaking the Edo Tensie is as simple as using the seal to break the summoning contract, Tobirama and Hashirama chose not to do that when they were dealing with Orochimaru for their own reasons, perhaps they were acting out of good faith, but be sure to know that these are 2 different things. One is resisting the control of the summoner and the other is breaking the contract itself and thus cutting the link between the summoner and the summoned.
One thing I would like to point out is the sheer power of Danzo, the fact that he was able to resist against the Edo Tensei just despite the fact that he was summoned in a weakened state is a testament to how powerful a ninja he was.
In case you want to know what I think about Hanzo of the Salamander [
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]Conclusion
People should be wary when they try to throw out defeating an Edo as a feat, keep in mind that these Edo's were not brought back at their full power, and were probably brought back in a weaker stated than that which the 1st and 2nd were brought back in when they fought with Hiruzen. This was done so that Kabuto could control them without too much work.
Indeed, even with help I dont think it was an easy thing to do and with a Shadow Clone no less. I am not bashing Naruto, But the fact of the matter is that people blow it out of proportion when they claim that the Edo's were at full strength.
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