Fastest character that Hashirama can react to ?

[Dark Rasengan]

I'd say either Juubito or Juubidara.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Since Madara was able to react to FTG with Hashiram's SM, I think it's safe to say that Hashirama could definitely react to Tobirama and maybe Minato.

 

[KidGamer65]

Juubito. Base Hashirama was keeping pace w/ EMS Madara who is faster than Sasuke who was tracking and mentally reacting to Juubito. SM>>>Base. Not to mention Tobirama was fast enough to tag Obito during his blitz from less than 10m away.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Juubito. Base Hashirama was keeping pace w/ EMS Madara who is faster than Sasuke who was tracking and mentally reacting to Juubito. SM>>>Base. Not to mention Tobirama was fast enough to tag Obito during his blitz from less than 10m away.

that's alotta A>B>C.

 

[KidGamer65]

that's alotta A>B>C.

Speed is 100% linear. :lol Come on now.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Speed is 100% linear. :lol Come on now.

granted but movement speed and reaction speed are 2 different categories. Especially when your comparison involves sharingan users. Madara being physically faster than sasuke doesn't really have any correlation to sasuke tracking juubito. at least i don't see it.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

granted but movement speed and reaction speed are 2 different categories. Especially when your comparison involves sharingan users. Madara being physically faster than sasuke doesn't really have any correlation to sasuke tracking juubito. at least i do see it.

Lmao @ the quote in your signature.
What a jackass.

 

[KidGamer65]

granted but movement speed and reaction speed are 2 different categories. Especially when your comparison involves sharingan users. Madara being physically faster than sasuke doesn't really have any correlation to sasuke tracking juubito. at least i don't see it.

Madara's reaction feats outweigh Sasuke's reaction feats. I never said it was because Madara physically moves faster. Madara can block Ay's top speed from close range. That puts his reaction speed above Sasuke's and that means whatever Sasuke's eyes (EMS) can track can be tracked by Madara.

 

[NarutoX28]

A few things that denote higher reactions:

1. Madara has stronger chakra which is instantiated by Madara's larger PS. The Sharingan is a reflection of the user's chakra and grows more potent as their chakra develops, so stronger chakra = stronger eyes = greater precognition.
2. Madara both mentally and physically reacted to V2 Raikage point-blank nonchalantly.
3. Madara managed to operate on a similar level to EMS Sasuke despite lacking EMS, relying on diluted Sage Sensing, and being pitted against Sasuke who had the advantage via Kenjutsu.

I think the 1st example is the most concrete one since there's really only one variable to consider.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara's reaction feats outweigh Sasuke's reaction feats. I never said it was because Madara physically moves faster. Madara can block Ay's top speed from close range. That puts his reaction speed above Sasuke's and that means whatever Sasuke's eyes (EMS) can track can be tracked by Madara.

Juubito. Base Hashirama was keeping pace w/ EMS Madara who is faster than Sasuke who was tracking and mentally reacting to Juubito. SM>>>Base. Not to mention Tobirama was fast enough to tag Obito during his blitz from less than 10m away.

am i reading this wrong?

Your Line of logic:


Hashirama can fight equal= to Ems madara who is faster than EMS sasuke.


But i don't see ems sasuke failing to react to anything that ems madara reacted to.

 

[KidGamer65]

am i reading this wrong?

Your Line of logic:


Hashirama can fight equal= to Ems madara who is faster than EMS sasuke.


But i don't see ems sasuke failing to react to anything that ems madara reacted to.

-Bold is a misquote.
-Underlined is irrelevant. Who has the superior reaction feats? EMS Sasuke or EMS Madara? Not Sasuke unless you are willing to post something superior to reacting to top speed Ay from close range with an actual physical guard instead of Susanoo despite Mei's initial attack.

Thus any speed feats Sasuke has go to Madara.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

-Bold is a misquote.
-Underlined is irrelevant. Who has the superior reaction feats? EMS Sasuke or EMS Madara? Not Sasuke unless you are willing to post something superior to reacting to top speed Ay from close range with an actual physical guard instead of Susanoo despite Mei's initial attack.

Thus any speed feats Sasuke has go to Madara.

Isn't Sasuke feat in which he was reading the speed of Jubito better than reacting to Ay ?
Sasuke is very much capable of replicating Madara's feat.

 

[KidGamer65]

Isn't Sasuke feat in which he was reading the speed of Jubito better than reacting to Ay ?
Sasuke is very much capable of replicating Madara's feat.

He didn't physically react, and when he did mentally react he was enhanced by Naruto's cloak.

 

[Oblivionx]

I don't see him reacting to jubito but he can certainly react to anything below that. Except if he is tagged with ftg marking then he can't react.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He didn't physically react, and when he did mentally react he was enhanced by Naruto's cloak.

forgot that this was a thing. Allright. I see your point.

 

[NarutoX28]

Madara has stronger eyes anyways. It's not hard to believe he can react to whatever EMS Sasuke can react to easily.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara has stronger eyes anyways. It's not hard to believe he can react to whatever EMS Sasuke can react to easily.

i'm not debating that. It's just the hashirama fighting equal to madara that confuses me. Madara>sasuke in speed/reactions but how that correlates to hashirama is what i didn't get.