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Well Avalon isn't a servant lol, anyways Gil can still defeat the wielder. If Gil isn't restricted by plot he shouldn't be able to loose to anyone.

Saber throughout Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night is never at her full power since Avalon is kept a secret from her for the most part, and even Merlin admitted it was her true strength; Saber with Avalon is the strongest servant if she has a proper Master. She should be able to tank everything and anything. But yeah, all other servants don't stand a chance. This is not including Saver, who is in a whole other realm of power. His Enlightenment power is equivalent to Saber's Avalon.
 
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It's soon time to go back to marathon, so far fate could become one of my top 5 animes of all time.

Yeah that's true, funny how fate is tying something to do with fate in my life, oh boi, this PM you're about to get, I'm planning something you see. : )
 

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Yeah that's true, funny how fate is tying something to do with fate in my life, oh boi, this PM you're about to get, I'm planning something you see. : )

Inb4 wall of text.

Saber got hurt in ep4, i hope she comes back.
 

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Saber throughout Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night is never at her full power since Avalon is kept a secret from her for the most part, and even Merlin admitted it was her true strength; Saber with Avalon is the strongest servant if she has a proper Master. She should be able to tank everything and anything. But yeah, all other servants don't stand a chance. This is not including Saver, who is in a whole other realm of power. His Enlightenment power is equivalent to Saber's Avalon.

I believe Saber said it herself that the only way to stand a chance against him is to beat him before he gets serious. The only reason Gil ever loses is because he isn't fighting seriously. A Gil going all out with all of his Noble Phantasms in his treasury would not lose to Saber, as he knows every hero's weakness and holds all the NP's that killed every hero.
 
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Saber throughout Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night is never at her full power since Avalon is kept a secret from her for the most part, and even Merlin admitted it was her true strength; Saber with Avalon is the strongest servant if she has a proper Master. She should be able to tank everything and anything. But yeah, all other servants don't stand a chance. This is not including Saver, who is in a whole other realm of power. His Enlightenment power is equivalent to Saber's Avalon.

I am a saberfg myself but it is what it is. Confirmed through both the writer and abilities, the fgt aka gilgamesh, is indeed the most powerful servant. Though Avalon saber is top 3 imo in F/Z and F/SN combined.
 
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I am a saber*** myself but it is what it is. Confirmed through both the writer and abilities, the ****** aka gilgamesh, is indeed the most powerful servant. Though Avalon saber is top 3 imo in F/Z and F/SN combined.

Yeah I would say she's 3rd, only behind Berserker and Gilgamesh.
 

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I believe Saber said it herself that the only way to stand a chance against him is to beat him before he gets serious. The only reason Gil ever loses is because he isn't fighting seriously. A Gil going all out with all of his Noble Phantasms in his treasury would not lose to Saber, as he knows every hero's weakness and holds all the NP's that killed every hero.

I am a saberfg myself but it is what it is. Confirmed through both the writer and abilities, the fgt aka gilgamesh, is indeed the most powerful servant. Though Avalon saber is top 3 imo in F/Z and F/SN combined.

I would't say Berserker is above Avalon Saber. Saber Alter completely wrecked Berserker at full power, and Avalon Saber with Rin as a Master was stated to be the strongest servant summoned in the 5th Grail War. Shirou even said she was the strongest servant at that point and not even Berserker could stand up to her. Saber's strength is A with Rin so her sword hits through God Hand with simple melee attacks. And one hit with Excalibur doesn't take one life, but continues take several (7 when Caliburn was used). Saber Heracles or Archer Heracles... one can only speculate. Heracles lacked Nine Lives Blade Works as Berserker.

But Saber with Avalon had all but one scene with screen time before she destroyed the grail, so even that is speculation. Avalon is a sheathe though, it's a defense. So I agree she cannot beat Gilgamesh, because she cannot match the power of Enuma Elish with Excalibur. But she can survive against anything he throws at her.

Neither of them can beat Archer in terms of GAR.
 

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I would't say Berserker is above Avalon Saber. Saber Alter completely wrecked Berserker at full power, and Avalon Saber with Rin as a Master was stated to be the strongest servant summoned in the 5th Grail War. Shirou even said she was the strongest servant at that point and not even Berserker could stand up to her. Saber's strength is A with Rin so her sword hits through God Hand with simple melee attacks. And one hit with Excalibur doesn't take one life, but continues take several (7 when Caliburn was used). Saber Heracles or Archer Heracles... one can only speculate. Heracles lacked Nine Lives Blade Works as Berserker.

But Saber with Avalon had all but one scene with screen time before she destroyed the grail, so even that is speculation. Avalon is a sheathe though, it's a defense. So I agree she cannot beat Gilgamesh, because she cannot match the power of Enuma Elish with Excalibur. But she can survive against anything he throws at her.

Neither of them can beat Archer in terms of GAR.

Berserker would win. Even saber alter's excalibur didn't really finish all of his 12 lives. We know for sure that she took at the very least 3 lives but exactly how much, we don't know that. Though whatever it is, its confirmed that all 12 lives won't go with one strike. And after that excalibur would be unable to kill him, since you have to do it with a different np every time. If you kill berserker with a specific weapon or attack, it would then become ineffective and wouldn't hurt him.

Unless you give saber avalon And Caliburn too, then she would win, though its not really fair imo. Saber under rin being the strongest in the 5th holy grail war was to me more like about her fighting ability(melee), that she would match berserker in it now. But there's still the God hand hax, and that doesn't take in account good melee.

And one more thing, archer hercules would bring havoc like never before. If he would still have god hand then he'd win. But if not then avalon saber would.

Ofc she can stop enuma elish with Avalon. Actually she would survive against Anything with avalon.
 
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Berserker would win. Even saber alter's excalibur didn't really finish all of his 12 lives. We know for sure that she took at the very least 3 lives but exactly how much, we don't know that. Though whatever it is, its confirmed that all 12 lives won't go with one strike. And after that excalibur would be unable to kill him, since you have to do it with a different np every time. If you kill berserker with a specific weapon or attack, it would then become ineffective and wouldn't hurt him.

Unless you give saber avalon And Caliburn too, then she would win, though its not really fair imo. Saber under rin being the strongest in the 5th holy grail war was to me more like about her fighting ability(melee), that she would match berserker in it now. But there's still the God hand hax, and that doesn't take in account good melee.

Ofc she can stop enuma elish with Avalon. Actually she would survive against Anything with avalon.

Saber Alter kept Berserker alive to be Sakura's minion. Saber always has Excalibur which is stronger than Caliburn since it's a divine construct. Even without Avalon, Saber should be able to beat Berserker. But it comes down to Excaliburspam vs Godhanx. So no one but Nasu can really tell.

But annnyywaaayyy, I'm really excited by season 2, and Prisma Illya 2wei Herz comes in the summer, so that's just great. These are a few good upcoming months to be a Fate fan.
 

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Saber Alter kept Berserker alive to be Sakura's minion. Saber always has Excalibur which is stronger than Caliburn since it's a divine construct. Even without Avalon, Saber should be able to beat Berserker. But it comes down to Excaliburspam vs Godhanx. So no one but Nasu can really tell.

But annnyywaaayyy, I'm really excited by season 2, and Prisma Illya 2wei Herz comes in the summer, so that's just great. These are a few good upcoming months to be a Fate fan.

Thats what I thought, but caliburn has its own hax. I have seen her using excalibur which wasn't at full strength so IF thats the case then there might be a chance, but yeah. Shouldn't worry about it too much right now like you said xd.

>Still hasn't watched Prisma Illya :wesobi:
 
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Saber isn't the strongest heroic spirit if she has a ''proper'' Master. No, in fact, she needs Shirou for Avalon. Anyone else won't suffice. Saber can't use Avalon as it was in life without Shirou. She needs him to project it.

Shirou and Saber must employ a different method to retrieve it from within him, having Saber to gather its form while Shirou shapes it with Projection in order to return it to her from across time.
Even after separating it from him, it has merged with him to the point where he is able to create a perfect projection of it without any degradation that bypasses all of the steps due to having a complete record of it.

Karna is the second strongest Heroic Spirit. Although, Enkidu would one-shot him due to being a good counter to Karna because of his Divinity.

Also for everyone who hasn't seen the new shit; The ost are up on this channel ->

Also, Archer's and Shirou's CM videos.





And lastly, drown in Merlin's fabulousness.

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Well lets just assume that she is given avalon while she was in F/Z :skorm:
Well if you consider whole TM verse, then karna comes in.

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The swag life chose Merlin.
 
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