this nonsense about not sasuke having senjutsu and not being able to hurt a jj when madara got bisected and pierced and sasuke could sense natural energy smh. anyways ps rapes juubitos tsb and he gets cut into pieces with its slashes. or sasuke amenos behind him and vapourizes him with ps chidori. rasengan put a hole in his back, ps chidori skewers him completely
this nonsense about not sasuke having senjutsu and not being able to hurt a jj when madara got bisected and pierced and sasuke could sense natural energy smh. anyways ps rapes juubitos tsb and he gets cut into pieces with its slashes. or sasuke amenos behind him and vapourizes him with ps chidori. rasengan put a hole in his back, ps chidori skewers him completely
some just have a problem with him or naruto being able to defeat a jj even though the manga shows they are well above juubito given their performances against madara, kaguya and themselves.
Ems sasuke and bsm naruto were tracking juubito and tagging him. rinnegan sasukes ps>>>>>soosano he used against juubito so the latter gets his ass carved apart as sasuke can deliver much stronger attacks than what harmed him previously
this nonsense about not sasuke having senjutsu and not being able to hurt a jj when madara got bisected and pierced and sasuke could sense natural energy smh.
Sasuke cut Madara with a Yin Seal Chidori, something that he doesn't have here. You don't need senjutsu in order to sense the flow of natural energy, just training in the art of senjutsu.
anyways ps rapes juubitos tsb and he gets cut into pieces with its slashes. or sasuke amenos behind him and vapourizes him with ps chidori. rasengan put a hole in his back, ps chidori skewers him completely
Just like Sasuke Ameno'd behind Naruto's avatar and vaporized it right?
The Sword of Nunoboko tears Sasuke's PS apart. Sasuke has no senjutsu, so his PS chidori isn't doing anything to Obito's truthseekers.
Give Sasuke the Yin Seal and he still loses, because the Sword of Nunoboko simply overpowers his PS.
=TheSages456;20209759]Sasuke cut Madara with a Yin Seal Chidori, something that he doesn't have here. You don't need senjutsu in order to sense the flow of natural energy, just training in the art of senjutsu.
i dont remember him forming chidori eiso with yin seal unless you can show me the scan, not in the mood for speculations.
and yes you do as pa stated something like that. not to mention sasuke isnt trained in the arts of senjutsu so you defeat your own point. he didnt even know what senjutsu was until the juubito fight.
Just like Sasuke Ameno'd behind Naruto's avatar and vaporized it right?
we dont even have any feats from the sword but even then it can be dodged with ease as sasuke warps behind obito and rapes him from them unless you want to tell me sasuke would stand there and take a direct hit.
he does have senjutsu so his ps chidori shatters obitos tsb and obito follows swiflty follows. black chidori is the effect of senjutsu. if you want to claim the colour change is the effect of yin seal then i guess kakashi has yin seal since he displayed black raikiri? nope as saying that would make you look like a fool. whats common with sasuke and kakashi is their possession of rikudous chakra and thats all thats necessary
or he swaps with one of the tsbs and nails obito with a well timed ps slash. judging by the close proximity the tsbs are with obito, achieving this is extremely simple.
Give Sasuke the Yin Seal and he still loses, because the Sword of Nunoboko simply overpowers his PS.
and yes you do as pa stated something like that. not to mention sasuke isnt trained in the arts of senjutsu so you defeat your own point. he didnt even know what senjutsu was until the juubito fight.
No, they didn't. Sensing the flow of natural energy is a prerequisite for Sage Mode. Sasuke's body is trained in the art of senjutsu. He trained with his cursed seal & mastered Sage transformation.
he didnt used ps chidori when he got behind the avatar but a simple punch so try again.
Talking about when they clashed with Chidori and Bijudama.
we dont even have any feats from the sword but even then it can be dodged with ease as sasuke warps behind obito and rapes him from them unless you want to tell me sasuke would stand there and take a direct hit.
What's with all these claims about Sasuke warping behind Obito & instakilling him when he couldn't flank Naruto even once using this method with his normal PS?
Sasuke warps, Obito reacts by swinging his sword and Sasuke's PS shatters.
he does have senjutsu so his ps chidori shatters obitos tsb and obito follows swiflty follows. black chidori is the effect of senjutsu. if you want to claim the colour change is the effect of yin seal then i guess kakashi has yin seal since he displayed black raikiri? nope as saying that would make you look like a fool. whats common with sasuke and kakashi is their possession of rikudous chakra and thats all thats necessary
or he swaps with one of the tsbs and nails obito with a well timed ps slash. judging by the close proximity the tsbs are with obito, achieving this is extremely simple.
The Six Paths Yin Seal contains senjutsu chakra, which turns Chidori black. Not really sure why you think that senjutsu wouldn't be related to them as the seals require Six Paths Senjutsu to create.
Kakashi received Obito's Six Paths chakra that he stole from Madara. Kamui raikiri also contains kamui's power, so it wouldn't help your point at all.
No, they didn't. Sensing the flow of natural energy is a prerequisite for Sage Mode. Sasuke's body is trained in the art of senjutsu. He trained with his cursed seal & mastered Sage transformation.
Talking about when they clashed with Chidori and Bijudama.
What's with all these claims about Sasuke warping behind Obito & instakilling him when he couldn't flank Naruto even once using this method with his normal PS?
Sasuke warps, Obito reacts by swinging his sword and Sasuke's PS shatters.
The Six Paths Yin Seal contains senjutsu chakra, which turns Chidori black. Not really sure why you think that senjutsu wouldn't be related to them as the seals require Six Paths Senjutsu to create.
Kakashi received Obito's Six Paths chakra that he stole from Madara. Kamui raikiri also contains kamui's power, so it wouldn't help your point at all.
To be fair Sasuke did land an attack on JJ Madara but was laughed at in one attack & was ignored by the other which to me showed that Sasuke was useless besides coming up with a strategy for defending against the enemy. Other than that, He was pertty much chilled in the war arc. All the effects he had in the war arc was because he was fused with Jugo with NE or Naruto with SM. (Senjutsu)
Not having senjutsu is a big deal if he's battling a JJ. Check out the war arc where Sasuke was more worried about Hengoku then he was about the physical Madara that he could touch but couldn't effect because of the lack of senjutsu. While Naruto charge them up without being able to see them but sense them and stop them where they fought at.(Senjutsu)
am pretty sure thats just a drawing outline made clearer due to it being VIZ. their panels are always clear so this is no proof. even if what you are saying is correct, i can easily claim that black line is th effect of the senjutsu which he possesses independent of the seal.
No, they didn't. Sensing the flow of natural energy is a prerequisite for Sage Mode. Sasuke's body is trained in the art of senjutsu. He trained with his cursed seal & mastered Sage transformation.
-the chidori clashed with bijudama so it didnt hit narutos avatar directly unlike this battle were obitos body would be hit by the chidori and thus he gets vapourized. then theres the fact that the avatar>>obitos body in durability by far so you mentioning the avatar doesnt even help your point in the slightest
-sasuke didnt warp towards naruto in that situation, he simply flew towards him. in this case he warps towards him and nails him
What's with all these claims about Sasuke warping behind Obito & instakilling him when he couldn't flank Naruto even once using this method with his normal PS?
he never warped towards naruto with ps chidori so fail and ive already addressed your naruto point above. naruto defended from ps attacks with his avatar which shits all over obitos body in durability as rasengan put a hole in it. its a valid method because obito isnt reacting anytime to ameno not when the slower Ems sasuke tracked and tagged him and when the faster jj madara got blized without any reaction. so unless you can offer a valid counter, then sasuke warps behind and turns him to paste.
Sasuke warps, Obito reacts by swinging his sword and Sasuke's PS shatters.
no obito doesnt react when faster characters couldnt, so fail.
The Six Paths Yin Seal contains senjutsu chakra, which turns Chidori black. Not really sure why you think that senjutsu wouldn't be related to them as the seals require Six Paths Senjutsu to create.
more like hagoromos chakra contains senjutsu chakra which turned chidori black. the seals being related to six path senjutsu doent mean thats were sasuke derives his senjutsu from.
Kakashi received Obito's Six Paths chakra that he stole from Madara. Kamui raikiri also contains kamui's power, so it wouldn't help your point at all.
and sasuke has that same six paths chakra and your evidence of it being derivedfrom the seal is completely worthless so my point stands. imbuing kamuis power to raikiri would have no effect on the colour of it as kamui isnt any sort of chakra amplifier so you fail there.
No one seems to ever mention this so i guess I will. Sasuke did use the yin seal for his chidori, but he only did this once. If you re look at the page where sasuke uses chidori and tell naruto to rush at him, you will see something that chidori never has done when he hit madara with it. Sasuke used to yin seal to create a sealing chidori. This is evident by the fact that chidori wrapped around madara.
Both sasuke and naruto still retain their sage chakra, thus both Adult naruto and sasuke are sage like characters. The sage chakra allows sasuke to hit and damage juubi jins. This means the sasuke that fought juubito is nothing like adult sasuke or the sasuke that fought juubi jin madara.
Also, obito doesn't have the actual sword of nunoboku since his juubi jin form is imperfect. He doesn't have all the tail beast and is leagues and maybe even centuries behind the actual wielder of the sword of nunoboku. Also, sasuke can't hurt madara's limbo clones and naruto can't hurt madara's limbo clones. Madara's limbo clones are not a part of the physical planes. You can touch madara's limbo clones with sage chakra but in order to stop them you must stop the original. This is why Shinju juubi jin madara is one of the most op characters in all of naruto.
am pretty sure thats just a drawing outline made clearer due to it being VIZ. their panels are always clear so this is no proof. even if what you are saying is correct, i can easily claim that black line is th effect of the senjutsu which he possesses independent of the seal.
Then you would simply be acting dishonest then, since none of Sasuke's Chidori Eiso have ever had an outline like the one in that panel.
There is already conclusive evidence of the seals being used when Sasuke used his black Chidori. The seals coloration goes from black to white when he draws chakra from it.
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Sasuke doesn't possess half of Hagoromo's chakra. That half of his power is the only thing outside of the Rinnegan that he actually gave him, which would be the seal, not some imaginary power that you're claiming that Sasuke supposedly made his own.
In conclusion, you have absolutely no evidence for Sasuke possessing half of Hagoromo's chakra while I proved the opposite without any room for contention, so this portion of the debate is over.
then your point is even less valid than before.
-the chidori clashed with bijudama so it didnt hit narutos avatar directly unlike this battle were obitos body would be hit by the chidori and thus he gets vapourized. then theres the fact that the avatar>>obitos body in durability by far so you mentioning the avatar doesnt even help your point in the slightest
-sasuke didnt warp towards naruto in that situation, he simply flew towards him. in this case he warps towards him and nails him
he never warped towards naruto with ps chidori so fail and ive already addressed your naruto point above. naruto defended from ps attacks with his avatar which shits all over obitos body in durability as rasengan put a hole in it. its a valid method because obito isnt reacting anytime to ameno not when the slower Ems sasuke tracked and tagged him and when the faster jj madara got blized without any reaction. so unless you can offer a valid counter, then sasuke warps behind and turns him to paste.
no obito doesnt react when faster characters couldnt, so fail.
Still didn't get my point. If Sasuke couldn't warp and smack the 100x bigger Kurama with PS Chidori which is a situation identical to the one that you're suggesting, then he isn't hitting something that's smaller and faster with this tactic.
Not sure where you're getting "slower EMS Sasuke" from when the only difference between him and Rinnegan Sasuke is the Rinnegan. He managed to corner Obito in tandem with Naruto, not by himself.
Your argument is that since Sasuke managed to track Obito, Obito will fail to dodge any of his Susano sword swings. No, that would only mean that Sasuke will be able to physically keep up in their battle. It doesn't support the ridiculous idea that Sasuke is 100% undodgeable.
Not really seeing any feats or any other sort of evidence for Ten Tails Madara being faster than Ten Tails Obito either, let alone to a significant extent where it's worth bringing up.
Madara being faster than Obito when neither have the Ten Tails isn't really sufficient evidence.
As far as Amenotejikara blitzing is concerned, he hit Madara when Madara was rushing at him and Sasuke swapped with his sword, which made Madara impale himself.
The other time that Madara was hit, both Naruto & Sasuke were attacking him at the same time, not Sasuke alone.
more like hagoromos chakra contains senjutsu chakra which turned chidori black. the seals being related to six path senjutsu doent mean thats were sasuke derives his senjutsu from.
and sasuke has that same six paths chakra and your evidence of it being derivedfrom the seal is completely worthless so my point stands. imbuing kamuis power to raikiri would have no effect on the colour of it as kamui isnt any sort of chakra amplifier so you fail there.
Nope, the seals themselves are Six Paths Senjutsu. These claims don't make any sense, because if Sasuke's chakra was all senjutsu, then he would never use a white Chidori.
Where is the evidence that Kamui's power has no effect on Raikiri's color? Why does this even matter when Kakashi possessed the Six Paths chakra that Obito stole from Madara, while Sasuke naturally possesses no such thing?
None of what you're saying here makes much sense, nor does it have any evidence backing it. All of this was disproved earlier in my post.
