[Discussion] Fate/Stay Night strongest master in physical strengh

Izou Xaxa

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So you know Fate/Stay night is ongoing right now and well i watched the masters fight and i must say Kuzuki Shouichirou is the strongest master when it comes to fighting because he took Rin and Shirou at the same time not to mention he fought against Saber and made her trouble which says a lot with ease Shinji Mato cannot fight Irisviel i dont know about her strengh but i think Kuzuki is more skilled in fighting Lancer said his master is a corward so i dont expect much from this unknown master and the master in Casters flashback is probably weaker than Kuzuki

What do you think?

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Depends on what you mean. If you are excluding all long-range magic users and Shirou due to his projection, then yes, Kuzuki is the strongest if he gets reinforcement from Caster. If he does not or the other characters know how strong he is, then he loses to Kirei and

Bazzet.

Nasu confirmed Bazzet would be able to beat Kuzuki if she fought him a second time since she would have the knowledge on 'Snake'.
 

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Wait you mean strength as in pure physical strength?

Pretty sure Kirei could take that if we factor in FZ feats and HF.

Strongest as in who would win in a battle? Kirei takes that as well i'm fairly certain...


Kirei is the solo master U_U
 

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Wait you mean strength as in pure physical strength?

Pretty sure Kirei could take that if we factor in FZ feats and HF.

Strongest as in who would win in a battle? Kirei takes that as well i'm fairly certain...


Kirei is the solo master U_U

Yeah but Kirie is not taking part in this war
But well Kuzuki could be close to Kires level
 

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Wait you mean strength as in pure physical strength?

Pretty sure Kirei could take that if we factor in FZ feats and HF.

Strongest as in who would win in a battle? Kirei takes that as well i'm fairly certain...


Kirei is the solo master U_U

Nah. HF Kirei can't win due to his age being a problem and generally lowering his base parameters. For an example, Zero Kirei's agility would be higher than HF Kirei's and agility is very important in being able to fight off Kuzuki's 'Snake' fighting style due to his fist movements having the agility comparable to that of snakes, hence the fighting style's name. Agility to fight off agility. So Zero Kirei has the best chance here. That depends on if this is Kuzuki with a body strenghtened with Medea's magic or Kuzuki with no buffs from Medea. If it is the former, Kirei loses. If it's the latter, Kirei can beat him via usage of command spells on things such as weapons and his Black Keys.
 

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[video=youtube;mNWsAe279-8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNWsAe279-8[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;mNWsAe279-8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNWsAe279-8[/video]

Thats why he is my favorite character
From the beginning i predicted that he is strong
Its funny many people i knew said Kuzuki will be Oneshoted by Saber but he instead owned her

Amazing character
 

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Wait you mean strength as in pure physical strength?

Pretty sure Kirei could take that if we factor in FZ feats and HF.

Strongest as in who would win in a battle? Kirei takes that as well i'm fairly certain...


Kirei is the solo master U_U

+1 for the fake priest.

I think Kuzuki is about as strong as the current Shirou.
 

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I would be going with kirei with backup from command spells. He has legit physical feats with speed nearing that of a servant. And even though kuzuki used to be an assassin, I don't think he has the same level of experience and knowledge as of an accomplished executor of the church.
And Kuzuki only made saber trouble with ease because she really went easy on him seeing him as a normal human, and thus he landed some blows due to her being surprised. A servant having saber's level of melee would literally one shot the dude if not for holding back. So it says a lot about him but in the same time don't.
 
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I would be going with kirei with backup from command spells. He has legit physical feats with speed nearing that of a servant. And even though kuzuki used to be an assassin, I don't think he has the same level of experience and knowledge as of an accomplished executor of the church.
And Kuzuki only made saber trouble with ease because she really went easy on him seeing him as a normal human, and thus he landed some blows due to her being surprised. A servant having saber's level of melee would literally one shot the dude if not for holding back. So it says a lot about him but in the same time don't.

Well true Saber is still stronger than him but he gives her a challenge i mean
 

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Well true Saber is still stronger than him but he gives her a challenge i mean

Yeah he can probably give that kind of challenge for just one time to any servant except berserker. His fighting style also helps greatly with that. I mean, he actually killed rider with that.
 

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I would be going with kirei with backup from command spells. He has legit physical feats with speed nearing that of a servant. And even though kuzuki used to be an assassin, I don't think he has the same level of experience and knowledge as of an accomplished executor of the church.
And Kuzuki only made saber trouble with ease because she really went easy on him seeing him as a normal human, and thus he landed some blows due to her being surprised. A servant having saber's level of melee would literally one shot the dude if not for holding back. So it says a lot about him but in the same time don't.

Not really. Kuzuki made trouble for Arturia because his Snake style is completely unexpected and it isn't predictable to the point where it's said that they are ''invisible''. In fact, Arturia was able to keep up with the first strikes only because of her instinct skill. Also, because Medea buffed him with magic which made his fist essentially be capable of denting her armor and etc.

Kirei does win, depending on what version of Kuzuki we're talking about here and the situation the battle is taking place in. If this is Kuzuki with buffs from Medea, Kirei wouldn't be able to avoid the first few strikes until he grasps how Kuzuki's Snake fighting style works and that would result in Kirei getting his skull smashed the moment Kuzuki's fist connects. If we are talking about Kuzuki with no buffs, Kirei would be able to take the first hits and would adjust himself to be able to fight back in the follow-up as he would know the fists move in a snake-like movement, which would essentially result in Kirei getting the upper-hand via Command Spell usage.
 
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