"Fashionable" bulletproof attire for school students. Yup, it's a market now.

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Wait. So now everyone cares about the misery of children?

That’s news to me.

It seems to me people only care when the problem is right next to them.

Because the consensus is still obvious. “Even dead children will never take my guns away. “

FYI, I don’t like guns. I think guns should be banned.

Not everyone cares about kids dying in other countries or other countries failed attempts to correct national tragedies like so but what does it help to laugh at a nation that can't get it right? Where's the progress in that???
 

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Its not about sympathy but being empathic and understand no matter how absurd our government officials treat this it isn't one of a laughing matter, I've watched the footage of the science classroom from the parkland highschool shooting which is a school 20 minutes from my home btw, children and teachers bodies lying on the floor, shits fucked and had me crying. Kids don't deserve this no matter the part of the world

@bold:That's impossible for me to have empathy I mus't experienced the same or similar, therefore I can only sympathise.
 

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The shitty system trying to solve the issue without banning guns -> funny

Kids getting actually shot -> not funny.

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Banning guns only works in the short term though. Long term wise, it's about as good as illegalizing drugs. It'll only excarcebate the matter. The country moreso needs healing than gun control measures which ultimately don't prevent these killings if guns will just be smuggled in with the government helping the smugglers, just like it did after illegalizing drugs and putting stricter controls on certain notorious cities. It may be a better option to just restart the country, just wipe everyone out and start anew, after offering a few days of evacuation, before the country self destructs.

OT: Why do people think banning guns solves the psychological problem infesting itself in the country? It's similar to noticing that a certain community has been getting sick and taking the sickness as the problem when it's environmental factors like air/land/water pollution. So the people should look at the sickness and not the dam that's poisoning the community (?). People didn't think of just finding the medicinal treatment instead of shut down the factories that were actually producing the pernicious air. So why's banning guns now being the first go-to solution? Banning guns will halt the shootings, but only for a while. It'll only be a while before someone figures out how to get around the system's barriers and do even worse things when they get the absolute opportunity. Just get yourselves healed, you've been exposing yourselves to too much mentally distorting information via television (e.g Game of Thrones), games (WOW), etc. You now have lost sense of reality and think just killing people solves all your problems. I think you're trusting your fears way too much, and are being inhibited by it from thinking of more rational solutions than just treating the sickness.
 
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Banning guns only works in the short term though. Long term wise, it's about as good as illegalizing drugs. It'll only excarcebate the matter. The country moreso needs healing than gun control measures which ultimately don't prevent these killings if guns will just be smuggled in with the government helping the smugglers, just like it did after illegalizing drugs and putting stricter controls on certain notorious cities. It may be a better option to just restart the country, just wipe everyone out and start anew, after offering a few days of evacuation, before the country self destructs.

OT: Why do people think banning guns solves the psychological problem infesting itself in the country? It's similar to noticing that a certain community has been getting sick and taking the sickness as the problem when it's environmental factors like air/land/water pollution. So the people should look at the sickness and not the dam that's poisoning the community (?). People didn't think of just finding the medicinal treatment instead of shut down the factories that were actually producing the pernicious air. So why's banning guns now being the first go-to solution? Banning guns will halt the shootings, but only for a while. It'll only be a while before someone figures out how to get around the system's barriers and do even worse things when they get the absolute opportunity. Just get yourselves healed, you've been exposing yourselves to too much mentally distorting information via television (e.g Game of Thrones), games (WOW), etc. You now have lost sense of reality and think just killing people solves all your problems. I think you're trusting your fears way too much, and are being inhibited by it from thinking of more rational solutions than just treating the sickness.

Well firstly, no one is advocating for the total ban of guns, at least most people aren't and even among gun owners, about 80% believe there needs to be more stricter gun laws. I don't know why people continue to propagate this myth when there are real world examples of gun legislation working for other countries that had a gun violence problem.

Guns are not equatable to substances that can be easily manufactured in mass and smuggled. No one expects to fully stop gun violence, but it will no doubt mitigate the problem, and that is reason enough. There are a number of past mass shootings, such as the Dylann Roof shooting, that could have entirely been prevented if proper legislation were in place.

The idea that anyone would just be able to obtain a firearm and ammunition through a black market is simply absurd. Sure, there may be a handful, but that won't be the case for the majority, especially among teens who would go through with a mass-shooting.

As to your other points. The idea that media/entertainment causes people to commit crimes has been holistically debunked. There is absolutely no data that or study that supports the notion that if you watch violent movies or play violent games, that you'll commit violence. Before you say it, yes, exceptions exist in every rule, but that is incredibly rare and does not reign true the average person.

And yes, guns are not the only factor, but they are the most immediate and easily enforced. I don't think you realize how difficult it is to identify and "solve" mental illness, but mental illness is also not a scapegoat. Not everyone shooter is mentally ill and everyone single person on this planet is susceptible to a mental breakdown.
 
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I don't know why people continue to propagate this myth when there are real world examples of gun legislation working for other countries that had a gun violence problem?

Guns are not equatable to substances that can be easily manufactured in mass and smuggled. No one expects to fully stop gun violence, but it will no doubt mitigate the problem, and that is reason enough. There are a number of past mass shootings, such as the Dylann Roof shooting, that could have entirely been prevented if proper legislation were in place.

The idea that anyone would just be able to obtain a firearm and ammunition through a black market is simply absurd. Sure, there may be a handful, but that won't be the case for the majority, especially among teens who would go through with a mass-shooting.
For America it's a whole lot worse, gun controls will not be enough, especially considering this is moreso psychological brought about. I wouldn't think taking physical action prevents the emotional start of the action.

There's cities right now in the US with illegal guns that you couldn't believe how they got there, and that's the truth of it. Guns know their way to a community that's not well groomed or culturally decent. US now has adopted a new culture, of going to guns to solve their problem, and this speaks of what's taught & the communities' state. This means no one is taking responsibility & actually preventing the psychological problems. It's many factors, that I could say are coming with the diversity in the country and its unique take on things. For example: it's only in US where there's racial, gender, nationality, whatever problems you could think of. Other countries don't share this diversity and they don't have a lot to be confused and frustrated about. While US has pretty much been shattered, as a formerly Christian country, it's pretty much the transition effects if I have to lean on the sentimental perception.

It's not absurd though, how is it when a load of drugs managed to get smuggled in in short spaces of time? And teens nowadays can get their hands on anything if only they are determined to, just as they can be psychologically prepared to take down tens of other people with them if they are determined to.

It will mitigate the problem, but how's that really a solution if it's just to mitigate the problem? I would take the solution, but only as a short-term. Long term wise, it's no good, there will always be more determined crowds especially when someone tries to stop them from going about their business.

You're only locking up the beasts, and not decreasing their numbers
 

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For America it's a whole lot worse, gun controls will not be enough, especially considering this is moreso psychological brought about. I wouldn't think taking physical action prevents the emotional start of the action.

There's cities right now in the US with illegal guns that you couldn't believe how they got there, and that's the truth of it. Guns know their way to a community that's not well groomed or culturally decent. US now has adopted a new culture, of going to guns to solve their problem, and this speaks of what's taught & the communities' state. This means no one is taking responsibility & actually preventing the psychological problems. It's many factors, that I could say are coming with the diversity in the country and its unique take on things. For example: it's only in US where there's racial, gender, nationality, whatever problems you could think of. Other countries don't share this diversity and they don't have a lot to be confused and frustrated about. While US has pretty much been shattered, as a formerly Christian country, it's pretty much the transition effects if I have to lean on the sentimental perception.

It's not absurd though, how is it when a load of drugs managed to get smuggled in in short spaces of time? And teens nowadays can get their hands on anything if only they are determined to, just as they can be psychologically prepared to take down tens of other people with them if they are determined to.

It will mitigate the problem, but how's that really a solution if it's just to mitigate the problem? I would take the solution, but only as a short-term. Long term wise, it's no good, there will always be more determined crowds especially when someone tries to stop them from going about their business.

You're only locking up the beasts, and not decreasing their numbers

You are blaming diversity?

Aren’t all crimes and stuff down overall?
 

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For America it's a whole lot worse, gun controls will not be enough, especially considering this is moreso psychological brought about. I wouldn't think taking physical action prevents the emotional start of the action.

That's just a talking point without basis. There are studies which show that people who have access to a firearm are more likely to go through with a violent act than if they had access to an alternative weapon, such as a knife.


There's cities right now in the US with illegal guns that you couldn't believe how they got there, and that's the truth of it. Guns know their way to a community that's not well groomed or culturally decent. US now has adopted a new culture, of going to guns to solve their problem, and this speaks of what's taught & the communities' state. This means no one is taking responsibility & actually preventing the psychological problems.

That's because currently, most gun laws differ from state to state. Some are stricter than others and when there's a state that has harder access to guns, the people then get their guns from neighboring states with looser gun laws. A federal mandate would resolve this issue.

It's many factors, that I could say are coming with the diversity in the country and its unique take on things. For example: it's only in US where there's racial, gender, nationality, whatever problems you could think of. Other countries don't share this diversity and they don't have a lot to be confused and frustrated about. While US has pretty much been shattered, as a formerly Christian country, it's pretty much the transition effects if I have to lean on the sentimental perception.

Not really. Yeah, the U.S. has the most diversity, but race, gender, nationality are problems that exist all over the world. There are literal massacres that are started because someone is a different sect of a religion or from a different tribe and solely on that basis. This is beside the point though. It has little to do with the gun problem we're seeing.

It's not absurd though, how is it when a load of drugs managed to get smuggled in in short spaces of time? And teens nowadays can get their hands on anything if only they are determined to, just as they can be psychologically prepared to take down tens of other people with them if they are determined to.

Yes it is because it hasn't happened to other countries that limited or flat-out banned their guns. Saying the U.S. is different case is once again another talking point. Similar situations existed. Having a bigger and more diverse population doesn't change the fact that stricter gun laws reduce gun deaths.


It will mitigate the problem, but how's that really a solution if it's just to mitigate the problem? I would take the solution, but only as a short-term. Long term wise, it's no good, there will always be more determined crowds especially when someone tries to stop them from going about their business.

Having no gun deaths at all is unrealistic. If gun laws prevent even one gun death, then that is reason enough. You're acting as if we institute gun laws that we can't do anything else. We can build upon what we know already works. For example, Australia had a gun violence problem which was changed when they reformed their gun laws in 1996. Since then, there hasn't been a mass shooting in over 20 years. That sounds like a solution to me.

You're only locking up the beasts, and not decreasing their numbers

And how would you "decrease" their numbers? Would that include monitoring an entire population to see what they think and do in their daily lives to determine who's "dangerous?"
 

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Girl, if one if not the most powerful nation of this world is incapable of solving this kind of issue, then sorry but I can't help it but to laugh.

Power doesn’t equate to perfection of a society nor does it guarantee it’s moral compass. That’s the problem with the world and the people in it. They look at the U.S as some type of garden of eden or kingdom of OZ as if it’s government is standard of democracy or as if Americans are the epitome contributing to society but ignorance is bliss I guess.

I might sound cruel but I'm not in your position

TF? Stating that you live in a country with less gun violence isn’t cruel, it’s a fact. Let’s not confuse facts and data with emotion.

never will be

You don’t know that, that’s the same thing Americans said since the drafting of its constitution and look where America is at.. this is the part were you need to humble up and not be arrogant.

So i can't be empathetic and understand how you guys feel.

Wait a minute girl......... are you telling me that you as a organic being with emotions can’t have empathy for the parents of a 7 year old who lost their child to gun violence because you’ve never experienced it yourself? If so you sound like Donald Trump honestly with that type of logic.

I had the luxury to grow up in a country which puts child safety above anything.

Which is why you shouldn’t be laughing! I don’t see the humor in the children of your country not experiencing gun violence unlike MANY children in other countries besides America does.

Be thankful you don’t have too deal with this, don’t laugh.

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It is hilarious. Stop saying it’s not funny.
First no guns.

Now teachers are having guns.

Schools are spending tax money to arm themselves.
have
Eventually, students will have guns.

We are so close to having young gun wielders in real life.

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Your brain dead and so is the other two you liked this shit.
 

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It would be funny if it wasn't also depressing that we're living in a time where children need bulletproof backpacks.

[video=youtube;nLjeMLx8Bgo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLjeMLx8Bgo&ab_channel=TheMajorityReportw%2FSamSeder[/video]

That shit's a stupid marketing ploy seeking to extort the fear of parents. Bulletproof clothing has been around for years and it's insanely expensive, school kids and their parents aren't going to be able to afford this unless they're going to schools where this is an extremely low odds of happening. A bulletproof back pack is useless really because once shit gets going most no kid is worried about grabbing their back pack while trying to flee.
 

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Learn the difference between sympathy and empathy people, it's coming across as a few not knowing what it means. For empathy to exist you must experience the same or similar you share something in common. There are some who suggest you can by putting yourself in said person's shoes however it's impossible since it's down to your imagination. Sympathy is feeling sorry for the person and their loss since you don't share the same experience imagination is appropriate in this regard.

Back to the topic at hand.

I think you'll find this interesting a country with guns, doesn't engage in wars and there aren't mass shootings. Perhaps the Americans can learn a thing or two.

 

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We are doomed as a society.

Funny thing is that if I had kids I would consider this approach.

If you had kids i would feel sorry for them.
 

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If you had kids i would feel sorry for them.

Feel sorry for him protecting his kids?
 

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Feel sorry for him protecting his kids?

Feel sorry for his kids being unprotected from himself.

Well firstly, no one is advocating for the total ban of guns, at least most people aren't and even among gun owners, about 80% believe there needs to be more stricter gun laws. I don't know why people continue to propagate this myth when there are real world examples of gun legislation working for other countries that had a gun violence problem.

Where did you pull the 80% from? lol. Gun laws are already strict. If you really want to keep spreading this rhetoric of yours you have a better chance at making a difference by making a website and rallying outside than virtue signaling about the same shit on a forum.

Guns are not equatable to substances that can be easily manufactured in mass and smuggled. No one expects to fully stop gun violence, but it will no doubt mitigate the problem, and that is reason enough. There are a number of past mass shootings, such as the Dylann Roof shooting, that could have entirely been prevented if proper legislation were in place.

And never will. Also more virtue signaling. Like Melanin, posting an image of a black/biracial little girl. Why did you bring up Dylann Roof specifically of all massacres and shootings that have happened in america? Hmm... I wonder if it was because he was a white man who shot up a church of blacks... Nah that's obviously not it *sarcasm*

The idea that anyone would just be able to obtain a firearm and ammunition through a black market is simply absurd. Sure, there may be a handful, but that won't be the case for the majority, especially among teens who would go through with a mass-shooting.

The majority doesn't go around shooting people.

As to your other points. The idea that media/entertainment causes people to commit crimes has been holistically debunked. There is absolutely no data that or study that supports the notion that if you watch violent movies or play violent games, that you'll commit violence. Before you say it, yes, exceptions exist in every rule, but that is incredibly rare and does not reign true the average person.

Except for Alex Jones, that is the only exception, right? The media or any other form of "entertainment" has never incited anyone into doing anything. Makes sense.
 
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Just remember everyone.

Once it’s decided that we have to train students to have and use guns, we officially lost it.
 

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Why did you bring up Dylann Roof specifically of all massacres and shootings that have happened in america? Hmm... I wonder if it was because he was a white man who shot up a church of blacks... Nah that's obviously not it *sarcasm*.

Oh boi, here comes the irate Neo-Nazi.

Dylann Roof isn't even the topic of the discussion. Are you really that butthurt about any mentions of a white guy killing black people?
 

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Oh boi, here comes the irate Neo-Nazi.

Dylann Roof isn't even the topic of the discussion. Are you really that butthurt about any mentions of a white guy killing black people?

Boi, stop being such a white guilt virtue signaling cunt. You just care about getting likes from the black members here on the base who think you're doing them a favor.

Am i right or not?

Of course Dylann Roof wasn't the topic of dicussion, but that didn't stop you from bringing it up. Out of the countless tragedies.
 
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Boi, stop being such a white guilt virtue signaling cunt. You just care about getting likes from the black members here on the base who think you're doing them a favor.
Dylann roof was allowed to purchase a gun despite his criminal background, that is the issue. Why are YOU making this about race let alone feels like you are defending the white supremist mass murderer. You made a thread like a week ago or so asking if people think you are racist. Now I see why.
 

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Dylann roof was allowed to purchase a gun despite his criminal background, that is the issue.

So were rest, including the man (who didn't even have a criminal background as far as i'm concerned) who killed 50-60+ people and hurt dozens more in Las Vegas (with automatic weapons too). So what is your point?

What about Sandy Hooks? The Night Club? The other churches? The school shootings? Knowing Lightbringer's post history, if you legitimately think he specifically mentioned Dylann Roof to make a legitimate argument and not because of race, i'm sorry but you're a massive idiot. And if you think i'm somehow defending that you're also a massive idiot.

All idiots belong together.

Why are YOU making this about race let alone feels like you are defending the white supremist mass murderer.

I'm not making this about race, they are making it about race. And now you are too.

You made a thread like a week ago or so asking if people think you are racist. Now I see why.

And now i see that i shouldn't take you seriously either gj.
 
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So were rest, including the man (who didn't even have a criminal background as far as i'm concerned) who killed 50-60+ people and hurt dozens more in Las Vegas. So what is your point?



I'm not making this about race, they are making it about race. And now you are too.



And now i see that i shouldn't take you seriously either gj.

On the Vegas shooter.

You don’t think it’s weird that a shop doesn’t have to report multiple rifle purchases? Maybe that should change? Because why on earth would someone need so many rifles and ammo? That should have been a red flag.
 

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So were rest, including the man (who didn't even have a criminal background as far as i'm concerned) who killed 50-60+ people and hurt dozens more in Las Vegas. So what is your point?



I'm not making this about race, they are making it about race. And now you are too.



And now i see that i shouldn't take you seriously either gj.
So what he used dylann roof as an example to solidify the claim? Is it not correct? How is it an issue? Does it annoy you that an openly vocal white supremist committed an act of terrorism in our country? I don't care if you don't take me seriously anymore, in your thread I stated I didn't know you well enough to call you a racist but I'm certain you are now.
 
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