[Discussion] Fan service

[SoulKiller]

...OK. I don't really get this...but...

I'm not hating, I'm pointing out an observation and clearly, as Bleach's readers have plummeted, I'm not the only one finding fault. Just because a fan finds fault with something doesn't mean they are hating, sometimes it means they care. Bleach has degraded significantly in quality in recent years, now it feels that Kubo is trying to win back readers by playing to their every whim in a disjointed plot. In the last few months I don't know how many times "this technique" has been thrown in. Just because I don't go girly screaming at every stroke Kubo puts to paper doesn't mean I am hating on Bleach.

not hating? you whine every week about bleach, and usually i do not care honestly but you... you are one ball of negativity, if you call whining and *****ing (excuse for language) every week about the manga is not hating but caring? then you sure have an interesting way to care about manga lol. But hey do what suit you, I really do not care but just wanted to point it out for the fun of it. As for bleach manga dropping in quality, that's what you think since many others think bleach manga is great. But let's be real here xD you still salty about gin death lol.

Minority? So, Bleach sales dropped that much because of minority?

dropping in sales? last time i checked bleach was number 2 in last week sales.

Spoiler

*1.　1,668,225　1,668,225　One Piece Vol.77
*2.　*,239,346　*,239,346　Bleach Vol.67
*3.　*,192,225　*,192,225　One Punch-Man Vol.8
*4.　*,148,324　*,148,324　Nisekoi Vol.17
*5.　*,144,657　*,144,657　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.12
*6.　*,142,424　*,142,424　Toriko Vol.34
*7.　*,141,197　*,141,197　Gintama Vol.58
*8.　*,132,801　*,132,801　Boku no Hero Academia Vol.3
*9.　*,116,381　*,116,381　To LOVE-ru Darkness Vol.13
10.　*,101,324　*,101,324　Owari no Seraph Vol.8

11.　*,*87,158　*,247,571　Ore Monogatari! Vol.8
12.　*,*80,978　*,697,661　Tokyo Ghoul:re Vol.2
13.　*,*62,879　*,*62,879　Kinnikuman Vol.50
14.　*,*58,565　*,*58,565　Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Vol.13
15.　*,*53,444　*,128,643　Kanojo wa Uso wo Aishisugiteru Vol.16
16.　*,*51,232　*,*51,232　Gakuen Babysitters Vol.11
17.　*,*47,304　*,145,582　Hibi Chouchou Vol.10
18.　*,*46,713　*,*46,713　Tegami Bachi Vol.19
19.　*,*46,337　*,769,888　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.13
20.　*,*45,206　*,103,712　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei: Kyuukousen-hen Vol.3

21.　*,*41,916　*,*41,916　Gintama Vol.58 Limited Edition
22.　*,*41,772　*,380,191　Fairy Tail Vol.48
23.　*,*36,913　*,*73,019　ReLIFE Vol.3
24.　*,*35,788　*,*35,788　To LOVE-ru Darkness Vol.13 Limited Edition
25.　*,*35,444　*,*72,913　Mujaki no Rakuen Vol.7
26.　*,*34,484　*,*34,484　Kekkai Sensen Vol.10
27.　*,*33,895　*,*81,481　Hachimitsu ni Hatsukoi Vol.11
28.　*,*31,530　*,280,151　Diamond no Ace Vol.46
29.　*,*31,499　*,*31,499　Nisekoi Vol.17 Limited Edition
30.　*,*31,434　*,269,167　Ahiru no Sora Vol.40

31.　*,*30,899　*,244,653　Skip Beat! Vol.36
32.　*,*28,571　*,160,894　Kuu Neru Futari Sumu Futari Vol.5
33.　*,*28,434　*,115,532　Billy Bat Vol.16
34.　*,*26,827　*,*26,827　Hana wa Saku ka Vol.5 Special Edition
35.　*,*24,838　*,*43,708　Dorei-ku: Boku to 23-nin no Dorei Vol.7
36.　*,*24,652　*,657,851　Haikyuu!! Vol.15
37.　*,*24,434　1,119,512　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.4
38.　*,*24,304　1,049,814　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.5
39.　*,*23,800　*,*78,223　Kakukaku Shikajika Vol.5
40.　*,*23,762　*,*62,096　True Love Vol.7

41.　*,*23,532　*,*56,708　THE iDOLM@STER Vol.4
42.　*,*23,015　1,184,862　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.3
43.　*,*21,455　*,240,986　Youkai Watch Vol.6
44.　*,*21,125　*,819,158　Tokyo Ghoul:re Vol.1
45.　*,*20,703　*,852,065　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.10
46.　*,*20,564　*,846,451　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.12
47.　*,*20,438　*,*56,630　New Game! Vol.2
48.　*,*20,399　*,134,476　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Official Character Book: Meibo no Jikan
49.　*,*20,327　*,933,434　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.7
50.　*,*20,312　*,*46,762　Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Vol.6

and hell it's doing damn great in sales without the anime. Now remove the anime of the the other big manga's and let's see how they do

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

not hating? you whine every week about bleach, and usually i do not care honestly but you... you are one ball of negativity, if you call whining and *****ing (excuse for language) every week about the manga is not hating but caring? then you sure have an interesting way to care about manga lol. But hey do what suit you, I really do not care but just wanted to point it out for the fun of it. As for bleach manga dropping in quality, that's what you think since many others think bleach manga is great. But let's be real here xD you still salty about gin death lol.




dropping in sales? last time i checked bleach was number 2 in last week sales.

Spoiler

*1.　1,668,225　1,668,225　One Piece Vol.77
*2.　*,239,346　*,239,346　Bleach Vol.67
*3.　*,192,225　*,192,225　One Punch-Man Vol.8
*4.　*,148,324　*,148,324　Nisekoi Vol.17
*5.　*,144,657　*,144,657　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.12
*6.　*,142,424　*,142,424　Toriko Vol.34
*7.　*,141,197　*,141,197　Gintama Vol.58
*8.　*,132,801　*,132,801　Boku no Hero Academia Vol.3
*9.　*,116,381　*,116,381　To LOVE-ru Darkness Vol.13
10.　*,101,324　*,101,324　Owari no Seraph Vol.8

11.　*,*87,158　*,247,571　Ore Monogatari! Vol.8
12.　*,*80,978　*,697,661　Tokyo Ghoul:re Vol.2
13.　*,*62,879　*,*62,879　Kinnikuman Vol.50
14.　*,*58,565　*,*58,565　Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Vol.13
15.　*,*53,444　*,128,643　Kanojo wa Uso wo Aishisugiteru Vol.16
16.　*,*51,232　*,*51,232　Gakuen Babysitters Vol.11
17.　*,*47,304　*,145,582　Hibi Chouchou Vol.10
18.　*,*46,713　*,*46,713　Tegami Bachi Vol.19
19.　*,*46,337　*,769,888　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.13
20.　*,*45,206　*,103,712　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei: Kyuukousen-hen Vol.3

21.　*,*41,916　*,*41,916　Gintama Vol.58 Limited Edition
22.　*,*41,772　*,380,191　Fairy Tail Vol.48
23.　*,*36,913　*,*73,019　ReLIFE Vol.3
24.　*,*35,788　*,*35,788　To LOVE-ru Darkness Vol.13 Limited Edition
25.　*,*35,444　*,*72,913　Mujaki no Rakuen Vol.7
26.　*,*34,484　*,*34,484　Kekkai Sensen Vol.10
27.　*,*33,895　*,*81,481　Hachimitsu ni Hatsukoi Vol.11
28.　*,*31,530　*,280,151　Diamond no Ace Vol.46
29.　*,*31,499　*,*31,499　Nisekoi Vol.17 Limited Edition
30.　*,*31,434　*,269,167　Ahiru no Sora Vol.40

31.　*,*30,899　*,244,653　Skip Beat! Vol.36
32.　*,*28,571　*,160,894　Kuu Neru Futari Sumu Futari Vol.5
33.　*,*28,434　*,115,532　Billy Bat Vol.16
34.　*,*26,827　*,*26,827　Hana wa Saku ka Vol.5 Special Edition
35.　*,*24,838　*,*43,708　Dorei-ku: Boku to 23-nin no Dorei Vol.7
36.　*,*24,652　*,657,851　Haikyuu!! Vol.15
37.　*,*24,434　1,119,512　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.4
38.　*,*24,304　1,049,814　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.5
39.　*,*23,800　*,*78,223　Kakukaku Shikajika Vol.5
40.　*,*23,762　*,*62,096　True Love Vol.7

41.　*,*23,532　*,*56,708　THE iDOLM@STER Vol.4
42.　*,*23,015　1,184,862　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.3
43.　*,*21,455　*,240,986　Youkai Watch Vol.6
44.　*,*21,125　*,819,158　Tokyo Ghoul:re Vol.1
45.　*,*20,703　*,852,065　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.10
46.　*,*20,564　*,846,451　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.12
47.　*,*20,438　*,*56,630　New Game! Vol.2
48.　*,*20,399　*,134,476　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Official Character Book: Meibo no Jikan
49.　*,*20,327　*,933,434　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.7
50.　*,*20,312　*,*46,762　Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Vol.6

and hell it's doing damn great in sales without the anime. Now remove the anime of the the other big manga's and let's see how they do

The sales have gone up because of Aizen and the end of Naruto.

It's not about Gin. I have been a fan of Bleach for years and years and I can't stand what Kubo has done to it. The story doesn't even make sense anymore, the chapters don't move, the characters have changed for fan service, Ichigo is barely recognisable, he has turned into the Kon version. He forgets characters, his enemy designs are ridiculous in places, fights are over in a blink and usually off panelled, smut has become its brand of humour, he changed the whole tack, it failed and now he is fan servicing trying to fix it, its long winded, a manga is supposed to fit in the panels. It's like it is being written by someone else. Grimmjow should have appeared ages ago for it to make sense. Most readers who have been there for a long time would agree that Bleach has dropped.

The Anime was cancelled, Kubo panicked and tried to make it more serious, that failed and now he is using fan service to try and win back his audience.

I complain because I lament what has happened to a manga that once has perfect balance

 

[Forbidden Tale]

dropping in sales? last time i checked bleach was number 2 in last week sales.

Spoiler

*1.　1,668,225　1,668,225　One Piece Vol.77
*2.　*,239,346　*,239,346　Bleach Vol.67
*3.　*,192,225　*,192,225　One Punch-Man Vol.8
*4.　*,148,324　*,148,324　Nisekoi Vol.17
*5.　*,144,657　*,144,657　Shokugeki no Souma Vol.12
*6.　*,142,424　*,142,424　Toriko Vol.34
*7.　*,141,197　*,141,197　Gintama Vol.58
*8.　*,132,801　*,132,801　Boku no Hero Academia Vol.3
*9.　*,116,381　*,116,381　To LOVE-ru Darkness Vol.13
10.　*,101,324　*,101,324　Owari no Seraph Vol.8

11.　*,*87,158　*,247,571　Ore Monogatari! Vol.8
12.　*,*80,978　*,697,661　Tokyo Ghoul:re Vol.2
13.　*,*62,879　*,*62,879　Kinnikuman Vol.50
14.　*,*58,565　*,*58,565　Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Vol.13
15.　*,*53,444　*,128,643　Kanojo wa Uso wo Aishisugiteru Vol.16
16.　*,*51,232　*,*51,232　Gakuen Babysitters Vol.11
17.　*,*47,304　*,145,582　Hibi Chouchou Vol.10
18.　*,*46,713　*,*46,713　Tegami Bachi Vol.19
19.　*,*46,337　*,769,888　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.13
20.　*,*45,206　*,103,712　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei: Kyuukousen-hen Vol.3

21.　*,*41,916　*,*41,916　Gintama Vol.58 Limited Edition
22.　*,*41,772　*,380,191　Fairy Tail Vol.48
23.　*,*36,913　*,*73,019　ReLIFE Vol.3
24.　*,*35,788　*,*35,788　To LOVE-ru Darkness Vol.13 Limited Edition
25.　*,*35,444　*,*72,913　Mujaki no Rakuen Vol.7
26.　*,*34,484　*,*34,484　Kekkai Sensen Vol.10
27.　*,*33,895　*,*81,481　Hachimitsu ni Hatsukoi Vol.11
28.　*,*31,530　*,280,151　Diamond no Ace Vol.46
29.　*,*31,499　*,*31,499　Nisekoi Vol.17 Limited Edition
30.　*,*31,434　*,269,167　Ahiru no Sora Vol.40

31.　*,*30,899　*,244,653　Skip Beat! Vol.36
32.　*,*28,571　*,160,894　Kuu Neru Futari Sumu Futari Vol.5
33.　*,*28,434　*,115,532　Billy Bat Vol.16
34.　*,*26,827　*,*26,827　Hana wa Saku ka Vol.5 Special Edition
35.　*,*24,838　*,*43,708　Dorei-ku: Boku to 23-nin no Dorei Vol.7
36.　*,*24,652　*,657,851　Haikyuu!! Vol.15
37.　*,*24,434　1,119,512　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.4
38.　*,*24,304　1,049,814　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.5
39.　*,*23,800　*,*78,223　Kakukaku Shikajika Vol.5
40.　*,*23,762　*,*62,096　True Love Vol.7

41.　*,*23,532　*,*56,708　THE iDOLM@STER Vol.4
42.　*,*23,015　1,184,862　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.3
43.　*,*21,455　*,240,986　Youkai Watch Vol.6
44.　*,*21,125　*,819,158　Tokyo Ghoul:re Vol.1
45.　*,*20,703　*,852,065　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.10
46.　*,*20,564　*,846,451　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.12
47.　*,*20,438　*,*56,630　New Game! Vol.2
48.　*,*20,399　*,134,476　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Official Character Book: Meibo no Jikan
49.　*,*20,327　*,933,434　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.7
50.　*,*20,312　*,*46,762　Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Vol.6

and hell it's doing damn great in sales without the anime. Now remove the anime of the the other big manga's and let's see how they do

You know what dropping sales means right?

It doesn't have anything to do with where is Bleach ranked. In the past Bleach sold 600k+ copies per volume, know it sell just 300k.

Aizen's returned and Naruto's end boosted sales, it was even worse a couple of months ago.

Plus, Bleach chapters in last 2/3 years are always ranked bottom 5 in ToC, except when it's have Color Page.

Note: Chapters in ToC with Color Page are always placed in the top, because of Color Page.

 

[Mugiwara kun]

I think you're absolutely right. I felt there was no need for Kubo to bring back Aizen and Grimmjow. I felt like he did it to either bring back fans or to appease the remaining fans still taking bleach serious. Ever since Aizen lost to Ichigo, the manga has been on a downward spiral and he's doing things,random things to appease the bleach fans left

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I think you're absolutely right. I felt there was no need for Kubo to bring back Aizen and Grimmjow. I felt like he did it to either bring back fans or to appease the remaining fans still taking bleach serious. Ever since Aizen lost to Ichigo, the manga has been on a downward spiral and he's doing things,random things to appease the bleach fans left

No he brought them back cuz that's what he planned on doing from the beginning it makes things more interesting.

 

[SoulKiller]

The sales have gone up because of Aizen and the end of Naruto.

It's not about Gin. I have been a fan of Bleach for years and years and I can't stand what Kubo has done to it. The story doesn't even make sense anymore, the chapters don't move, the characters have changed for fan service, Ichigo is barely recognisable, he has turned into the Kon version. He forgets characters, his enemy designs are ridiculous in places, fights are over in a blink and usually off panelled, smut has become its brand of humour, he changed the whole tack, it failed and now he is fan servicing trying to fix it, its long winded, a manga is supposed to fit in the panels. It's like it is being written by someone else. Grimmjow should have appeared ages ago for it to make sense. Most readers who have been there for a long time would agree that Bleach has dropped.

The Anime was cancelled, Kubo panicked and tried to make it more serious, that failed and now he is using fan service to try and win back his audience.

I complain because I lament what has happened to a manga that once has perfect balance

again it's you're opinion stop trying making it facts ^^ i do not see that the story became dull. I do not see the enemy designs to be ridiculous and i do not feel that it is written by someone else, and again this current arc is the best arc in bleach by far. He failed? the first invasion is one of the best moments in bleach and many amazing fights so far that are hella entertaining and i personally find the characters to be cool and epic. Hell there are some serious deaths in this arc and there is just soo many epic things going on. Stop trying making your own opinion somehow a reality or facts, because that is not the case lol.

You know what dropping sales means right?

It doesn't have anything to do with where is Bleach ranked. In the past Bleach sold 600k+ copies per volume, know it sell just 300k.

Aizen's returned and Naruto's end boosted sales, it was even worse a couple of months ago.

Plus, Bleach chapters in last 2/3 years are always ranked bottom 5 in ToC, except when it's have Color Page.

Note: Chapters in ToC with Color Page are always placed in the top, because of Color Page.

again anime being canceled affected bleach sales alot and if you say otherwise then you are simply being in denial here. I know that bleach suffered sometime during the fullbring arc and what not but every manga has its bad time in sales. Hell bleach is sure doing great for a 600+ manga running and without anime. If anything kudos for kubo for keeping up ^^

 

[Forbidden Tale]

again anime being canceled affected bleach sales alot and if you say otherwise then you are simply being in denial here. I know that bleach suffered sometime during the fullbring arc and what not but every manga has its bad time in sales. Hell bleach is sure doing great for a 600+ manga running and without anime. If anything kudos for kubo for keeping up ^^

Table of Contest doesn't have anything to do with anime.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

again it's you're opinion stop trying making it facts ^^ i do not see that the story became dull. I do not see the enemy designs to be ridiculous and i do not feel that it is written by someone else, and again this current arc is the best arc in bleach by far. He failed? the first invasion is one of the best moments in bleach and many amazing fights so far that are hella entertaining and i personally find the characters to be cool and epic. Hell there are some serious deaths in this arc and there is just soo many epic things going on. Stop trying making your own opinion somehow a reality or facts, because that is not the case lol.




again anime being canceled affected bleach sales alot and if you say otherwise then you are simply being in denial here. I know that bleach suffered sometime during the fullbring arc and what not but every manga has its bad time in sales. Hell bleach is sure doing great for a 600+ manga running and without anime. If anything kudos for kubo for keeping up ^^

The Anime was cancelled ages and ages and ages ago. Also, my opinions are mirrored in sales figures, ranking and the opinions of the majority of Bleach fans, I'm not alone in my opinions. In fact, no offence and I'm glad you are enjoying it but sadly, it is actually your opinion that is the minority, I wish it wasn't so.

 

[Floydical]

Kubo is a fan himself. So its not really a matter of him creating a fanservice, but rather creating those fanservice-like scenarios on a whim. His manga is full of trolling and what looks like fanservice, but its just how he does it.

 

[Memento Mori]

Not that I care about these Your opinion vs my opinion discussions.Aizen boosted the sales?.But do you people aware that Aizen is featured in the chapter 616 and the Volume 67 doesn't have that chapter?.Also currently each bleach Volume sales at an average of 450-500k per year.That is without anime.Anime indeed effect the sales.At the same time having an anime cancelled doesn't automatically lowers the sales instantly but gradually or it may remain stable if the manga has the same appeal as before.Prime example is FT.It's show is put on hiatus for a year and the sales were the same as they were when it's anime is airing.Ofcourse AoT and Magi can also be said for the same case.

 

[SoulKiller]

The Anime was cancelled ages and ages and ages ago. Also, my opinions are mirrored in sales figures, ranking and the opinions of the majority of Bleach fans, I'm not alone in my opinions. In fact, no offence and I'm glad you are enjoying it but sadly, it is actually your opinion that is the minority, I wish it wasn't so.

lol if the majority of the bleach fandom have the same opinion as you then the manga would of been canceled long time ago xD but whatever makes you sleep at night. And i would despise and hate the bleach fandom as well. But soo far every bleach fan i met love the manga for some exceptions. Anyways this has prolonged enough and i got bored from it so adios!!!!

Table of Contest doesn't have anything to do with anime.

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you keep running around in circles avoiding my main point xD but anyways whatever float your boat bro.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

lol if the majority of the bleach fandom have the same opinion as you then the manga would of been canceled long time ago xD but whatever makes you sleep at night. And i would despise and hate the bleach fandom as well. But soo far every bleach fan i met love the manga for some exceptions. Anyways this has prolonged enough and i got bored from it so adios!!!!

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you keep running around in circles avoiding my main point xD but anyways whatever float your boat bro.

Bleach sales have dropped by half and that had nothing to do with the Anime, the Anime was dropped after the fullbring arc and it was dropped because of lack of interest, that means by the sales statistics as least 300.000 fans agree that the manga lost it's edge. It's not hate, its disappointment, all those fans were likely loyal to Bleach but became disheartened with what Kubo did to it. These were people buying the manga not watching the anime. You are lucky you have encountered so many people that love Bleach because the fans I have encountered are like myself, heartbroken with it.

 

[Floydical]

Bleach sales have dropped by half and that had nothing to do with the Anime, the Anime was dropped after the fullbring arc and it was dropped because of lack of interest, that means by the sales statistics as least 300.000 fans agree that the manga lost it's edge. It's not hate, its disappointment, all those fans were likely loyal to Bleach but became disheartened with what Kubo did to it. These were people buying the manga not watching the anime. You are lucky you have encountered so many people that love Bleach because the fans I have encountered are like myself, heartbroken with it.

I don't really think Bleach lost its luster. I read Bleach because it never stops in intensity, its one big rush and onto another. I feel a Manga like AOT lost its luster specifically because it went from super intense and downright scary to being bogged down with plot and backstory. I still feel Bleach has all the trimmings, but I'm happy as a clam the Anime got cancelled for now.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Not that I care about these Your opinion vs my opinion discussions.Aizen boosted the sales?.But do you people aware that Aizen is featured in the chapter 616 and the Volume 67 doesn't have that chapter?

That's not the point. Sales didn't dropped much right after Aizen's arc, but not to long.

.Also currently each bleach Volume sales at an average of 450-500k per year.

The main problem here is "per year". In the past Bleach Volumes could reach sales of 400-500k copies in first week.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

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you keep running around in circles avoiding my main point xD but anyways whatever float your boat bro.

Hm, I am avoiding your main point?

No man, while I agree that Anime boost sales, it will not boost sales that much, anime was still aired in Fullbringer arc.

And the one who is avoiding:

You know what dropping sales means right?

In the past Bleach sold 600k+ copies per volume, know it sell just 300k.

Aizen's returned and Naruto's end boosted sales, it was even worse a couple of months ago.

Plus, Bleach chapters in last 2/3 years are always ranked bottom 5 in ToC, except when it's have Color Page.

 

[Memento Mori]

That's not the point. Sales didn't dropped much right after Aizen's arc, but not to long.

Which is not the point?.Where I said sales dropped right after the Aizen's arc?.You completely read what I said above?.

At the same time having an anime cancelled doesn't automatically lowers the sales instantly but gradually or it may remain stable if the manga has the same appeal as before.

The main problem here is "per year". In the past Bleach Volumes could reach sales of 400-500k copies in first week.

I know that.

Edit - lol I didn't know I do get get notifications even if I quote myself -_-

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Which is not the point?.Where I said sales dropped right after the Aizen's arc?.You completely read what I said above?.

Rumors already spreads around that Aizen is brought back to manga.

Edit - lol I didn't know I do get get notifications even if I quote myself -_-

Yap, I found that today, when I quoted me in above's post.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Did the anime effect the sales? Yes. Cause the bleach anime was actually good. I liked the fillers

Fanservice? Yes.. HUGE! like somebody mentioned, the biggest fanservice was byakuyua coming back to life. I was MAJORLY upset.
But my brother once said to me when I started watching bleach "Nobody dies in bleach. So beware" Ive taken that quote and lived with it. You literally had people CUT IN HALF YO! and stayed alive. Sorry. Bleach has gone downhill ever since the screentime was on Ichigo

Before that, the revealings of bankais. Rose bankai so sick. Renjis, Rukias.. Kenpachis Shikai. The bad ass sternritter villians. BRO! epic!!! Aizen being released I liked, I wont lie. AWESOME!! Kenpachis Vice CC. AWESOME!!! Soon as they got to the soul palace, shit dropped. Ichibei Vs. Ywach was nice. Then the whole right arm shit is what pushed bleach over to nothing. Unohara not doing shit, Mayrui weak af. Meh. Alot. Bleach, in order to keep me. Needs to bring out more bankais. And most of all, get rid of Ichigo. Im so ****ing TIRED of that SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEE MOVE!!! OMG!

 

[chopstickchakra]

Do you think Bleach has become all about fan service in the war arc? I'm not just talking about the smut Kubo has added but the story in general, it feels like everything is geared towards something the fans want, almost like its fan fiction, especially the chapters over the last months.

It feels like Bleach was

A great manga, geared at keeping the fans happy but maintaining its story and action
Then, A kill fest with awful choices the fans hated
To - An almost fan fiction mismatch of events

It feels as though Kubo has no idea what he is doing anymore, everything feels random.

Fan Service is one of the dumbest terms I've heard, everything a creator does is to service fans.