[FEAR] Analysis of Juubi's Eye: Controlled by Blessed Eyes

[FearxDeath]

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I have been coming up with a bunch of theories regarding the SO6P and the Juubi lately and I think this will be one of my more interesting peices, albeit short.

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New Evidence!!​

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In the spoiler I am going to leave you with new/concrete evidence that the Juubi was being controlled via the Rinnegan when summoned by Madara/Obito. And with this we see that during every instance the Juubi has been shown there has infact been a Rinnegan user in close proximity to him, my theory simply makes the assumption that said Rinnegan user may infact be controlling the Juubi:

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Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt control it with eyes alone.

I can bypass this problem by inserting one word into your statement above "Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt fully control it with eyes alone." Madara said controlling it would be trouble, which seems evident as alot of the Juubi's actions dont seem to have coincide with Madara wishes.

But here is one thing you graze over and this is case and point for my thread:

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He says "Soon it will be hard to control the juubi, use hashirama cells to strenghten the bond", so the question is prior to that. How were they controlling the Juubi

Now whether or not the Genjutsu should or should not have worn off prior to the cutting of the link is conjecture and semantics as none of us can say for certain how much control they have over the Juubi with and without said Link.

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Opening Statement​

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Question​

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How did the SO6P manage to defeat someone that powerful, even if he was as powerful as the lore implies how in the world does one defeat a monster with limitless chakra that creates and destroys planets on a whim.

How did the Sage get his Rinnegan?

If the Juubi has both a Rinnegan and a Sharingan, then why does the decendants only have the Sharingan, if they are infact influenced by the Juubi's Yin then wouldnt they have both his eyes?

In regards to the above theory, the theory following it is that teh Juubi gave the Sage his Rinnegan somehow, who then divided it between his sons, one having his eyes the other his body and when combined they form the Rinnegan. Said body has been related to the ability to use Wood Style, which is a similarity shared with the Juubi. And thus since the Juubi has said body and said Sharingan he must also have said Rinnegan which is what we see in the manga. It explains why the Juubi has the Rinnegan, it explains how when the Uchiha and Senju are put together they get the Rinnegan, but then how did the Sage get the body? Did he also inherit said body from the Juubi along with Rinnegan? I find that a little hard to swallow...

With no further adiue let me take you on a little trip through what I think happened.

Basic Theory​

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Let me give a disclaimer by saying I dont know whether the Sage got his Rinnegan before or after his fight with the Juubi, some argue that he couldnt have defeated the Juubi without it and others say that if he did have it then where did it come from, KKG's dont just pop up out of then air.

In this theory I am going to build on the Assumption that he managed to get his Rinnegan prior to fighting the Juubi, granted in some of my other theories I have argued the exact opposite thing.

For the record I personally believe the Sage was half Uzumaki and half Hyuga, he was born with a Byakugan which he managed to turn into a Rinnegan sometime before or after his fight with the Juubi, for this arguments sake I will assume it was before the fight. Links to prior thread could be found here, I reccomend you glance at it for understandings sake, and if you already seen it i recommend re-reading as it is highly likely I have edited or changed or added some things since then. There are pretty brief FYI [

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Elaboration of Theory​

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I am sure your thinking, well if he had the Rinnegan prior to fighting the Juubi... then WHY DOES THE JUUBI HAVE THE RINNEGAN, fool ya fool.

Well just take a look at this:

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Take note of what he says, "The tailed beasts are slaves to those with blessed eyes" now I am sure you already know where I am going with this but please, keep reading and humor me.

Observation of a Hypothesis​

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The main reason people think the Juubi has a Rinnegan is because well, we see that he has a Rinnegan. But something that should be taken note of is that whenever we have ever seen the Juubi, it is within around or when he is under the control of a person with a Rinnegan... GASP!!

Now here is something else I want you to look at:

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When Madara was controlling Kurama, guess what his eyes looked like? The Sharingan, Now take a look at this:

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Does it look like he is in a battle stance? And why does the Juubi look so peaceful? So... Tamed? Also look at this link[

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], Juubi going crazy when seeing the SO6P's Chakra. Now Kurama has been defeated before, one person to mention is hashirama, but there has only been one time where he has lost it, and that is when he gave Naruto all his chakra and teamed up with him for the soul purpose of killing Madara, the person who controlled him.

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Conclusion​

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I believe the SO6P put the Juubi under the same kind of genjutsu that Madara put Kurama under, albeit a stronger version, and while the Juubi was incapacitated he made himself its jinchuriki. That was how he was able to defeat the Juubi. HELL THATS WHAT MADARA IS DOING RIGHT NOW IN THE MANGA!!!

Far-fetched I know, but I think it was worth mentioning, and it does make some sense if you have an open mind about the situation.

This leads into the idea that the Juubi does, infact, not have a Rinnegan but only appears to because he is under the control of someone with a Rinnegan [

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[yondaime4]

pretty wild, but it makes sense, how else could he take him down.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Nah, because Madara and obito dont have a sharingan/rinnegan with tomoes in their eyes, The JUUBI has that eye because he is progenitor of all things :I spiritual/physical energy, natural energy, the life force of the planet is in its every fiber of the Juubi's being

 

[Fountain]

So6p was a hyuga, He later became an uchiha and awoken his rinnegan after fighting the juubi, Later he casted a special jutsu on himself wich changed his physical appearance to a female and changed his name to tenten.

 

[FearxDeath]

Nah, because Madara and obito dont have a sharingan/rinnegan with tomoes in their eyes, The JUUBI has that eye because he is progenitor of all things :I spiritual/physical energy, natural energy, the life force of the planet is in its every fiber of the Juubi's being

Please understand that this statement "because Madara and obito dont have a sharingan/rinnegan with tomoes in their eyes", doesnt nothing to add or take away from my thread. Actually it does more to prove my point than it does to take away from it.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Please understand that this statement "because Madara and obito dont have a sharingan/rinnegan with tomoes in their eyes", doesnt nothing to add or take away from my thread. Actually it does more to prove my point than it does to take away from it.

Wow! hmm.. glad I could assist you :I

 

[FearxDeath]

So6p was a hyuga, He later became an uchiha and awoken his rinnegan after fighting the juubi, Later he casted a special jutsu on himself wich changed his physical appearance to a female and changed his name to tenten.

LOL, you had me going there for a second, oh btw

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TEN TEN SUCKS

 

[FearxDeath]

Wow! hmm.. glad I could assist you :I

Much obliged masked man

 

[AlphaScythian]

So who is controlling juubi with genjutsu right now?

 

[FearxDeath]

So who is controlling juubi with genjutsu right now?

Take a wild guess?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Take a wild guess?

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I mean here. Only in next pages obito and madara proceeded to control it and not with the eyes.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Good theory, and I definitely agree on the part about the Jūbi being the originátor of the Senju and Uchiha Powers

 

[rollin]

Obito said he was going to use the juubis chakra to boost his eyes to the ultimate level and reflect those eyes off the moon

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And it showed the juubis eye

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Rinnegan is not the last doujutsu

 

[FearxDeath]

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I mean here. Only in next pages obito and madara proceeded to control it and not with the eyes.

I have a side theory about that but I didnt want to post it as it was sort of unrefined, take a look at this link [

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], basically my theory original theory was that the Rikudo left some of his chakra and thus himself within the Juubi so that it would remain semi-controled if it was ever released. I decided to scrap that part as it was kind of out there and the whole madara and Obito controlling him would be easier for people to digest.

But in regards to the scan you posted you should remember that Obito/Madara had control of the Gedo Prior to it trasnforming, this control was because? There Rinnegans ofcourse, and thus passed on to the Juubi. Now I know that there is a scan that showns the Gedo without the blindfold on and its eyes dont look like rinnegans, but I would venture to say that in that instances the control of the Rinnegan would have manifested in a different way, as in that form it was not a tailed beast and only tailed beasts are shown to have altered eyes when being controlled, much like yagura did not have altered eyes although he was infact being manipulated.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt control it with eyes alone.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt control it with eyes alone.

Or it could be simply case that Madara and Obito controlled Juubi via their eyes(Rinnengan) and via their body(Wood release)

It shouldn't be far fetched too much

So maybe they couldn't control Juubi only via Their Rinnengan while Not being Juubi jinchurki

But when do you become Juubi Jin then you don't need to control it via Body and eyes because control is automatic ?

maybe

What do you think guys ? =D

 

[FearxDeath]

Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt control it with eyes alone.

I can bypass this problem by inserting one word into your statement above "Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt fully control it with eyes alone."

But here is one thing you are forgetting and this is case and point for my thread:

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He says "Soon it will be hard to control the juubi, use hashirama cells to strenghten the bond", so the question is prior to that. How were they controlling the Juubi

 

[KCMNaruto]

I can bypass this problem by inserting one word into your statement above "Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt fully control it with eyes alone."

But here is one thing you are forgetting and this is case and point for my thread:

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He says "Soon it will be hard to control the juubi, use hashirama cells to strenghten the bond", so the question is prior to that. How were they controlling the Juubi

^^ Exactly I second this

Before They were controlling it via Rinnengan(the eyes)

Later they were controlling it via Rinnengan(the eyes) and then add Wood release(The body)

Is that what did you mean OP ?

 

[FearxDeath]

^^ Exactly I second this

Before They were controlling it via Rinnengan(the eyes)

Later they were controlling it via Rinnengan(the eyes) and then add Wood release(The body)

Is that what did you mean OP ?

Yes, that is what I meant!!

 

[AlphaScythian]

I can bypass this problem by inserting one word into your statement above "Thats ok, but ever since mokuton link was cut off a genjutsu should have dissipated since it was made clear that they couldnt fully control it with eyes alone."
But here is one thing you are forgetting and this is case and point for my thread:

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He says "Soon it will be hard to control the juubi, use hashirama cells to strenghten the bond", so the question is prior to that. How were they controlling the Juubi

Dont forget that juubi got more muscular since then.
They were using rinnegan too, no doubt. Note that when they started to use hashi cells as told by madara they already had one link in place. I think they simply were pumping more chakra there.
Madara mentioned that hashi cells alone were enough for gedo control, resorting to hashi cells after rinnegan hints its limit. Also obito was away for a while, you think madara could tame it alone with rinnegan?

Not to mention that rinnegan or byakugan never displayed any genjutsu and the best control tool it had were the rods. Created by madara and used in gedo and bijus, it wasnt so easy for nagato vs kyuubi.